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Post by jimmie on Mar 7, 2014 8:14:15 GMT -8
Corn:
As is the case with most words "corn" has many meanings. It could be Maize the new world plant that "corn on the cob" comes from. Or it could be any of several cereal plants producing edible seeds such as wheat, rye, oats, or barley in which case "corn" is interchangeable with "grain". It could be something preserved and season with granulated salt or a salt brine as in "corned beef". Or maybe a growth on your foot. The meaning comes from the context and settings. "Corn" did not take on the meaning of Maize until it was introduce from the New World. Thus "corn" in the Old World means grain. In the Bible "corn" means "grain" not "Maize".
Luke 6:1 And it came to pass on the second sabbath after the first, that he went through the corn fields; and his disciples plucked the ears of corn, and did eat, rubbing them in their hands.
You rub wheat, rye, oats, and barley in your hand to remove the husk from each grain. This will not work on ears of corn Maize.
The KJV translators were not as ignorant as we might think.
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Post by jimmie on Apr 13, 2011 13:57:23 GMT -8
Ex 23:24 Thou shalt not bow down to their gods, nor serve them, nor do after their works: but thou shalt utterly overthrow them, and quite break down their images. 25 And ye shall serve the LORD your God, and he shall bless thy bread, and thy water; and I will take sickness away from the midst of thee. 26 There shall nothing cast their young, nor be barren, in thy land: the number of thy days I will fulfil. ![]() [/img] The above emblem was a link on the web page that contained the article. The emblem is the staff of the pagan god - Mercury with a Star of David attached to the top. A fitting description of what I found in the article, a mixture of pagan philosophies with the Laws of God. Below are a few of the items that I take issue with. From the Article: The fact that the  requires a monetary payment for causing a miscarriage is interpreted by some Rabbis to indicate that abortion is not a capital crime4 and by others as merely indicating that one is not executed for performing an abortion, even though it is a type of murder.5 Answer: Ex 21:22 If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. 23 And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life, 24 Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, Sure sound like the life of the one that cause the woman’s fruit to depart is required if the baby dies. From the Article: As a general rule, abortion in Judaism is permitted only if there is a direct threat to the life of the mother by carrying the fetus to term or through the act of childbirth. In such a circumstance, the baby is considered tantamount to a rodef, a pursuer6 after the mother with the intent to kill her. Answer: Under this rule, Rachel would have been justified had she aborted Benjamin. From the Article: It is important to point out that the reason that the life of the fetus is subordinate to the mother is because the fetus is the cause of the mother's life-threatening condition, whether directly (e.g. due to toxemia, placenta previa, or breach position) or indirectly (e.g. exacerbation of underlying diabetes, kidney disease, or hypertension).8 Answer: Under this rule it should be permissible to terminate the mother when her body produces anti-bodies that will cause Hemolytic disease of the newborn resulting many times in its death. |
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Post by jimmie on Jan 3, 2011 10:43:35 GMT -8
CHAPTER XXIV.
1. REGULATIONS CONCERNING A MAN WHO IS OVERTAKEN BY DUSK ON THE EVE OF SABBATH WHILE TRAVELLING, AND CONCERNING FEEDING OF CATTLE.
MISHNA: One who (on the eve of Sabbath) is overtaken by the dusk on the road must give his purse to a Gentile (while it is yet day). If there is no Gentile with him, he must put it on the ass. As soon as he arrives at the outmost court (dwelling of the first town or village he reaches), he must take off all such things as may be handled on the Sabbath; and as for the things which must not be handled he must loosen the cords, so that they fall off themselves.
Why does the Talmud (oral law) allow the breaking of the sabbath?
Deut 5:14 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, nor thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thine ox, nor thine ass, nor any of thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates; that thy manservant and thy maidservant may rest as well as thou.
The Gentile nor the ass should bare the burden if the man himself can’t.
Luke 11:46 And he said, Woe unto you also, ye lawyers! for ye lade men with burdens grievous to be borne, and ye yourselves touch not the burdens with one of your fingers.
Now concerning your insistence that the oral law has some valid points. So does my science book but I will not elevate it to God’s word.
Every thing that I know about the oral law is an attempt to circumnavigate or adds to the Law of God. Like selling your land to a gentile and renting it back on the Sabbath year of rest, selling your yeast factory to a gentile during Passover. Non-believers should not be necessary for believers to be righteous. Not eating milk and meat at the same meal when you are only told not to soak a kid in its’ mothers milk.
