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Post by jimmie on Aug 25, 2014 7:23:38 GMT -8
(1 Sam 20:5 KJV) And David said unto Jonathan, Behold, to morrow is the new moon, and I should not fail to sit with the king at meat: but let me go, that I may hide myself in the field unto the third day at even.
(1 Sam 20:18 KJV) Then Jonathan said to David, To morrow is the new moon: and thou shalt be missed, because thy seat will be empty.
(1 Sam 20:24 KJV) So David hid himself in the field: and when the new moon was come, the king sat him down to eat meat.
It appears as though David and Jonathan could determine when the new moon was going to be with out seeing it.
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Post by jimmie on Aug 25, 2014 7:14:48 GMT -8
The apostle Paul was so enrapture by the scandalous grace of God that he came dangerously close to cussing: “I have suffered the loss of all things and count them as skubala, in order that I may gain Christ” (Philippians 3:8).Moriah Ruth (Phil 3:8 KJV) Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ, 4657. skubalon, skoo'-bal-on; neut. of a presumed der. of G1519 and G2965 and G906; what is thrown to the dogs, i.e. refuse (ordure):--dung. I once met a person who claimed that Paul mint bull___ by the term dung. And he used the term profusely. He claimed he was being blunt like Paul. However he came across very arrogant. I could not stand to be around the person. |
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Post by jimmie on Aug 22, 2014 7:25:53 GMT -8
You guys throw rocks at me if you think I am way off, the Kingdom of God ( which should read YHWH) is the entire Creation, heaven and earth. The Kingdom of Heaven is yet to come, when sin is done away. The Kingdom of God and Kingdom of Heaven are referring to the same . The phrase “kingdom of God” occurs 68 times in 10 different New Testament books, while “kingdom of heaven” occurs, only in the Gospel of Matthew, 32 times. Christ uses “kingdom of heaven” and “kingdom of God” interchangeably. Matt 19:23 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. 24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. Mark and Luke used “kingdom of God” where Matthew used “kingdom of heaven” frequently in parallel accounts of the same parable Compare Matthew 11:11-12 with Luke 7:28; Matthew 13:11with Mark 4:11 and Luke 8:10; Matthew 13:24 with Mark 4:26; Matthew 13:31 with Mark 4:30 and Luke 13:18; Matthew 13:33 with Luke 13:20; Matthew 18:3 with Mark 10:14 and Luke 18:16; and Matthew 22:2 with Luke 13:29. In each instance, Matthew used the phrase “kingdom of heaven” while Mark and Luke use “kingdom of God.” |
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Post by jimmie on Aug 22, 2014 5:48:49 GMT -8
Jimmie, I agree that we should be striving to be without sin. I will agree that theoretically we could live without sin. Although, I believe the only One to live a lifetime without sin is Yeshua. I sin because I choose to sin not because of YHWH's law or commandments or an inheritance. My sins are my sins...I'm guilty and there is a penalty for my sins but I can be redeemed if I so chose. There is that free will again! We agree on the basics but I don't think I can experience the Kingdom of Heaven in my "fallen" state. Yes we agree on the basics but I don't think anyone can escape the fallen state without experiencing the Kingdom of Heaven. P.S. Anyone with a NT should be able to define sin for it give the best definition that I have found: (1 John 3:4 KJV) Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. Also: (1 John 3:8 KJV) He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. |
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Post by jimmie on Aug 22, 2014 5:26:48 GMT -8
is a pet pig any more disgusting than a pet dog, cat, rabbit, or horse?
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Post by jimmie on Aug 21, 2014 10:06:26 GMT -8
also, what does he offer to prove that Paul disobeyed the law.
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Post by jimmie on Aug 21, 2014 10:01:35 GMT -8
The point I am trying to make is that the voice is only part of singing. By definition singing includes musical instruments.
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Post by jimmie on Aug 21, 2014 8:54:13 GMT -8
77finch,
I know that the Greek words translated "blameless" are different from the words used to describe Jesus being without sin. I also know that the word for sin used is the same as in the following.
(John 5:14 KJV) Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.
