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Post by Questor on Feb 28, 2014 22:38:54 GMT -8
This is a difficult question for everyone wonders why we are not healed when we pray for it. YHVH has promised us blessings if we walk in Righteousness...among them health and long life.
We walk in righteousness under Yeshua's covering, and we also strive to be in obedience, if imperfectly in our broken humanity. If we are ill, we are to seek the elders, and be prayed for with anointing of oil, and the laying on of hands. We are to have faith, and receive the blessing of YHVH. How is it then that there are those among us that are not healed?
I am in the midst of being healed...damaged from an auto accident, yet almost 19 years later still getting better.
The more I treat myself well, sleep properly, eat properly, and the longer I am saturating my body with nutrients from organic vegetables with all their nutrients, and taking all the supplements that are there to be had, more vitamins, more minerals, more probiotics, antioxidents, EVERYTHING, I take, the more I am healed. A little here, another bit there. The pain fades, returns, fades. The PTSD wearies me unutterably. And still I make progress. I can bend, where before I was locked in a paralysis of stiffening. I can stand, and walk...a bit more than before. I am less fearful of driving, more able to be around people. I am better, certainly, but I am not yet healed. Why am I not well?
I do live in a broken world, and in a broken, aging body, in a world saturated with stress, and wickedness. Still, I believe YHVH, and that He said He would heal us...has healed us in Yeshua. And I am being healed...a little bit at a time. Is this all my faith will produce? Is my faith that little still, that I have so much less than a mustard seed's worth of healing? I speak to my mountains, and hardly a grain of dust moves.
My friends are dying, or in pain, or mourning and exhaustion. What are they doing wrong? What am I doing wrong? Is it all a product of lapsing from faith? When we question YHVH? When we ask, why? When we say the wrong things?
Why are we not being healed?
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Post by Frank T. Clark on Mar 2, 2014 8:44:17 GMT -8
I hear, feel, and understand your pain. Your question is one I have wondered and heard many times. As a fellow believer in God, I know you know that God does hear us and He does respond from His heart of love in the way that is best for us. His infinite wisdom sees the best solution where we can't. He did not cause all the results of sin but He has an absolute plan to put an end to it. He will heal every one of those who are faithful and that healing will be complete and eternal. I suspect you know these things quite well but the struggle still continues. Our Savior understands the pain as none of us can and even He said "My God, My God, Why have you forsaken me?" Trust Him.
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Post by alon on Mar 2, 2014 8:54:47 GMT -8
Yeshayahu 45:7 "I form light, I create darkness; I make well-being, I create woe; I, ADONAI, do all these things."
Remember that HaShem is sovereign, and in control of all things. He more often uses the weak, the imperfect to accomplish His will so that no one can say it was done in their own strength. It is thought by the ancient rabbi's that Moses had a speech impediment. Yet he was chosen to lead God's people to freedom.
Mephibosheth, grandson of King Shaul, was crippled in both legs. Yet he was used to further King David as a type of HaMoshiac when he was given a place at the kings table.
Shamshoun accomplished hi greatest feat after loosing his sight and being enslaved and humiliated. In the end, God used him to destroy all the priests and leaders of Nineva.
Romans 9 asks rhetorically if the potter cannot determine to make some vessels for noble use, some for common use, and some even for destruction.
YHVH Rapha can and does still heal miraculously. But He does it to whom He pleases, and in His time.
Yeshua probably walked past the beggar at the gates of the Temple many times and never healed the man. Then when Peter healed him in Acts 3:6 it confirmed his calling as a disciple and an apostle of Yeshua, one sent by God Himself to the crowd gathered there for prayers.
So don't loose faith because you don't receive immediate, miraculous healing. God has a plan and a calling even to those who suffer most. One lady in our disabilities group is restricted to a wheelchair and suffers immensely. Yet she is a constant witness to those in the assisted living center where she resides. And she does get down, is depressed all the time. But her faith doesn't waver.
I too am disabled. But I live in hope, and trust in YHVH Jireh to provide in the meantime.
My personal bit of insanity (belief based solely on conjecture and hope) is that when the end starts, the unsaved will suddenly see a whole bunch of us disabled types out leaping, working, and witnessing to what God has just done. Like the lame beggar healed by Peter- he immediately went into the Temple, from which he was previously barred by his disability, leapt about and told them about what had happened. Then, for the first time in his life he stood and recited the Amidah- the Standing Prayer.
Dan C
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Post by Questor on Mar 4, 2014 2:53:51 GMT -8
Thank you both...even as i was writing my wailing about healing, I still knew that I am being healed...from faith to faith as my soul prospers.
My decision has been to continue as I have been, yet spend more time listening to the Word to gain faith, that I might be more readily healed.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2014 9:32:08 GMT -8
Hello Questor where is your fellowship? What do your fellows say?
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Post by jimmie on May 7, 2014 9:50:08 GMT -8
Matt 9:24 And straightway the father of the child cried out, and said with tears, Lord, I believe; help thou mine unbelief.