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Post by jimmie on Nov 23, 2010 10:58:58 GMT -8
thats a very nice post. the question i now ask myself is whether they wanted to be like samson meaning to be particularly set apart their whole life which requires you to not drink alcohol for example. To clarify: Did they intend to be nazarites??quote] II Kings 10:15 And when he was departed thence, he lighted on Jehonadab the son of Rechab coming to meet him: and he saluted him, and said to him, Is thine heart right, as my heart is with thy heart? And Jehonadab answered, It is. If it be, give me thine hand. And he gave him his hand; and he took him up to him into the chariot. 16 And he said, Come with me, and see my zeal for the LORD. So they made him ride in his chariot. 17 And when he came to Samaria, he slew all that remained unto Ahab in Samaria, till he had destroyed him, according to the saying of the LORD, which he spake to Elijah. 18 And Jehu gathered all the people together, and said unto them, Ahab served Baal a little; but Jehu shall serve him much. 19 Now therefore call unto me all the prophets of Baal, all his servants, and all his priests; let none be wanting: for I have a great sacrifice to do to Baal; whosoever shall be wanting, he shall not live. But Jehu did it in subtlety, to the intent that he might destroy the worshippers of Baal. 20 And Jehu said, Proclaim a solemn assembly for Baal. And they proclaimed it. 21 And Jehu sent through all Israel: and all the worshippers of Baal came, so that there was not a man left that came not. And they came into the house of Baal; and the house of Baal was full from one end to another. 22 And he said unto him that was over the vestry, Bring forth vestments for all the worshippers of Baal. And he brought them forth vestments. 23 And Jehu went, and Jehonadab the son of Rechab, into the house of Baal, and said unto the worshippers of Baal, Search, and look that there be here with you none of the servants of the LORD, but the worshippers of Baal only. 24 And when they went in to offer sacrifices and burnt offerings, Jehu appointed fourscore men without, and said, If any of the men whom I have brought into your hands escape, he that letteth him go, his life shall be for the life of him. 25 And it came to pass, as soon as he had made an end of offering the burnt offering, that Jehu said to the guard and to the captains, Go in, and slay them; let none come forth. And they smote them with the edge of the sword; and the guard and the captains cast them out, and went to the city of the house of Baal. 26 And they brought forth the images out of the house of Baal, and burned them. 27 And they brake down the image of Baal, and brake down the house of Baal, and made it a draught house unto this day. 28 Thus Jehu destroyed Baal out of Israel. 29 Howbeit from the sins of Jeroboam the son of Nebat, who made Israel to sin, Jehu departed not from after them, to wit, the golden calves that were in Bethel, and that were in Dan. 30 And the LORD said unto Jehu, Because thou hast done well in executing that which is right in mine eyes, and hast done unto the house of Ahab according to all that was in mine heart, thy children of the fourth generation shall sit on the throne of Israel. 31 But Jehu took no heed to walk in the law of the LORD God of Israel with all his heart: for he departed not from the sins of Jeroboam, which made Israel to sin. 32 In those days the LORD began to cut Israel short: and Hazael smote them in all the coasts of Israel; It appears that Jehonadab’s purpose for the Recabite Traditions may have been two fold. The no houses, field or seed portion gave them the needed mobility to escape areas begin taken over by Hazael as seen in vs 32 above and eventually to escape to Jerusalem as seen in the passage from Jeremiah. The no wine portion would have made it particularly hard for the Recabites to participate in the worship at the two golden calves that Jehu continued to cleave to after Jehonadab helped him become King. In short, as society around Jehonadab was falling apart, he lead his family into a way of life similar to that of Israel in the wilderness. Deut. 29:6 “Ye have not eaten bread, neither have ye drunk wine or strong drink: that ye might know that I am the LORD your God.” It doesn’t appear that the Recabites took on the full requirements of the Nazarite vow. |
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Tithe
Aug 19, 2010 11:58:45 GMT -8
Post by jimmie on Aug 19, 2010 11:58:45 GMT -8
I too have been wondering about the tithe. When I was in the state church (baptist church licensed by the state) which claimed to replace the priesthood and thus due the tithe, I gave 10% of my income faithfully. But now not being attached to a local assembly, I have decided to use my tithe for attending feast celebrations and helping others who are not as financially blessed as I am to attend feasts. So in a manner I eat the tithe and what I can’t eat I give to others to eat. This approach is based upon the following scriptures.
