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Post by alon on Aug 30, 2016 11:33:30 GMT -8
Yeah, great advice, thanks! I am finding that most christians seems to focus more on the NT and come up with all sorts of arguments why Mathew 5 allows them to remarry. On a personal note, did you ever consider just having a companion with no sex involved since you or I being divorced are not supposed to remarry? Would that be a sin? For myself that option so far never came up, would I? Only if I know for sure me and the lady will only be companions that there will never be more attracting us to each other. Then again we have to be example to the world, and living with a woman might give the wrong impression to our brothers and sisters out there and be a stumbling block to them to think it is ok to live together with a partner. So yeah it is a tough one but in the end I do have many lady friends I can ask to accompany my if need be, but at the end of the day each one goes home to their own home. Not only is what kepha said true, but you would be placing both yourself and her in a position where temptation may be too much. Not a good idea. Judaism more than Christianity tends to separate the sexes. Halacha in Synagogue Chavurat HaMashiach (parent synagogue for this forum) is that you don't even shake hands with another man's wife. So I am pretty sure your OJ Rabbi would tell you this is a bad idea also.
Dan C
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Post by alon on Aug 30, 2016 11:41:35 GMT -8
So once again I say that mystic should seek out a competent Rabbi to help him with this problem. Dan C "Competent Rabbi" Dan, that is one problem, also finding one who is MJ is another.
It's unreal you can't find a good Rabbi in NYC anywhere. But if this is the case, ask your OJ Rabbi and get his take on it. He may even be able to shed some light on what Yeshua was saying. Regardless, he'll know  and many of the other things I mentioned. And Yeshua never spoke against , so he may be able to help. And keep looking. There has to be a good MJ Rabbi somewhere in the 5 Boroughs. If not you can move to Eastern Washington. We need good computer techs here. Do you know anything about MAC's?
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Post by mystic on Aug 30, 2016 15:53:37 GMT -8
There is a difference between sin (we all fall short of the ) and living in sin. Mystic I think this is the shortest answer I ever gave you so not to short change you aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Yes kepha, I know I can be a frustrating individual  but thanks for clearing up the difference for me! Ok guys, this should be my final question on this topic, one christian told me today that when we became born again and accepted Jesus as our savior that we were made clean so whatever sins we had committed before then would be forgiven so we would be starting with a clean slate, would that be accurate? If the answer to that question is yes then that tells me that a man or woman who had gotten divorced prior to accepting Jesus, would be clear to remarry since he/she would be starting with a clean slate, is that correct or not please? |
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Post by alon on Aug 30, 2016 16:05:22 GMT -8
Oh when-when-when will he ever learn not to talk with Christians about spiritual things ...   They just keep you running back and forth like 
When you accept Yeshua, your sins are forgiven. However the "slate" is not quite clean. You still may have to deal with the consequences of past sins. For example, if you were convicted of a crime and are doing prison time, don't expect any earthquakes to open your cell door. And if you had a previous marriage, there may be consequences involved there as well.
Find a Rabbi, not a Christian! 
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Post by mystic on Aug 30, 2016 17:04:50 GMT -8
How do I find that elusive Rabbi?
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Post by alon on Aug 30, 2016 17:44:43 GMT -8
How do I find that elusive Rabbi?
I'd start with an internet search for Messianic Synagogues. Rule out any that have red flags, like women rabbi's or that don't believe in the eternal deity of Yeshua. Any who are dispensationalists (like the guy you posted earlier) should be ruled out as well. Don't be too picky about them being born Jewish. But he should be knowledgeable about things Jewish, and well read. I don't know how easy it is for you to travel, so I can't say how far to look. But even if you have to go outside NYC to find one they may broadcast their teachings, and you might go periodically to meet with them and fellowship.Main thing is to look, and check them ut thoroughly.
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Post by kepha on Aug 31, 2016 2:21:39 GMT -8
Yes kepha, I know I can be a frustrating individual but thanks for clearing up the difference for me! Read more: theloveofgod.proboards.com/thread/3986/scriptures-which-apply-marital-relation#ixzz4Iu5VLgOsNo Brother not at all you help me actually, to try and tell you also makes us stronger. Like I said you been given a Huge present by Avinu out of all the people on this earth and there are going to be time when you ask "why me?". That will be actually your next step  it is funny we all go through the same emotions in the beginning, so never think of your self as a burden, we only get frustated some times because we can see the error you might be heading towards and we can not get the right information across in time for you. So it is more out of love for you than it is because you ask. |
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but thanks for clearing up the difference for me! Ok guys, this should be my final question on this topic, one christian told me today that when we became born again and accepted Jesus as our savior that we were made clean so whatever sins we had committed before then would be forgiven so we would be starting with a clean slate, would that be accurate? If the answer to that question is yes then that tells me that a man or woman who had gotten divorced prior to accepting Jesus, would be clear to remarry since he/she would be starting with a clean slate, is that correct or not please?
They just keep you running back and forth like 
it is funny we all go through the same emotions in the beginning, so never think of your self as a burden, we only get frustated some times because we can see the error you might be heading towards and we can not get the right information across in time for you. So it is more out of love for you than it is because you ask.
