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Post by R' Y'hoshua Moshe on Feb 26, 2006 20:21:18 GMT -8
Shalom Lovingneighbor  Do you know whom is doing the sorcery you are describing? Wouldn’t that make a difference in a story? After all, there are people doing sorcery in the Bible…and of course it makes a difference whom is and whom is not doing it….Your comparison of “Broke Back Mountain” and the movie in question is not a fair one….of course a movie expressedly about homosexuality (and that it is acceptable) is wrong…but, the subject of the movie in question is not sorcery…sorry, try again. Finally, some constructive criticism based on knowledge…refreshing.  Calledout, I agree with your estimation as found above. Amein v’amein. Reuel |
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Post by Blake on Mar 1, 2006 9:29:11 GMT -8
"Shalom Blake, Dragons aren't mythological creatures because the bible talks about them." Shalom brother, but I must disagree here. Just because a beast in mentioned in the Bible doesn't mean that a creature like that actually existed. Has a leopard with four heads or a winged lion ever walked the earth? They are symbols used to represent kingdoms or governments. But you are right about dragons I suppose in some sense because dragon can be synonomous with a large serpent I think rather than the western idea of a winged dinosaur -like animal "THey are real. Second every pagan religion has good and evil so to say that we should all start attending their religoins would violate  . Repeatedly YHWH warns us not to learn the ways of the heathens. He doesn't say well as long as you realize they are bad or as long as it teaches good vs evil. he says don't do it; There is a game called Magic the gathering and in it there are white cards representing forces of good and black representing the bad, now you could play without using evil but the point is you shouldn't have anything to do with it. It amazes me how many poeple tout the auther as if they were moses or Yeshua like their works are so worthy we must not dishoner them.. please how about the words of YHWH who saved you telling you not to have anything to do with witchcraft. Lots wife was not even supposed to look upon Sodom but to go away from it and not as a dog return to its vomit. If this advice is too hard to hear pray and meditate to YHWH and ask him if this offering should be brought into his holy place. Shalom" No one is advocating what you are saying. The stories of LOTR and CON (the books atleast) are far more than allegories for good vs. evil, they actually directly take the story of redemption and use the worlds they made to illustrate it. A lot of people don't undertsand the cosmic magnitude of redemption and being able to look at it from the perspective of such fantastic stories can help one have a deeper and more spirtual understanding of the ideas. Now I would never go as far to put these authors on a pedastal with Moshe or other such insanity, but I cannot denegrade their works because they written in the right spirit. You would really need to open your mind and read the works before you can judge them. After you read them you can come to a fair conclusion. |
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Post by Ashirah on Mar 19, 2006 20:25:40 GMT -8
What I see happening here is, "A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still". People need to agree to disagree on this one. And I think we need to keep in mind that Yah grows each of us up from where we currently are. That's His job, not ours. One of the lovliest truths is that we are all in different stages, with different beliefs, different passions, different points of interests. I do not believe we will all get along or all believe the same thing until Yeshua comes and every knee shall bow - until He brings to us and is Teacher to all. Anything that we disagree on is not worth becoming heart-hearted about, nor losing our peace over, nor losing our respect, admiration and profound love for each other. Shalom |
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Post by LovingNeighbor on Mar 23, 2006 12:57:03 GMT -8
Shalom all, It's funny Blake I was reading your post in the middle not realizing you were qouting me and said to myself finnaly someone see's this the way I do. Then I realized it was my own words  Anyway, I am slightly amazed in group of observant men and women who are learning what is right and wrong no one is condemning this kind of magic movie. It's like is a book is going to convice you magic is ok why not the book of mormon. It has good allegories and is bible based. Oh To say I don't understand the movie is not accurate either. I probably have been into to more mythological magic, d&d and fantasy books than most I used to play in Tournaments so I know all about the stories and what world they represent. And that is why I don't go there. All magic games and stuff has good and evil that is the lamest justification there is. Please reconsider if Messiah in his holiness would tellanyone to go watch this movie. Shalom |
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Post by Firestorm on Mar 24, 2006 14:12:49 GMT -8
::)Ashirah, Your words are wise and soberminded.
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Post by R' Y'hoshua Moshe on Mar 26, 2006 12:23:24 GMT -8
LovingNeighbor, I wouldn't go out and reccommend this movie for people to watch for several reasons, but I also wouldn't necessarily condemn it for your supposed reasons either. I say supposed because you havn't actually seen the movie, nor are you aware of it's actual contents. I respect your personal choice, but I would also not go out and condemn something that you were not a personal witness to. Amein. Just so everyone knows I love my brother LovingNeighbor and we are actually good friends outside of cyberspace. Reuel |
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Post by Natan-El on May 10, 2006 16:43:43 GMT -8
I suppose my question would be twofold:
"Do we need ANYTHING other than G-d's Word to teach us what is right, what is wrong, what the message about Yeshua is, and do we need anything else besides the Bible to teach the nations?"
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Post by R' Y'hoshua Moshe on May 22, 2006 0:08:26 GMT -8
Agreed, we certainly don't need movies like this to teach us what the word of our Heavenly Father already teaches us. But, I would have to say that I have seen some movies (other than the one in question) that illustrates these lessons very well and that magnify just as scripture speaks of. Shalom, Reuel |
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. Repeatedly YHWH warns us not to learn the ways of the heathens. He doesn't say well as long as you realize they are bad or as long as it teaches good vs evil. he says don't do it; There is a game called Magic the gathering and in it there are white cards representing forces of good and black representing the bad, now you could play without using evil but the point is you shouldn't have anything to do with it. It amazes me how many poeple tout the auther as if they were moses or Yeshua like their works are so worthy we must not dishoner them.. please how about the words of YHWH who saved you telling you not to have anything to do with witchcraft. Lots wife was not even supposed to look upon Sodom but to go away from it and not as a dog return to its vomit. If this advice is too hard to hear pray and meditate to YHWH and ask him if this offering should be brought into his holy place. Shalom"
Anyway, I am slightly amazed in group of 