Deut. 12:17 Thou mayest not eat within thy gates the tithe of thy corn, or of thy wine, or of thy oil, or the firstlings of thy herds or of thy flock, nor any of thy vows which thou vowest, nor thy freewill offerings, or heave offering of thine hand:
18 But thou must eat them before the LORD thy God in the place which the LORD thy God shall choose, thou, and thy son, and thy daughter, and thy manservant, and thy maidservant, and the Levite that is within thy gates: and thou shalt rejoice before the LORD thy God in all that thou puttest thine hands unto.
19 Take heed to thyself that thou forsake not the Levite as long as thou livest upon the earth.
20 When the LORD thy God shall enlarge thy border, as he hath promised thee, and thou shalt say, I will eat flesh, because thy soul longeth to eat flesh; thou mayest eat flesh, whatsoever thy soul lusteth after.
21 If the place which the LORD thy God hath chosen to put his name there be too far from thee, then thou shalt kill of thy herd and of thy flock, which the LORD hath given thee, as I have commanded thee, and thou shalt eat in thy gates whatsoever thy soul lusteth after.22 Even as the roebuck and the hart is eaten, so thou shalt eat them: the unclean and the clean shall eat of them alike.
23 Only be sure that thou eat not the blood: for the blood is the life; and thou mayest not eat the life with the flesh.
24 Thou shalt not eat it; thou shalt pour it upon the earth as water.
25 Thou shalt not eat it; that it may go well with thee, and with thy children after thee, when thou shalt do that which is right in the sight of the LORD.
26 Only thy holy things which thou hast, and thy vows, thou shalt take, and go unto the place which the LORD shall choose.
27 And thou shalt offer thy burnt offerings, the flesh and the blood, upon the altar of the LORD thy God: and the blood of thy sacrifices shall be poured out upon the altar of the LORD thy God, and thou shalt eat the flesh.
Deut. 14:22 Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year.
23 And thou shalt eat before the LORD thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the LORD thy God always.
24 And if the way be too long for thee, so that thou art not able to carry it; or if the place be too far from thee, which the LORD thy God shall choose to set his name there, when the LORD thy God hath blessed thee:
25 Then shalt thou turn it into money, and bind up the money in thine hand, and shalt go unto the place which the LORD thy God shall choose:
26 And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the LORD thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household,
Deut:26:12 When thou hast made an end of tithing all the tithes of thine increase the third year, which is the year of tithing, and hast given it unto the Levite, the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow, that they may eat within thy gates, and be filled;
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Post by jimmie on Aug 10, 2010 13:55:05 GMT -8
I am unfamiliar with the missionary/anti-missionary conflict. So I searched for anti-missionary site and the opening statement of the first web sight was: We Jews refer to them as "missionaries." We Jews respect Christians who maintain the doctrines of their belief, but we do not accept anyone's "right" to proselytize. That struck me as being vary odd. How can the Jewish nation bless all nations if there isn’t some form of Proselytizing. Gen 18:18 Seeing that Abraham shall surely become a great and mighty nation, and all the nations of the earth shall be blessed in him? One of the articles lists five ways that Jesus (Yeshua) broke the law ( ). The “funny” thing was that with one exception, I have heard entire sermons were the preacher makes the same claims of Jesus (Yeshua) intentionally breaking the law to show that it is irrelevant to the New Covenant. So I guess I understand how Jews get the idea that Jesus (Yeshua) was not the Messiah. I would like to look at one example in detail here. Did the disciples break the Law ( ) when they eat corn on the sabbath? Luke 6:1 And it came to pass on the second sabbath after the first, that he went through the corn fields; and his disciples plucked the ears of corn, and did eat, rubbing them in their hands. 2 And certain of the Pharisees said unto them, Why do ye that which is not lawful to do on the sabbath days? 3 And Jesus answering them said, Have ye not read so much as this, what David did, when himself was an hungered, and they which were with him; 4 How he went into the house of God, and did take and eat the showbread, and gave also to them that were with him; which it is not lawful to eat but for the priests alone? 5 And he said unto them, That the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath. In the sermon to which I spoke of, the preacher said that the disciples were indeed breaking the Sabbath law that forbid work. They reaped, (plucked), thrashed (rubbing in hands), and they ground (chewed) the grain. I guess if you take this line of thinking to its’ conclusion they also stole. It wasn’t their standing corn. However the law expressly gives the right to eat of his neighbor’s fields: Deut 23:25 When thou comest into the standing corn of thy neighbour, then thou mayest pluck the ears with thine hand; but thou shalt not move a sickle unto thy neighbour's standing corn. It is plain from the above scripture that the disciples in no way broke the Law ( ) when they ate. This law of mercy is not voided on the sabbath. Jesus chose the example of David eating the show bread to highlight what the Pharisees lacked, which is the waiter maters of the law ( ). Matt. 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. |
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Post by jimmie on Jun 23, 2010 14:05:15 GMT -8
tonga,
You are Jewish right? I think that the apparition are very similar to what happened to Saul:
I Sam 16:23 And it came to pass, when the evil spirit from God was upon Saul, that David took an harp, and played with his hand: so Saul was refreshed, and was well, and the evil spirit departed from him.
