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Post by Blake on Oct 4, 2006 20:50:41 GMT -8
Through much prayer and study on my own and with the local Chabad Rabbi I have come to the conclusion that Mashiakh has not yet revealed himself.
Orthodox Judaism is the path that I believe that G-d has set forth for me to follow.
I thank everyone here for our discussions and fellowship, but it's not right that I continue to be a part of this community.
If it was not for this group I would not have learned nearly as much about Judaism and I thank everyone here for that. This place was a major stepping stone on my path.
Goodbye to all my friends here, and my prayers will remain with you all.
-Livni Ben Avrahem, formally Blake Winn.
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Post by Mark on Oct 5, 2006 7:20:49 GMT -8
Hi Blake,
Without question, you are sure to know that your decision is a disappointment. At the same time, I must also admit that it is not a suprise. With the level of frustration you hold toward the Christian faith and all of the things that distinguish it as such, it really left you with no inevitable choice. I'd love to offer you some material via e-mail which may challenge your decision; but it really seems your mind is completely made up at this point, and the last thing you need is conflicting positions to shadow your walk. I would ask that you not forget us. Pop in from time to time and say "Howdy."
But mostly, don't completely write off Yeshua as Messiah, so as to say, "...been there, done that." The Scriptures are vast in depth and none of us pretend to understand the greater portions of it. Please revisit the question from time to time as you grow and walk in your faith. If Yeshua is Messiah, He will reveal Himself to those truly seeking truth. If He is not, the evidence fo Scripture will also speak for itself. You cannot but be the wiser for the pursuit of honest truth.
Mark
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Post by Nachshon on Oct 5, 2006 8:13:49 GMT -8
Blake, I'll certainly miss seeing you around. Feel free to keep coming to the other forum. At times our top posters were atheists and gnostics. We'll take you as you come, no questions asked. <G>
Shalom,
David
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Post by Chizuk Emunah on Oct 5, 2006 12:52:20 GMT -8
Well I certainly echo Mark's sentiments. You are always welcome here Blake, so don't be a stranger.
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Post by Yitzchak on Oct 6, 2006 20:47:10 GMT -8
It saddens me to see you go. While I am sure you believe you are going the right way, please consider the remarks made by Mark.
I wish you well, and hope to see you here from time to time.
Shalom,
Yitzchak
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Post by R' Y'hoshua Moshe on Oct 10, 2006 21:49:40 GMT -8
Shalom Blake, Even though it is not the first time I have seen this happen to a Messianic brother, it is the first time I have seen it happen on this forum. It is amazing how small a non-Messianic Rabbi can make your belief in Yeshua feel when they have devised arguments over the last two thousand years to counter most of anything you could think of. But, the arguments are not valid. They are their best attempts to invalidate the true Messiah. Have you thought of visiting your local Messianic Rabbi to hear his rebuttal to the claims of the local Chabad Rabbi? Have you ever listened to Dr. Michael Brown's commentaries as found at this link? www.realmessiah.com/resources.htmHe has successfully debated and refuted the very same arguments presented to you by your Chabad Rabbi. I understand you want to be apart of something that is organized and holy, something that you cannot find where ever you are. But, this doesn't mean that you must convert to Orthodox Judaism. Like Mark said, I understand your frustration with Christianity and where it has driven you. But, if you are truly interested in the truth and you don't want to kick yourself on judgment day, you may want to check out the resources that I mentioned to you. Shalom aleychem, Reuel |
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Post by Blake on Oct 10, 2006 22:13:43 GMT -8
Reuel this isn't a desion I came too lightly, and just because of of my Chabad Rabbi. In fact, after many attempts on my part he excepted for conversion even while I held the belief that Yeshu was the Mashiakh. He never presented me with arguments why he was not as I made it clear I did not believe him to be G-d or except the NT. (These are two things I've believed for a very long time) and it wasn't until I began studying in earnest the  and Talmud that I came to the decision. Completely on my own volition, the Rabbi only answered my questions and allowed me use of the library at the Chabad Center. I research the website you listed however, but nothing would be keep me from converting. For the first time in my life I feel spiritually fulfilled. |
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Post by R' Y'hoshua Moshe on Oct 11, 2006 20:19:38 GMT -8
Dear Blake, You are young and I hope you will be given time to reconsider your rejection of He whom the commands you to give ear and obey. Sin has it's pleasure for a season. Shalom aleychem, Reuel |
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and Talmud that I came to the decision. Completely on my own volition, the Rabbi only answered my questions and allowed me use of the library at the Chabad Center.
