Jesus, Yeshua, Yohshua

[R' Y'hoshua Moshe]

I was not being critical of any one else's take on the subject, I was simply offering my viewpoint.
I may not have contributed much more than my own views, but that was all I intended.

Sorry brother, I didn't think you were being critical. Although, people are free to disagree. I was just curious to see if there was an ancient document that I wasn't aware of that spells the name of Messiah with the Hebrew character, "Hey". If someone has a Biblical case for the spelling of Messiah's name with the Hebrew character "Hey", I would be interested in listening.

As stated above I use Yeshua or Yeshua.

Very good

Berachot b'Yeshua HaMashiach
(Blessings in Yeshua The Messiah),

Reuel

[Blake]

admin said:

The main goal is to get the message of observance across to our Christian friends, and the message of Messiah to our Jewish friends.

Agreed

Shalom and welcome Jeremiel!

I prefer, since we read that Christ is the Salvation of YAH, then the name of Christ would then be rendered as YAH-shua or simply Yeshua and not Yeshua.

Yes, I am aware of this interpretation of Messiah's name. I don't necessarily have a problem with it accept for it seems to be more a product of one's theology as we have no example in scripture of Messiah's name written this way. If one insists on having "Yah" connected with Messiah's name, He should be referred to as the Yeshua of Yah. The reason being; Yeshua means salvation. Yeshua to my knowledge does not translate to mean salvation. The Hebrew word for salvation is not spelled the same way as the those whom spell "Yeshua" in Hebrew.

So, by inserting the "ah" in the beginning of Messiah's name, you take out the meaning of salvation. Even the primitive root for salvation, "yâsha‛" does not employ the Hebrew character "Hey" which we find in the name of the Father (Yod, Hey, Vav, Hey). Again, I believe the spelling "Yeshua" is product of the Holy Namer movement and not so much that of scripture. In fact, we find that on the ossuary (bone box) of Yeshua the Messiah's brother (Yaakov/James) we find that Messiah's name is spelled with the Hebrew characters "Yod", "Shin", "Vav/Shureq", "Ayin" which spells, "Yeshua". Take a look...

For anyone whom can read Hebrew there is no question how Messiah's name is spelled.

The phrase etched on the side of this ossuary says, "Ya'akov, son of Yoseph, brother of Yeshua". This is what the family and friends whom buried Yeshua's brother knew as the name of Messiah. We also see this rendering in the known Semitic texts of the Brit Chadashah (New Test.). In other words, there is -no- evidence at all that supports the spelling, "Yeshua". But, I do not judge those whom feel convicted to pronounce Messiah's name this way. And, I reserve the right to be wrong

Shalom Chaverim
(Peace friends),

Reuel

Hasn't that ossuary been proven to have been a fraud months ago?

[Chizuk Emunah]

Yeah, but I didn't want to say anything.......

[R' Y'hoshua Moshe]

I havn't seen a document yet proclaiming that scholars all agree that it was a fraud...not that it doesn' exist, I just havn't seen it yet. Can anybody share the irrefutable evidence? Regardless, all valid existant documents close to the Hebrew or Aramaic language (not including the "Shem Tob") point to the spelling of "Yeshua". Any objections?

Shalom chaverim,

Reuel

[Stacey]

I have a friend who writes "Yahvahshua" for Jesus, but having not seen it here, I'm assuming that's not even an option. Where did that come from I wonder?

[Chizuk Emunah]

Regardless, all valid existant documents close to the Hebrew or Aramaic language (not including the "Shem Tob") point to the spelling of "Yeshua".

Bingo! And you sir, have nailed it on the head. Those sources are our irrefutable evidence.

Unfortunately, Oded Golan's artifacts may be fakes, but since I am not an expert in the field and have not seen all the supporting evidence, I can make no ruling either way.

[R' Y'hoshua Moshe]

I have a friend who writes "Yahvahshua" for Jesus, but having not seen it here, I'm assuming that's not even an option. Where did that come from I wonder?

Oh my, that is a good question. I would agree that it is not an option.

Shalom,

Reuel