God gave leave to the evil spirit to come upon Saul because of his disposition of not serving God. I think God gives leave to evils spirits to appear to catholics because of their disposition of wanting to venerate Mary instead of God. The same could be said about UFO’s, aliens, bigfoot etc. If you ever run across a book titled “UFO’s Mission Impossible” it makes for good reading. It claims that the clinical pathology of subjects that claim to have been abducted by aliens is the same as those claiming demon possession.
Eastern orthodox are also big into apparitions. Lutheran and Episcopalian not so much but some.
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Post by jimmie on Jun 17, 2010 10:13:08 GMT -8
Liz,
With out seeing fruits i think it would be unwise to pronounace someone saved.
ITim 5:22 Lay hands suddenly on no man, neither be partaker of other men's sins: keep thyself pure.
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Post by jimmie on Apr 30, 2010 9:12:39 GMT -8
You said you have more than enough on your hands trying to communicate your own ideas, without trying to learn Greek and Hebrew in addition. David, This is what I meant about not being able to get my concern’s/ideas across. What my words said to you is not even in the ball park of what I was trying to communicate. Which has happened several times on this thread. The reason I quote scripture is because it does a better job of expressing what is in my heart, things that I can’t get into words. At least not words that can be understood by others. If I may draw upon scripture for an analogy of how I feel. I Sam: 17:39 And David girded his sword upon his armour, and he assayed to go; for he had not proved it. And David said unto Saul, I cannot go with these; for I have not proved them. And David put them off him. With my KJV, I am somewhat useful. When strapped with Greek, Aromatic, and Hebrew, I am totally useless. It took me two hours last night to prove to myself that the chiastic in Gen. 4 in the KJV existed in the Hebrew text. Man I sure wouldn’t want to try to use Hebrew to convince someone of something. It just doesn’t fit. But, if the “armour” fits you, by all means use it. Maybe someday, I will be able to “prove” it myself. Jimmie |
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Post by jimmie on Apr 26, 2010 14:12:38 GMT -8
Nuance: A slight degree of difference in meaning
Idiom: A speech form or expression of a given language that is peculiar to itself grammatically or that cannot be understood from the individual meanings of it element.
An example of an English Idiom is “one who flew over the coco’s nest” for idiot. Now Idiom and Idiot have a common root that means private. However the idea of a private idiom can be preached form a roof top, whereas the thoughts of an idiot can’t be conveyed. Maybe I am handicapped by being unilingual, but to me a thought that can not be translated into another language is idiotic. Or, indeed the “idiom/thought” is elevated to being God which scriptures says we can’t understand.
I seldom try to imply or assume anything about some one else. I try to explain how their words are coming across to me. If something can’t be translated, it sounds private to me. The only thing I may have assumed about Mr. Nogalski is that he would be quite capable of speaking well over my intellect. I know myself much better than either you or Mr. Nogalski. I want you both to know were I’m coming from and be prepared to meet me on my ground and convince me were I am wrong. I am the one with the push here dummy degree. I can’t, at this time, be impressed with someone throwing around Hebrew words unless they are followed by English translations.
David said:
You have to understand, the more I learn about languages the more preposterous translation becomes to me.
I guess, I can’t understand what you say that I must. When I see that, it looks like Gnosticism.
II Tim 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
Now, since we are both missing each others nuances and idioms, I would like to change my approach somewhat, so that my concerns are better expounded. I think. In the simplest English terms that I can muster:
Is Hebrew the Comforter?
