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Post by David Ben Yosef on Mar 10, 2010 13:08:12 GMT -8
Have you ever encountered an Anti-Missionary who attacks the Brit Chadasha, and Yeshua's Messiahship? I've found a guide by Dr. Michael Brown to help you respond to the deceptive tactics most commonly used by the Anti-Missionaries. I'm sure you'll find it most helpful. You can view it here: CLICK ME
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Post by tonga on Mar 28, 2010 17:53:40 GMT -8
Have you ever encountered an Anti-Missionary who attacks the Brit Chadasha, and Yeshua's Messiahship? I've found a guide by Dr. Michael Brown to help you respond to the deceptive tactics most commonly used by the Anti-Missionaries. I'm sure you'll find it most helpful. You can view it here: CLICK ME I personally think this whole missionary-countermissionary-missionary-countermissionary attack thing an entire bore. Why not just allow people to believe as they wish, and have discussions based on mutual respect?
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Post by lawrenceofisrael on Mar 29, 2010 3:44:48 GMT -8
Actually the only permissible way to invite any human to the truth is through respesctful, healthy discussion. But sometimes the guy you debate will not remain respectful but starts calling names or tells lies or whatever. I myself experienced that with a lot of christians.
But you´re absolutely right tonga.
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Post by tonga on Mar 29, 2010 6:08:54 GMT -8
But sometimes the guy you debate will not remain respectful but starts calling names or tells lies or whatever. I myself experienced that with a lot of christians. I've experienced it with Christians and non-Christians. I don't debate others, but if during a discussion they start up with lies/insults, that's the time to walk away. It reflects only poorly upon themselves...one should not lower oneself to that standard in retaliation. I find debate a waste of time because people are set in their beliefs, and by trying to dissuade them, you only get them to dig their feet in deeper.
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Post by dave on Mar 29, 2010 6:29:49 GMT -8
[quote author=tonga board=appologetics thread=2804 post=13003 I personally think this whole missionary-countermissionary-missionary-countermissionary attack thing an entire bore. Why not just allow people to believe as they wish, and have discussions based on mutual respect?[/quote]
Amen!
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Post by David Ben Yosef on Apr 20, 2010 19:34:49 GMT -8
I personally think this whole missionary-countermissionary-missionary-countermissionary attack thing an entire bore. Why not just allow people to believe as they wish, and have discussions based on mutual respect? Well, I started this thread to give a link to some handy scriptural references, to aid those who are confused, or are beginning to buy into the arguments of those who not only question Yeshua's Messiahship, but are downright hostile when spewing their venomous lies. This is serious business, and we as believers in Yeshua should in no way take it lightly. It's a spiritual battlefield out there Tonga, and we need to put on the full armor of HaShem [Ephesians 6]. The Brit Chadasha tells us we should earnestly contend for the faith once delivered to the saints [Jude 3]. That some of those of the circumcision mouths must be stopped [Titus 1:10-11]. And that we are to study the scriptures, to be ready to answer those who ask us about our hope in Yeshua HaMashiakh [1 Peter 3:15]. As believers in Yeshua, we should be concerned, as well as passionate for spreading the gospel of the Kingdom. And vehemently refute those who seek to corrupt it. The welfare of peoples eternal inheritance is at stake. How can we possibly take that lightly? If we all chose to simply do nothing, the gospel would have stopped being preached long ago. G-d forbid! By the way, I have sent you a private message, Tonga. Shalom
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Post by tonga on Apr 20, 2010 20:02:30 GMT -8
I personally think this whole missionary-countermissionary-missionary-countermissionary attack thing an entire bore. Why not just allow people to believe as they wish, and have discussions based on mutual respect? Well, I started this thread to give a link to some handy scriptural references, to aid those who are confused, or are beginning to buy into the arguments of those who not only question Yeshua's Messiahship, but are downright hostile when spewing their venomous lies. This is serious business, and we as believers in Yeshua should in no way take it lightly. It's a spiritual battlefield out there Tonga, and we need to put on the full armor of HaShem [Ephesians 6]. The Brit Chadasha tells us we should earnestly contend for the faith once delivered to the saints [Jude 3]. That some of those of the circumcision mouths must be stopped [Titus 1:10-11]. And that we are to study the scriptures, to be ready to answer those who ask us about our hope in Yeshua HaMashiakh [1 Peter 3:15]. As believers in Yeshua, we should be concerned, as well as passionate for spreading the gospel of the Kingdom. And vehemently refute those who seek to corrupt it. The welfare of peoples eternal inheritance is at stake. How can we possibly take that lightly? If we all chose to simply do nothing, the gospel would have stopped being preached long ago. G-d forbid! By the way, I have sent you a private message, Tonga. Shalom Do you actually have people who try to dissuade you from your belief in Jesus? What is their reason for doing so? I'll check my PM inbox...
