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Post by R' Y'hoshua Moshe on Mar 22, 2004 14:58:20 GMT -8
What do you think about worship dance that takes place during the congregational/synagouge meeting?
Shalom,
Reuel
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Post by Jessica on Apr 3, 2004 12:41:18 GMT -8
It's like a whole different type of worship. I have done it for years and have been so blessed by it.
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Post by R' Y'hoshua Moshe on Apr 4, 2004 0:52:15 GMT -8
Yes, I agree. Before I tried Davidic worship dance, I was not much of a dancer  But, somehow Adonai changed my heart and I find it to be an intimate time with Him, as I worship Him with whole mind, -body-, and soul. I believe Yeshua enjoyed this as well. Shalom B'Yeshua, Reuel |
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Post by Yochanah on Apr 18, 2004 14:56:43 GMT -8
Eccles. 3:1
To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven.
I have seen much beauty in worship through dance but I have also seen where the enemy has perverted this through those who are not truly converted. To preserve the set-apartness of the sanctuary service, I would prefer the two were separate and distinct services. When dance is going on at the same time as the service it can be very distracting to some, especially new-comers. As there were temple singers and dancers in ancient times it would be well to have the same today. But as King Solomon said, "To everything there is a season, and a time to every purpose under heaven." Sabbath services should last all day in some form or another. There is plenty of time for both, that each would be participated with whole heart service. And I am of the firm belief that the dance should be performed by separate gender groups. We are to avoid even the appearance of evil and not lay temptation at the feet for a weaker brother or sister to stumble over. The dance should be pure and enobling...but we are still in a wicked world and the tares are with us until the very end. Just my thoughts brought about by watchful observation. Shalom
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Post by R' Y'hoshua Moshe on Apr 18, 2004 15:09:06 GMT -8
Yochanah, You have some very good points. And, I think I agree.  Hmmm...I will have to bring this up at our next leadership meeting. Do you mind if I print your post to share with the leadership of our congregation? Shalom sister, Reuel |
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Post by The 614th Mitzvot on Aug 13, 2004 11:57:49 GMT -8
I enjoy dancing, but sometimes I see people doing it for the looks. I have been to a church where people told us not to dance because G-D hates it; then I went to another where we were told to dance because G-d hate it when we stop; what about the elder people?  I figure dancing is permissable, but is not always profitable.  |
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Post by messimom on Jul 15, 2005 22:55:30 GMT -8
I figured I'd add my two cents to this since I actually belong to a Davidic dance team.
I do not agree with having worship/dance during the teaching time. That is ridiculous. As we all know, Adonai is an Elohim of order not chaos, and if we did both at the same time, it would be chaos.
As far as why people choose to dance in worship, only Adonai knows one's heart. I cannot say that someone should not dance because I don't believe they are truly converted and worshiping. I do believe I have seen people doing worship dance purely for looks, and usually everyone around them knows it too. This is a matter for that person to address and deal with themselves.
I also know that when I am in a circle dance and am dancing next to a seventy year old man and a six year old girl, that I have never felt so unified with my brothers and sisters in Yeshua as I do right then. Unified prayer can't even accomplish that link between generations like dancing can.
I am one of those people who is hesitant to even clap to worship music in front of others, but everything in me changes when I am free to dance in worship. I am suddenly worshiping with my all. No more worrying about what others think of me, only my extreme joy in being to able to worship YHVH with my whole being.
I also believe in structured dance, no free for all over the worship floor area. Then the unity is lost and it becomes a distraction, and as has happened in some cases I've witnessed, a hazard. However, I see nothing wrong with dancing by yourself when you're alone.
I have seen people's entire countenance change when watching someone do worship dance, and then to actually be told that they can do it too!! True worship can sometimes break down doors and melt barriers so much faster than any words of instruction. And actually, when you think about it, Davidic dance is one of the very few things unifying the whole Messianic body these days.
Concerning the other thread of a Messianic Halakah, this is one of the few things bringing unification today. You can walk into any Messianic synagogue that believes in true worship and enter a circle dance with little to no improvisation from what you already know. It truly is amazing, quite a blessing!!