John14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Is Hebrew the source of Christ’s knowledge/power?
Mark 6:2 And when the sabbath day was come, he began to teach in the synagogue: and many hearing him were astonished, saying, From whence hath this man these things? and what wisdom is this which is given unto him, that even such mighty works are wrought by his hands?
Must I speak Hebrew in order for someone to know that I have been with Jesus?
Act 4:13 Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were unlearned and ignorant men, they marvelled; and they took knowledge of them, that they had been with Jesus.
Will they listen if I speak Hebrew?
Acts 22:2 (And when they heard that he spake in the Hebrew tongue to them, they kept the more silence: and he saith,)
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21 And he said unto me, Depart: for I will send thee far hence unto the Gentiles.
22 And they gave him audience unto this word, and then lifted up their voices, and said, Away with such a fellow from the earth: for it is not fit that he should live.
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Post by jimmie on Apr 26, 2010 9:07:11 GMT -8
David, Thanks for your time in discussing this subject with me. From the way you use the term “Idiom”, it makes it sound to me that II Peter 1:20 “Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.” is a false statement. I’m I seeing yet not seeing what you are trying to tell me? There is a principle that the whole is greater than the sum of the parts. When you tell me that a thought exists in Hebrew, that can’t be conveyed into another language, that is when I have a problem. The translator may have to invent a new word in the target language, but the whole of the thought can be translated. I think the King of Babylon got the full meaning from Daniel about the hand writing on the wall. There was no need for Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah to say, Daniel a better or more accurate translation would have been thus and thus. Again, I am not opposed to learning Hebrew. As I hang around this site, I am sure to pick up some Anglicanized Hebrew, but I don’t expect it to make me more legitimate in the eyes of God. While I would welcome any comments that Mr. James D. Nogalski may have on this subject, I ask you to consider David’s words: Ps 119:99 I have more understanding than all my teachers: for thy testimonies are my meditation. In order to understand those strong pastoral idioms in the bible, would some time spent in a pasture be valuable? The pasture is where I got my PHD (push here dummy) from. I may not be able to understand Mr. Nogalski. So ask him to keep it simple. I guess what I am trying to say is one can know the Hebrew language and still miss the “pastoral idioms”. The Bible is replete with those who spoke Hebrew but missed the point anyway. Webster did die after Gesenius but he was born 26 years earlier. Thus not as far removed historically as Gesenius. Why do you trust Gesenius more? If you read German and Gesenius helps you understand the God of Israel then Hallelujah. (Sorry about showing off 50% my knowledge of Hebrew in one word). I don't believe that Hebrew was chosen because it was holy. I believe that it is holy because it was chosen. I don't believe Israel is chosen because she is holy, I believe Israel is holy because it is chosen. Amen! (Rats, I done used up my entire repertoire of Hebrew words in one post.) Yes what God chooses he makes Holy. |
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Post by jimmie on Apr 23, 2010 13:42:13 GMT -8
David, Sign language interpreters get better that 50% of the information across to their audiences. I would think a translator would be able to approach 100% unless he had a motive to do otherwise. If 50% of the information is lost in translation, what good would it do a nation to spend millions of dollars to steal top secret documents from other countries? Only knowing one language may place me at a disadvantage but, I have never learned more from Strong’s work than I have Webster’s work when studying the Bible. Act 2:6 Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language. 7 And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans? 8 And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born? It seems pretty plain that every one heard what was said in their own language of which15 are listed. The only Jew that I know pass away a few years ago. He could chat several prayers and songs in Hebrew, but he had no more idea what he said than I did. Then, on the other hand, I meat a Christian who uses so much Hebrew when he speaks, I can’t follow what he is trying to say. And he wonders way English speaking people don’t respond to him when he witnesses to them. They can’t because they don’t understand what he is saying. I wonder how effective Paul would have been if he couldn’t speak Greek. I think it vital that every one be able to hear/understand the word of God in his own tongue. I don’t want anyone to think that I am opposed to learning Hebrew. I do however think my time would be better spent in other endeavors than to learn a language that I will most likely never get to speak to someone who uses it as his native tongue. The same God who created language chose to reveal Himself to our ancestors in Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek. All things proceed from Him, but some things are sacred, and others are ordinary." This is heart of the subject for me. Is scripture sacred because of the language that they were revealed to us in? Did God choose Hebrew to reveal Himself to us because it had some special attribute that others don’t? Did God choose Israel because they had some special attribute that other nations don’t? |
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Post by jimmie on Apr 22, 2010 7:07:37 GMT -8
I noticed that you use two different bible translations to show your “contradiction”. I would be interested to see if either are in harmony with its’ self as is the KJV.
