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Post by alon on Jul 3, 2014 13:43:22 GMT -8
I don't think food preparation was an exclusive female duty in bible days. 
This would have been one of the things that made Jacob more favorable in the eyes of God though- he definitely did stay in camp and tend to the duties of a son while Esau habitually went hunting.
In the times of the kings for sure there were cooks spoken of and I don't think any gender is specified.
1 Samuel 9:23 Sh'mu'el instructed the cook, "Serve the portion I gave you and told you to set aside."
I will also say from a lot of experience that whenever encamped as these earlier mentioned nomadic tribesmen were, no one is too good to stir the stew or tend the fire. Everyone has their chores delineated to them, but it only works if everyone looks out for each other and adds water if they see it is drying out and the cook is busy elsewhere. You can get your nose all bent, rail about the cook not doing his/her bit and refuse to help- but then you get to eat burnt stew! 
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Post by R' Y'hoshua Moshe on Jul 7, 2014 9:46:09 GMT -8
B"H Shalom chaverim! I agree that we have to be careful not to add our own tradition to the mitzvot when it serves to break the mitzvah (see Yeshua's words in Mattityahu/Matt. 15:6-9), or if it makes the keeping of the  over burdensome. With that being said, I also believe to interpret the scripture in such a way that attempts to somehow circumvent its literal fulfillment is a violation of the , and would be guilty of Yeshua's warning not to break God's mitzvot through our own traditional understanding and practice (dogma). The mitzvah says what it says, even if it doesn't make sense to us, or is not practical for how we have decided to live our life. If the says not to kindle a fire on the Shabbat, we should not do it... The Hebrew speaks of beginning a new fire, not maintaining one that is already kindled. The subject of cooking food on Shabbat, although it can be related, it really is a different subject all together. Just because you have a fire, doesn't mean that we are to cook with it. We know this to be true if we read scripture in context, for Shemot (Exodus) 16:22-27 tells us clearly that we should be doing this cooking on the day of preparation, and not on Shabbat. This is just clear scripture. It states, "On the sixth day they gathered twice as much bread, two 'omers per person; and all the community leaders came and reported to Moshe. He told them, "This is what HaShem has said: 'Tomorrow is a holy Shabbat for HaShem. Bake what you want to bake; boil what you want to boil; and whatever is left over, set aside and keep for the morning.'" They set it aside till morning, as Moshe had ordered; and it didn't rot or have worms. Moshe said, "Today, eat that; because today is a Shabbat for HaShem - today you won't find it in the field. Gather it six days, but the seventh day is the Shabbat - on that day there won't be any." However, on the seventh day, some of the people went out to gather and found none". If someone will not accept such simple instruction from the , than my response would be along the lines of Adonai's response in the very next verse (vs.28); "HaShem said to Moshe, "How long will you refuse to observe my mitzvot and teachings?". Because this thread is based on the question of kindling a fire, and not whether or not we should cook on the Shabbat, if it continues to turn into another subject, this discussion should be moved to its own thread, or to a thread where the discussion is already taking place. B'rachot aleychem, R' Reuel |
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Post by alon on Jul 12, 2014 3:50:22 GMT -8
MOD NOTE: I removed several of bngo's posts that violated protocol here, as well as a few of mine. If you think yours looks goofy replying to a post that isn't there then please delete it. Thakns/todah!
Dan C
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