(John 8:11 KJV) She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
I believe that Christ’s command to “sin no more” can be followed. The woman could live the remainder of her life without committing adultery. However if she didn’t, it is not the command’s fault. It would be her fault. She would be without excuse. Now what I was taught is that it is an inescapable fact that I am going to sin. I can’t live a sinless life. If that is the truth, then I do have an excuse for my sin. Now what I believe is that, if I sin, I am without excuse. I can’t blame my sin on God’s law being impossible for humans to obey. However, if I sin, I have an advocate with the Father.
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Post by jimmie on Aug 21, 2014 5:12:00 GMT -8
 No, don't do that, just take my and Questers' word for it!) Dan C Okay. |
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Post by jimmie on Aug 21, 2014 5:08:16 GMT -8
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Post by jimmie on Aug 20, 2014 9:05:28 GMT -8
alon,
(Mat 11:12 KJV) And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.
How can something not here suffer violence and be taken by force?
(Mat 12:28 KJV) But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you.
Christ cast out demons, so I conclude that the kingdom of God is here.
(Mat 13:41 KJV) The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
How can those which do iniquity be removed form his kingdom if it not here?
(Mat 16:19 KJV) And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
(Mat 21:43 KJV) Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
How can it be taken form one and given another if it is not here?
(Mat 23:13 KJV) But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
It looks as though there are people entering the kingdom in Jesus’ day but were prevented by the Pharisees.
(Luke 11:20 KJV) But if I with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon you.
(Luke 16:16 KJV) The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.
Luke 17:20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
(Col 1:13 KJV) Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
(Rev 1:9 KJV) I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.
All of the above scriptures show that the Kingdom of God/Heaven is here NOW. Your or I could quote as many scriptures that talk about the coming of the Kingdom in the future. But that can not prove that the Kingdom is not here NOW. And the Kingdom being here NOW does not prove that the Kingdom is not coming in the future. Both are true and accurate statements. The Kingdom is in some today and at a future date it will be in everyone.
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Post by jimmie on Aug 19, 2014 14:05:09 GMT -8
alon, semantics is Greek for sign study. So the determination of what the signs or words mean is a good thing. The parents of John the Baptist, Zacharias and Elisabeth, were found blameless prior to the shedding of the Messiah Jesus’ blood. Can we not exist in the Kingdom now prior to it’s arrival as Zacharias and Elisabeth existed in a state of blamelessness prior to the shedding of Jesus’ blood?
Mark 12:34 KJV) And when Jesus saw that he answered discreetly, he said unto him, Thou art not far from the kingdom of God. And no man after that durst ask him any question.
77finch, thank you for your kind words. My goal is ever to get people into God’s word.
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Post by jimmie on Aug 18, 2014 14:10:04 GMT -8
Does this idea of "Kingdom now" teach that we can live without sinning? It seems that must be because we could not be in YHWH's presence with any sin in us? If the idea of a life without sin was possible, would there be any need for a Savior? The following may shed some light on this. (Luke 1:6 KJV) And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.(1 Cor 1:8 KJV) Who shall also confirm you unto the end, that ye may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ. (Phil 2:15 KJV) That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;
(Phil 3:6 KJV) Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless.(1 Th 5:23 KJV) And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
(1 Tim 3:2 KJV) A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; (1 Tim 3:10 KJV) And let these also first be proved; then let them use the office of a deacon, being found blameless. (Titus 1:6 KJV) If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly. (Titus 1:7 KJV) For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; not selfwilled, not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given to filthy lucre; (2 Pet 3:14 KJV) Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless. (Mat 9:13 KJV) But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance. (Mark 2:17 KJV) When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance. |
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Post by jimmie on Aug 15, 2014 10:20:32 GMT -8
ALeLUIA! I am fully ThURA observant but eschew all tradition.) That is what I strive to be also. |
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Post by jimmie on Aug 15, 2014 10:19:07 GMT -8
[quote author=" Frank T. Clark" source="/post/17606/thread" timestamp="1408116449 . I am caught between the extremes of ignoring part of what God commands in Christianity and traditional observance beyond what God says. I seek to practice a primitive religion that does all and only what God says. Omnis Scriptura et Sola Scriptura. [/quote] Sounds good to me. |
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