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Post by R' Y'hoshua Moshe on May 18, 2004 11:41:12 GMT -8
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Angel
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"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge..." Hosea 4:6
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Post by Angel on Jun 21, 2004 19:28:30 GMT -8
Aren't these the same religious organizations that are promoting homosexuality in church? Allowing homosexuals to become bishops and pastors? offering to perform marriage ceremonies for them?
Perhaps this is just MORE proof of our need (as believers of Yeshua, guided by the truth of His Word and the Ruach HaKodesh) to pray AGAINST the false-spirits of Religion that are taking over our churches!
Their "pro-choice" stands: for abortion rights, for homosexual marriage rights, for tolerance of "all faiths" (oh- gee - except the TRUE Judeo/Christian faith!)
When will G-d's people stand up and SHOUT to our "church leaders", our law-makers, our courts: "WE ARE THE PEOPLE!!! WE, THE PEOPLE, WANT THIS TO BE 'ONE NATION UNDER G-D'!!" and mean it!
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Post by R' Y'hoshua Moshe on Jun 22, 2004 12:11:04 GMT -8
We have a huge responsibility not only to live righteous lives, and to keep our officials accountable, but to pray fervently for them.
Dear Heavenly Father, may you draw the leaders of this country to your truth, and may they be your servants to do your good, and perfect will. O Adonai, protect your children!
B'Shem Yeshua,
Reuel
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Yochanah
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Post by Yochanah on Jun 29, 2004 13:46:09 GMT -8
Shalom Psalm 122.6, This is very distressing but not unexpected. While it is hard to take sometimes, when seeing the abominable things that are taking place in the church we must keep in mind how Yeshua, our Blessed Example, took it in His day. He never got involved with politic, but said pray for your leaders. Under this same topic of current events I posted a rather lenghty, please forgive me for not breaking it up into smaller sections, article on Today and Matthew 24. And I apolize in advance for sounding so authoritive. I don't profess to be anything but when our Almighty Father gives me a message I am compelled to give it. May it bless you in your understandings of what is going on and why. It ties in with your post here and that is why I suggest you take a look. Another thing to keep in mind is that only those who do "sigh and cry" for these abominations will receive the seal of the Most High Yah, blessed be His name, Ezekiel 9:5-7. Ahavah, Yochanah
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Post by R' Y'hoshua Moshe on Jun 29, 2004 14:15:13 GMT -8
Shalom beloved sister,
In regards to politics, and religion....I don't know...I think that it just depends on how you look at it. I think that the Biblical men of the past have not only made political statements, but have been involved in the politics of the nation in which they find themselves. Yeshua Himself made the following political statement...
"Then went the Pharisees, and took counsel how they might entangle him in his talk. And they sent out unto him their disciples with the Herodians, saying, Master, we know that thou art true, and teachest the way of G'd in truth, neither carest thou for any man: for thou regardest not the person of men. Tell us therefore, What thinkest thou? Is it lawful to give tribute unto Caesar, or not? But Jesus perceived their wickedness, and said, Why tempt ye me, ye hypocrites? Shew me the tribute money. And they brought unto him a penny. And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription? They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto G'd the things that are G-d's." - Matthew 22:15-21
I believe this conversation, and Yeshua's answer certainly had political ramifications. I also see that Yeshua in many cases got into political debates with many of the Jewish ruling authority of His time. And, what about Yochanan (John) The Immerser (Baptist) whom was described as one of the most righteous men whom lived on the face of the planet when he contended with the ruling authority of his time, and as a result had his head removed by that same authority? Or, what of Moshe whom contended with the political authority, and wrong doing of Pharoah of Egypt? There are many other such examples of this in the scriptures. I would say that because we are citizens of another Kingdom, we should actively advance the commandments, ordinances, and statutes of The Kingdom of Heaven where ever we are.
Just my thoughts,
Shalom,
Reuel
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Yochanah
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Post by Yochanah on Jun 29, 2004 15:57:39 GMT -8
Thank you and Elohim be praise, my dear brother for that reproof. My comments were too broad. There are times when we must make a stand for truth and surely each of us will stand before leaders and magistrates to make known the reason of our faith. I was thinking more on the lines of those which feel it their duty to publicly protest these things that are taking place. It may seem a noble cause...and some may even be called to do this...I don't think this is what most of us are called to do. While our Righteous Redeemer did hold constructional conversation with them, He didn't take part in protests. He simply stated the truth regardless of where He was or what the issue was. And I beleive we are to do the same, when it is placed before us but we are not to set out to right the injustices of this world was my meaning. Please forgive me for being vague. Love, Yochanah
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