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Post by R' Y'hoshua Moshe on Jul 17, 2005 20:17:15 GMT -8
Shalom Messimom, I share your sentiments |
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Post by Otto on Apr 13, 2007 4:07:56 GMT -8
Well here is my 2cents. I suppose there is a place and a time for dancing before the L-rd. I did belong to a congregation where the dance was fun and used in praise & worship, after each prayer, song & music of said prayer would be played and the congregation [who wanted to] would dance. But then it started to change and the Dance become it soul purpose, its heart. We traveled all over the country performing and teaching dance and it become very costly $ to people, and after each service it was practices, practices, practices.{before Sabbath ended} What started out as praise & worship become a burden.
I believe in the proper setting and place the dance can be a wonderful way to express praise & worship to the L-rd. I am just burned out with it.
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Post by heisrisen on Dec 22, 2008 19:53:19 GMT -8
It is written "Do everything as unto the lord."
Especially Worship and Dance - which in Psalms is a form of worship ands praise.
Dancing is just movement unless you - are dancing unto HIM and are dancing before HIM - celbrating the life that HE has given you -
Dance is one of the few ways that we have of communicating our worship and our praise
"Let everything that has breath praise the Lord "! (Psalm 150)
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Post by betchevy on Aug 19, 2009 23:33:43 GMT -8
I do love dancing , in a congregation during praise and worship is fun, but the best is when a group gets together to dance with only Father watching.... in one congregation where I visited the dancers danced in the back of the congregation, not the front....I felt more comfortable there than in the front...less like I was dancing for the people there....when it is just the dancers dancing for and with Father, that is the very best for me...and for me alone, to dance before Him...with Him... is wonderful.... I have taught dance to adults and children...dancing with children is amazing..to teach them to worship with their whole being ...
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Post by veggirl on Aug 20, 2009 12:07:46 GMT -8
Hello betchevy,
People dance in back of the congregation where I fellowship at, I agree its better back there u get one on one with the father,, : )
I am still learning how to dance, but I do know some American Sign Language, I love signing and dancing to the lord.
I just need to get better at it.
Signing to the lord is the best thing on earth, just talking with my hands to him, theres something beautiful about it.
Peace&love Bri'gette
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Post by tonga on Oct 11, 2009 18:41:12 GMT -8
I can't speak for non-Orthodox shuls, but we do not dance on shabbas. When there is dancing- for simchas or on Simchat  , for example, men and women dance separately for modesty. Can someone explain what "Davidic Dance" is? Is it the same as Israeli folkdancing? |
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Post by zionlion on Oct 11, 2009 20:21:33 GMT -8
I think Davidic dancing refers to the time when David returned from killing Goliath and women from all Israel came and welcomed him with singing and dancing. (1 Samuel, Ch.18)
Or it could refer to when David was bringing the Ark of the Covenant up to Jerusalem and he danced before the Lord. (2 Samuel, Ch. 6) But this is only an assumption.
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Post by tonga on Oct 11, 2009 21:44:37 GMT -8
I think Davidic dancing refers to the time when David returned from killing Goliath and women from all Israel came and welcomed him with singing and dancing. (1 Samuel, Ch.18) Or it could refer to when David was bringing the Ark of the Covenant up to Jerusalem and he danced before the Lord. (2 Samuel, Ch. 6) But this is only an assumption. But what form does the dancing take? ie, is it similar to Israel folk dancing, or the dancing done at simchas? Or is there something that differentiates "Davidic dancing" from other forms of Jewish /Israeli dancing? |
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But, somehow Adonai changed my heart and I find it to be an intimate time with Him, as I worship Him with whole mind, -body-, and soul. I believe Yeshua enjoyed this as well.
from Sinai and transmitted it to Yoheshuah; Yoheshuah to the Shoftim; the Shoftim to the Nev'yim; and the Nev'yim transmitted it throughout Judea. It came BACK to Yohshuah HaMoshiach who retransmitted it to the rest of the world through Reb Sha'ul and Reb Cephas.