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Post by David Ben Yosef on Apr 23, 2010 19:53:06 GMT -8
Do you actually have people who try to dissuade you from your belief in Jesus? What is their reason for doing so? Yes, as a matter of fact I have had them try to dissuade my faith in Yeshua as the promised Mashiakh of Israel. But to no avail, obviously. I can't really say what their motivation for this is, I can only guess. However, what I find most disturbing is their perversion of the Tanakh, and the glaring hatred in which they do it. This group is in no way led by the Spirit of HaShem, as they commit LaShon Hara on a daily basis. It sickens me to tell you the truth. Have you read any of Benmasada's posts? He would be a good example of an anti-missionary. He actually tells people that Yeshua didn't really die when he was crucified, but survived the ordeal, then went and hid somewhere for the remainder of his life. That is only one among other fantastically crazy ideas, including his denial of the resurrection of the dead. The guy is a complete nut case.....LOL Shalom
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Post by ashedinahbatsaul on May 17, 2010 19:08:41 GMT -8
I've spent so much time around Orthodox Jews that I feel I have lost my soul, in the respect that I feel just empty lately. I have stopped blogging for a month. I am not Joan of Arc. I am tired girl
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Post by ashedinahbatsaul on May 17, 2010 19:09:59 GMT -8
Also, My husband is now coming to believe in YeShua. All I had to do was pray to G-d, and G-d performs miracles, and he just cannot deny it anymore, isnt that great?
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Post by tonga on May 17, 2010 23:26:30 GMT -8
I've spent so much time around Orthodox Jews that I feel I have lost my soul, in the respect that I feel just empty lately. I am not sure I understand...can you clarify? I hope you feel "untired" soon
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Post by ashedinahbatsaul on May 21, 2010 7:40:50 GMT -8
I've spent so much time around Orthodox Jews that I feel I have lost my soul, in the respect that I feel just empty lately. I am not sure I understand...can you clarify? I hope you feel "untired" soon Just the fact that being around my fellow Jews and their total contempt for all things Jesus makes me . I love them, but sometimes I feel like I have to hold back so much, and I do hold back a lot. I won one over to Yeshua last week, and she bought the New Testament, but this is all very tiring.
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Post by lowen on May 31, 2010 16:42:27 GMT -8
Just the fact that being around my fellow Jews and their total contempt for all things Jesus makes me . I love them, but sometimes I feel like I have to hold back so much, and I do hold back a lot. I won one over to Yeshua last week, and she bought the New Testament, but this is all very tiring. "Have you not known? Have you not heard? The Lord is the everlasting God, the Creator of the ends of the earth. He does not faint or grow weary; his understanding is unsearchable. He gives power to the faint, and to him who has no might he increases strength. Even youths shall faint and be weary, and young men shall fall exhausted; but they who wait for the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings like eagles; they shall run and not be weary; they shall walk and not faint."--Isaiah 40:28-31 (ESV) Don't worry, sister. Pray to the Lord and He will give you strength and comfort you. You are doing a good work for the Lord. I pray that God blesses you for it, and that Jesus strengthens you in your ministry to your fellow Jewish community. God bless! In much love, --Michael
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Post by lowen on May 31, 2010 16:56:23 GMT -8
For those of you who are are being attacked by anti-Christians, and your faith is wavering, I suggest you read the book of Hebrews. The book of Hebrews, as it is understood by some, is a book that was meant to encourage early Christian Jews who were struggling to maintain their faith. They struggled because the other Jews around them were trying to convince them that their belief in Jesus Christ was wrong. But the book of Hebrews, as I have discovered myself, will increase your faith.
The book of Hebrews will give you great confidence in the message of our Lord Jesus Christ, and,
Therefore, brothers, since we have confidence to enter the holy places by the blood of Jesus, by the new and living way that he opened for us through the curtain, that is, through his flesh, and since we have a great priest over the house of God, let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, with our hearts sprinkled clean from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water. Let us hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering, for he who promised is faithful. And let us consider how to stir up one another to love and good works, not neglecting to meet together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another, and all the more as you see the Day drawing near.
--Hebrews 10:19-25 (ESV)
In much love,
brother Michael
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Post by hamashiachagape on Sept 9, 2010 11:06:04 GMT -8
Have you ever encountered an Anti-Missionary who attacks the Brit Chadasha, and Yeshua's Messiahship? I've found a guide by Dr. Michael Brown to help you respond to the deceptive tactics most commonly used by the Anti-Missionaries. I'm sure you'll find it most helpful. You can view it here: CLICK ME I personally think this whole missionary-countermissionary-missionary-countermissionary attack thing an entire bore. Why not just allow people to believe as they wish, and have discussions based on mutual respect? We are supposed to Evangelize in the understanding of the truth.
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