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Post by R' Y'hoshua Moshe on Feb 14, 2005 17:14:58 GMT -8
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Post by verrid on Feb 16, 2005 8:49:46 GMT -8
Replace the Jewish state with a muslim one?
Does the world really need another muslim country?
May YHWH have the victory over Allah.!!
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Post by Blake on Feb 16, 2005 18:27:51 GMT -8
These kinds of statements don't help anybody.
For every terrorist Moslem there is thousands of good God-fearing Moslems as well.
They may believe many false teachings, but so do most Christians.
Also, Allah is simply their name for YHVH and it simply means "The God". Arguments that the term Allah was used for a pagan moon-deity and is not the same God don't make sense to me. Because the english term "God" can refer to false deities as well, as can the Hebrew Elohim and El.
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Post by R' Y'hoshua Moshe on Feb 16, 2005 21:59:26 GMT -8
I echo Verrid's statement. Just as YHVH had showed his victory over the mighty ones of Egypt, may YHVH have the victory over Allah. Dear brother, these kind of statements are scattered all throughout TeNaKh. I would respectively disagree. G-d fearing indicates obedience. Moslems reject  , and not only add to it, but severely diminish from it. Actually, when one studies this out (as I have), the "Allah" of Mohammad was indeed one of the many pagan mighty ones that was selected by the Muslim prophet as the -only mighty one-. He was indeed the "Moon god". Take a look at the crescent on top of all the muslim buildings and mosques. Allah is clearly in no way, shape, or form equivalent to YHVH. The teachings of the Koran which come from "Allah" are in opposition to the teachings of that come from YHVH. The teachings of represent the true G'd. I would be more than happy to start a new thread on this subject to take a in depth look at this particular subject. If anyone wishes to take the time to do so please do not continue this discussion in this thread. Simply copy the pertinent posts and start a new thread. Shalom aleychem, Reuel |
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Post by Blake on Feb 17, 2005 2:50:20 GMT -8
"Dear brother, these kind of statements are scattered all throughout TeNaKh." Describing Allah? No. "I would respectively disagree. G-d fearing indicates obedience. Moslems reject , and not only add to it, but severely diminish from it." Then why don't you include, "May YHVH have victory of Theos!" for 95 percent of practicing Christians keep less of the than Moslems. They misquided and should be tought the truth with love and soft words. A Soft answer turneth away wrath, but greivous words stir up anger. "Actually, when one studies this out (as I have), the "Allah" of Mohammad was indeed one of the many pagan mighty ones that was selected by the Muslim prophet as the -only mighty one-. He was indeed the "Moon god". Take a look at the crescent on top of all the muslim buildings and mosques. Allah is clearly in no way, shape, or form equivalent to YHVH. The teachings of the Koran which come from "Allah" are in opposition to the teachings of that come from YHVH. The teachings of represent the true G'd. I would be more than happy to start a new thread on this subject to take a in depth look at this particular subject. If anyone wishes to take the time to do so please do not continue this discussion in this thread. Simply copy the pertinent posts and start a new thread." This is very similar to what Christians have done, almost a mirror of it but you do not deny that the Christian God is the same as yours... Why don't you? Al-Imran (The Family of Imran) Sura 3:3. It is He Who sent down to thee (step by step), in truth, the Book, confirming what went before it; and He sent down the Law (of Moses) and the Gospel (of Jesus) before this, as a guide to mankind, and He sent down the criterion (of judgment between right and wrong). - Koran |
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Post by R' Y'hoshua Moshe on Feb 17, 2005 11:36:26 GMT -8
Describing false gods…yes. Because we are currently dealing with the false god “Allah” (as this is the subject of the discussion). Yes this is true, except when correction is needed (Lev.19:7, Prov.9:8,Prov. 27:5, 1Ti.5:20, 2Ti.4:2, Tts 2:15). No doubt many of them teach a false gospel, but at least their scriptures are the same as mine which do reflect the true G’d. This is not the case with Islam. The context in which this should be viewed is that Islam considers the current (that we have) to be in error and that it was corrupted. This is also true for them in regards to the Brit Chadashah (New. Test.) writings. They have taken the liberty of re-writing it to their liking. Although, this make sense because Mohammad was illiterate and pieced together the very little that he knew and through his followers writing down his sayings on everything imaginable (bones, rocks, leaves ect.) we have the Koran! In other words, they are not speaking about the word of G’d. Please, further discussion on this issue needs to be in it’s own thread. If you wish to continue please copy the existing conversation about Islam and start a new thread. This thread is about the article first mentioned in this thread. It is about the PLO finally be designated by our government as a Terrorist organization. This thread has become side-tracked. Please, any further comments need to be on topic. Shalom, Reuel |
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