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Post by jimmie on Jul 29, 2024 10:53:49 GMT -8
Elaina,
Below are some scriptures that lay out my thoughts on non-Jews trying to live amongst Jews. While I started out as a pagan that converted to Christianity, my study of scripture and trying to follow Jesus' example of keeping/fulfilling the whole Law of God, has led me to reject most doctrines taught by the church in favor of what scripture and Jesus actually teaches. An example is 7th day (bible based and followed by Christ) verse 1st day (church taught) worship. I have to go with 7th day (sabbath) worship. So, though I am clearly not a home born Jew, my desire is to sojourn among them, keeping the laws that they received from God as Jesus instructed.
Ex 12:48 And when a stranger shall sojourn with thee, and will keep the passover to the LORD, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as one that is born in the land: for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof. 49One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you.
Lev 16:Leviticus 16:29 And this shall be a statute for ever unto you: that in the seventh month, on the tenth day of the month, ye shall afflict your souls, and do no work at all, whether it be one of your own country, or a stranger that sojourneth among you:
Lev 18:Leviticus 18:26Ye shall therefore keep my statutes and my judgments, and shall not commit any of these abominations; neither any of your own nation, nor any stranger that sojourneth among you:
Lev 19:33 And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him. 34But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.
Num 9:14 And if a stranger shall sojourn among you, and will keep the passover unto the LORD; according to the ordinance of the passover, and according to the manner thereof, so shall he do: ye shall have one ordinance, both for the stranger, and for him that was born in the land.
Num 15:14 And if a stranger sojourn with you, or whosoever be among you in your generations, and will offer an offering made by fire, of a sweet savour unto the LORD; as ye do, so he shall do. 15 One ordinance shall be both for you of the congregation, and also for the stranger that sojourneth with you, an ordinance for ever in your generations: as ye are, so shall the stranger be before the LORD. 16 One law and one manner shall be for you, and for the stranger that sojourneth with you.
Numbers 15:29 Ye shall have one law for him that sinneth through ignorance, both for him that is born among the children of Israel, and for the stranger that sojourneth among them.
Numbers 19:10 And he that gathereth the ashes of the heifer shall wash his clothes, and be unclean until the even: and it shall be unto the children of Israel, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among them, for a statute for ever.
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Post by jimmie on Mar 28, 2024 13:37:34 GMT -8
Got it. I read is as Prescribed i.e. to set down as a rule or guide. One little letter makes a big difference. I'll have to pay closer attention to the "jots and tittles" now.
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Post by jimmie on Mar 25, 2024 6:52:11 GMT -8
A related word is the noun ברך berech, Strong's 1288, or "knee."
The is where the expression "Break a Knee" comes from. "Berech" sounds like the English work "Break" and means "knee". So to "break a Knee" is to bow to, or bless, the audience.
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Post by jimmie on Mar 25, 2024 6:41:10 GMT -8
Human sacrifice is of course proscribed in  . think you have the wrong word here: I think you were looking for "prohibited". |
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Post by jimmie on Mar 22, 2024 13:26:55 GMT -8
I don't think Christ ever denounced "Religion", rules, regulations, or the Law.
Jesus did denounced traditions of men that supplanted His (God's) laws which are His(God's) rules regulations and Religion:
Matthew 15:2 Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread.
Matthew 15:3 But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?
Matthew 15:6 And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition.
Mark 7:3 For the Pharisees, and all the Jews, except they wash their hands oft, eat not, holding the tradition of the elders.
Mark 7:5 Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him, Why walk not thy disciples according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashen hands?
Mark 7:8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
Mark 7:9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
Mark 7:13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.
Paul does likewise:
Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
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Post by jimmie on Jan 12, 2024 12:58:47 GMT -8
Peter could not have been the first Pope:
Mark 1:30 But Simon's wife's mother lay sick of a fever, and anon they tell him of her.
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Post by jimmie on Nov 22, 2023 14:18:42 GMT -8
Exodus 5:13 And the taskmasters hasted them, saying, Fulfil your works, your daily tasks, as when there was straw.
I suppose if the Israelis has just Fufiled their work it would have been done away with and they wouldn't had to make any more bricks.
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Post by jimmie on Nov 13, 2023 7:18:26 GMT -8
Hot, cold and luke warm: God seems to have a dislike for the luke warm i.e. those who mix hot(Godly/law abiding) with the cold(un-godly/law breakers).