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Post by alon on May 7, 2014 10:12:39 GMT -8
Matt 9:24 And straightway the father of the child cried out, and said with tears, Lord, I believe; help thou mine unbelief. So, you believe unbelief is the reason we are not healed?  Dan  C |
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Post by jimmie on May 7, 2014 10:41:01 GMT -8
I believe the father in this story believed what Christ taught yet his son was not healed. He didn't blame Christ for his son not being healed. He took responsibility and asked for Christ help with his shortcomings.
I will not venture a guess as to why someone is not being healed or is going through hard times. Job's friend's were quick to do just that.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2014 10:48:31 GMT -8
I believe the father in this story believed what Christ taught yet his son was not healed. He didn't blame Christ for his son not being healed. He took responsibility and asked for Christ help with his shortcomings. I will not venture a guess as to why someone is not being healed or is going through hard times. Job's friend's were quick to do just that. You really seem to be walking truly. That is a lovely interpretation Did you know Iyov spoke of the resurrection? Not only on faith in what he believed the Lord capaple of, but in faith in how righteous he is. Incidentally where was Iyov from? |
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Post by alon on May 7, 2014 10:57:21 GMT -8
I believe the father in this story believed what Christ taught yet his son was not healed. He didn't blame Christ for his son not being healed. He took responsibility and asked for Christ help with his shortcomings. I will not venture a guess as to why someone is not being healed or is going through hard times. Job's friend's were quick to do just that. Good point. Thanks for the clarification. DanC |
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Post by jimmie on May 7, 2014 11:06:10 GMT -8
thanks for your kind remarks.
Job was from Uz(consultation). The area settled by Shem's(name)grandson Uz. located close to the lands of the Philistines and Ashkelon.
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Post by Questor on May 8, 2014 19:40:52 GMT -8
Hello Questor where is your fellowship? What do your fellows say?
As to what those Believers that I know, all struggle with this problem...some more than another, and most more than I, because I have seen a lot of miracle working in my life already. I have been prayed for by Beleivers with laying on of hands, I have been prayed for daily for years by many. I speak to my mountains in the name of Yehoshua in the power of Adonai, and I get better, and I am led further, and one day, Abba will decide that what I have suffered is suffient for my problems with pride, and arrogance, for my wanting my will, and not Abba's, for going my way, and not His, for molding me into what He wants me to be, and I pray that He change me all the more.
It is then, when sufficient work has been accomplished upon me, and even through me that I will be healed, and the timing will be perfect. But like any human, I am overwhelmed at times by what I experience, and alas, there is sorrow and mourning and pain and sickness all around me...amongst others who Believe, and bear fruit for Abba.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2014 5:44:58 GMT -8
I believe the father in this story believed what Christ taught yet his son was not healed. He didn't blame Christ for his son not being healed. He took responsibility and asked for Christ help with his shortcomings. I will not venture a guess as to why someone is not being healed or is going through hard times. Job's friend's were quick to do just that. Iyov's friends had one thing right, that he should not justify himself, but El Shaddai, Who is God Most High. Most people aren't as sorely tested as Iyov and should always Justify The Lord rather than themselves. The Lord does heal, as is codified in Exodus …25Then he cried out to the LORD, and the LORD showed him a tree; and he threw it into the waters, and the waters became sweet. There He made for them a statute and regulation, and there He tested them. 26And He said, "If you will give earnest heed to the voice of the LORD your God, and do what is right in His sight, and give ear to His commandments, and keep all His statutes, I will put none of the diseases on you which I have put on the Egyptians; for I, the LORD, am your healer." Therefore there is word of healing in the Law. |
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Post by alon on May 22, 2014 12:10:13 GMT -8
I believe the father in this story believed what Christ taught yet his son was not healed. He didn't blame Christ for his son not being healed. He took responsibility and asked for Christ help with his shortcomings. I will not venture a guess as to why someone is not being healed or is going through hard times. Job's friend's were quick to do just that. Iyov's friends had one thing right, that he should not justify himself, but El Shaddai, Who is God Most High. Most people aren't as sorely tested as Iyov and should always Justify The Lord rather than themselves. The Lord does heal, as is codified in Exodus …25Then he cried out to the LORD, and the LORD showed him a tree; and he threw it into the waters, and the waters became sweet. There He made for them a statute and regulation, and there He tested them. 26And He said, "If you will give earnest heed to the voice of the LORD your God, and do what is right in His sight, and give ear to His commandments, and keep all His statutes, I will put none of the diseases on you which I have put on the Egyptians; for I, the LORD, am your healer." Therefore there is word of healing in the Law. Exactly which chapter in Exodus is your quote from? And don't tell me you don't concern yourself with "details"- that is a pretty important one, don't you think? |
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Post by jimmie on May 22, 2014 12:36:08 GMT -8
Ex 15:25-26
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