I Kings 6:11 And the word of the LORD came to Solomon, saying,
12 Concerning this house which thou art in building, if thou wilt walk in my statutes, and execute my judgments, and keep all my commandments to walk in them; then will I perform my word with thee, which I spake unto David thy father:
13 And I will dwell among the children of Israel, and will not forsake my people Israel.
14 So Solomon built the house, and finished it.
Acts 7:46 Who found favour before God, and desired to find a tabernacle for the God of Jacob.
47 But Solomon built him an house.
48 Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet,
49 Heaven is my throne, and earth is my footstool: what house will ye build me? saith the Lord: or what is the place of my rest?
50 Hath not my hand made all these things?
Dwell: to live as a resident. God dose not live in temples made by hands.
Dwell: to fasten one’s attention upon. God will pay attention to those who keep his laws.
I see no contradiction in these passages.
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Post by jimmie on Apr 14, 2010 13:59:18 GMT -8
This thread brings back some old memories of when I attended State Churches. When I was with the Baptist who, believe in security of the believer, I would bring up scriptures that seem to indicate that salvation can be lost. When with those who believe you can loose your salvation, I would bring up scriptures that seem to indicate that salvation can’t be lost. In the end, I discovered that both positions have some truth and falsehood in them.
My current understanding of this issue is that servants are not secure in their salvation as seen in the parable of the unmerciful servant who had received forgiveness of his debt but was then cast out because he didn’t have mercy on his fellow servant. Or in the parable of the talents in which the last servant loses his talent. These would be those who have tasted the good word but then fall away sealing their fate of being cast out.
Sons on the other hand are secure in their salvation being sealed and holding the earnest of the spirit in our hearts. Jesus taught no parable in which a son is cast out. A son may stray but Jesus is faithful and just to forgive and cleanse us.
Can one move from servant to son?
Prov. 29:21 He that delicately bringeth up his servant from a child shall have him become his son at the length.
John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
If you have received Jesus, you have been given the power to become the son of God and thus be secure in your salvation which he perfected. The seed that falls on good ground is never in danger of being rooted up even though tares are sown among them.
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Post by jimmie on Apr 13, 2010 14:27:14 GMT -8
All that God created was good, we say; but it is worth noting that God didn’t say that all He created was good. When God created the firmament, separating the waters below from the waters above (Genesis 1:6-8), He didn’t say that it was good. He sort of skipped that one. But then, He knew what that water was for: in six short chapters He would wash the sins of the world way with the great flood. And when created mankind (Genesis 1:26-27), He did not say that it was good. He knew the pain that He, Himself must endure because of their creation; yet He knew that all of it: the totality of the plan and order of this creation was indeed very good. I don’t think that I can agree with the beginning of this thread. It appears as though God is being blamed for allowing sin to exist by leaving room for it during creation. This is not much different than when Adam said “The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.” Adam blamed God for giving him the woman who caused him to eat of the tree. In this thread God is “blamed” for not totally removing darkness/sin during creation. If the night is sin then how could Paul say in Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:. Sin did on have room on earth before Adam fell. It entered or gained a foot hold when Adam disobeyed God. If I let my three year old hold a baby chick after warning him not to squeeze it, because it would heart the chick, can you blame me for the child crying, when I take the chick away from him for squeezing it? My actions are predicated upon what the child does. He may do as he pleases, but if he displeases me then he suffers the consequence of having the chick taken away, which was my predetermined action before handing him the chick. One of the most common agnostic questions we may receive is, “If God created everything and everything that God creates is good, then why is there evil?” Jesus answered many questions with a question of his own. My question of the agnostic that would pose the above question is: “How can you classify any thing as being evil, when every thing exists by chance? How can rape or murder be evil, when the murderer or rapist gains by their actions?” I think you have answered the Agnostic according to his folly. And have become like him because you too appear to blame God for the evil in the world. |
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requires a monetary payment for causing a miscarriage is interpreted by some Rabbis to indicate that abortion is not a capital crime4 and by others as merely indicating that one is not executed for performing an abortion, even though it is a type of murder.5 