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Post by jimmie on Sept 29, 2023 6:30:57 GMT -8
I am afraid of offending God by putting down or somehow having a condemning heart toward anyone He has forgiven and He Himself does not condemn. as we should all be. Romans 14:Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand. Philippians 3:14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus. |
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Post by jimmie on Sept 28, 2023 9:48:20 GMT -8
I do think this belief system can sometimes, inadvertently focus on works too much for me. I was recently discussing this belief system with my nephew, and he accused me of having a works salvation. Out of nowhere I asked him "if Jesus also had a works salvation because he kept the Law". Of course, the answer is Jesus was not in need of salvation and thus his keeping of the law had nothing to do with salvation. Nor does our keeping of the law bring us salvation. It is simply how we show our love for God. You are correct, it is all in how we focus on those works. |
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Post by jimmie on Aug 15, 2023 10:32:31 GMT -8
[quote author=" alon" I always say “Knowledge not shared is wasted.” There is however a caveat: “False teaching, even in a Doctor of Divinity course is still false.” Beware of those who know too much; who always have an explanation. The above mentioned Nicolaitans are a good example. I have heard some wild teachings about them. Some say they were gluttonous, some sexually immoral, and others say they were gnostics. And there are many others. But the Bible (to my knowledge) does not tell us about them. Perhaps in some extra-biblical text there is an explanation.I think this is because God wants us to focus more on the fact these types of people exist than what kind of snakerly excrement they teach. Dan [/quote] I have a friend that is going through a seperation and possible divorce. He is convinced that satan is at the root of the problem. He sends me clips of "former" satanist. They turn my belly. They ascribe way more time on him than God. He is mentioned some 160 times compared to the LORD some 7000 times. I try to get him to focus more on the deliverance of God than the oppression of satan. but it falls on deaf ears. Those deaf ears may well be at the root of the problem. |
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Post by jimmie on Apr 28, 2023 9:37:34 GMT -8
I have often pondered why Abram did not bargain with God for Isaac’s life like he did for Lot’s. Did Abram assume that Isaac was going to die no matter what? Like Sodom was destroyed even though Abram had bargained with God to save it for Lot’s sake. I think if I were in Abram’s shoes at this point, I would have acted more like Gideon than Abram.
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Post by jimmie on Feb 3, 2023 14:42:00 GMT -8
Elizabeth, Good to hear from you. "In time I really believe we who belong to Him will all arrive at the same place, and it’s a observant place." Some of the time while discussing topics with christians I like to end with the statement, "When we get to heaven, you will believe just like me. I may be the one changing my mind, but you will believe just like me." Alon, I would like to discuss the two-dimensional image further. I am not exactly how you arrive at the conclusion they could be okay. Could you explain a little further, please. There are a couple of two-dimensional images that are displayed in most churches here in the Bible Belt that I really take issue with. One is the obelisk (translation: my lord's reproductive organ) and the other is the sun burst. Granted the obelisk has a 3D counterpart in the church spire or steeple. The 2D versions usually come in the form of stained-glass windows and wall hangings. to me these are far worse than the christmas trees that are displayed seasonally. |
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Post by jimmie on Jan 30, 2023 7:31:11 GMT -8
A few verses that deal with images that seem not to be commanded to be destroyed:
Genesis 5:3 And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth:
1 Samuel 19:13 And Michal took an image, and laid it in the bed, and put a pillow of goats' hair for his bolster, and covered it with a cloth.
1 Samuel 19:16 And when the messengers were come in, behold, there was an image in the bed, with a pillow of goats' hair for his bolster.
Matthew 22:20 And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription?
Mark 12:16And they brought it. And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription? And they said unto him, Caesar's.
Luke 20:24 Shew me a penny. Whose image and superscription hath it? They answered and said, Caesar's.
The split of the catholic & eastern orthodox church was partly over the use of statues and pictures (icons). The orthodox didn’t like statues and insisted that icons where the way to go. It seems to me the real issue should have been the use of any item in worship.
Should we not have two dimensional images? What about a mirror that produces a near perfect image, heads included?
Job 37:18 Hast thou with him spread out the sky, which is strong, and as a molten looking glass?
James 1:23 For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass:
Yet the mirror can be misused and taken away:
Isaiah-3-16-23 Moreover the LORD saith, Because the daughters of Zion are haughty, and walk with stretched forth necks and wanton eyes, walking and mincing as they go, and making a tinkling with their feet: Therefore the Lord will smite with a scab the crown of the head of the daughters of Zion, and the LORD will discover their secret parts.
In that day the Lord will take away ...The glasses...
I still think that how the image is used is the key. If it is designed to be or to aid in worship, it is against God.
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Post by jimmie on Jan 23, 2023 14:23:10 GMT -8
[/font] And endure they did, though repeatedly attacked by their cousin nations of Moabites (related through Lot’s oldest daughter) and Edomites (through his youngest daughter). They endure today by genetics, despite more recent attempts to destroy them by Nazis, Communists, and Islamists. They also endure in those Gentiles grafted in, most notably we, the Notsarim, despite persecution by just about everyone; most notably the church:[/quote] Genesis 19:38 And the younger, she also bare a son, and called his name Benammi: the same is the father of the children of Ammon unto this day. Genesis 36:9 And these are the generations of Esau the father of the Edomites in mount Seir: I know you know this. Just mentioned for accuracy. |
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