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Post by Tzav_laTzav on Jan 30, 2007 18:56:42 GMT -8
I read it in this thread or in the other -- I didn't have time to ask my question at the time, so I don't know. Someone mentioned that tzitziot are not to be removed from a tallit gadol or katan. I am wondering why? Any idea? I have several tallit katan, and I switch the tzitziot between them all the time, so that I can wear clean clothes. Can this be legitimately defined as wrong? Also, I have seen some really nasty-looking tzitziot at times -- embarrassing looking thangs! Sometimes, it looks like the shreds of someone's filthy underware elastic! People need to get new ones regularly! Yech! So how does one discard worn out tzitziot, or is there any hallachah on that? (I would think there would be!) ___________________________ Oh, yes! And Rick! I'll bet you can do wonders with duct tape! You do WELL!
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Post by Rick on Jan 30, 2007 19:13:52 GMT -8
Toda Achi
Rick
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Post by R' Y'hoshua Moshe on Feb 5, 2007 2:45:11 GMT -8
Shalom Tzav_laTzav, I don't think there is a problem with removing tzitzit and transfering them to other garments. I don't see any prohibitions in regarding this. To address your previous question, I do not think obligates women to wear tzitizyot. Historically up until recently it actually was not the norm for women in Yisrael to do so. I think if a woman chooses to wear tzitziyot that it is acceptable as long as it is done with a garment that is clearly feminine. What I do take issue with is women wearing men's clothing. When a women starts wearing a garment that bears the tzitzit that has always traditionally been a garment of a man (such as a tallit gadol, or even a men's tallit katan), I believe it is a violation of . Clearly there can be a tallit katan that is feminine (not like most that are sold on the internet or otherwise). If a woman chooses to wear tzitziyot I think wearing them on your "aprons", wear them on your dresses, wear them on your head coverings is acceptable… But, I council Messianic and observant women not to wear the tallit (traditionally a man's garment) or most tallit katan (also traditionally a garment of a man). When women consider wearing tzitziyot they should be careful not to break one commandment while attempting to keep another. Shalom aleychem, Reuel
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Post by Tzav_laTzav on Feb 5, 2007 9:14:40 GMT -8
Thank you for your answer; it is very appreciated.
I have bought regular tallit katanim in shops, but they do not work for me -- way too long, usually, as I am only 5'4". I had not given thought to the idea of these being men's clothing, because they would have been worn under my clothes. However, since they did not work, I just made my own tallit katanim, which are, now that you bring it up, feminine-looking, in spite of the fact that I did not consider that while making them or even until now.
I had made my tallit katanim with little plastic loops in each corner, and my tzitziot go there, easily removed without unpraiding them. It had never occurred to me that this could be wrong, so thank you for some assurance about removing them for laundering!
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Post by Tzav_laTzav on Feb 5, 2007 9:21:41 GMT -8
Yet another question. You menitoned that you do not think a woman should wear tallit hagadol, because it is men's apparel. I have one, which I sometimes use in the privacy of my home while praying/studying. What are your thoughts on this?
Also, some tallit hagadol are made specifically for women. What are your thoughts on these?
Thank you!!
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Post by R' Y'hoshua Moshe on Feb 6, 2007 22:56:55 GMT -8
Shalom achot,
Many women I know use larger headcoverings made specifically for women. I believe that the design of the tallit gadol with the crown and the large square corners was originally made for the male. So, even if pink or some other slightly more feminine designs are used on a tallit...it is pushing the envelope. But, these are just my thoughts.
Berachot b'Yeshua,
Reuel
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Post by Tzav_laTzav on Feb 7, 2007 9:59:11 GMT -8
Thank you for your answer!
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