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Post by mystic on Nov 1, 2021 3:11:10 GMT -8
Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God.
Does this mean anyone who doesn't seek peace is not a child of God?
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Post by jimmie on Nov 1, 2021 8:51:26 GMT -8
No. It just means they are not a productive child of God. Thus they should have reason to a self evaluation of their standing with the LORD.
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Post by mosheli on Nov 1, 2021 17:37:39 GMT -8
This verse is very similar "Yhwh bless you, and keep you. Yhwh make his face to shine on you, and be gracious to you. Yhwh lift up his face toward you, and give you peace. So they shall put my name on the children of Israel; and I will bless them." 6:24-27.
"I am of those who are peaceable and faithful in Israel" 20:19.
"Mark the perfect man, and see the upright, for there is a future for the man of peace" 37:37.
"Those who love your law have great peace" Psalm 119:165.
"Deceit is in the heart of those who plot evil, but joy comes to the promoters of peace" 12:20.
"All your children shall be taught of YHWH; and great shall be the peace of your children" 54:13.
Yes if someone is a perfect true child of God they would be "peacemakers" and the other blesseds. Though none of us is perfect. Yeshua/Jesus is the key, and he was a peacemaker, he never made war/conflict etc, though he did speak out against wrongs/evils.
A child/son of God is someone born of God/spirit (through Jesus/Cross), or seed of.
"peaceful fruit of righteousness" 12:11.
I wonder if the word for peace in Hebrew would be shalom (or Salem or Solomon)? Shalom means alot more than just peace. Making peace with God and man? "Peace and goodwill toward all men" Luke 2:14, (compare 19:38, 42), "he will speak peace to the nations" Zech 9:10? Acts 7:26. Good news of peace 10:36 & 10:15 & 6:15, the way of peace 3:17. Peace from God Romans 1:7, & Colossians 1:2, 1 Thess 1:1, 2 Thess 1:2. "The God of peace" 16:20 & 4:9, 5:23, 13:20, "Lord of Peace" 3:16, "Prince of Peace" 9:6. God has called us in peace 7:15. "So then, let us follow after things which make for peace" 14:19. "The God of love and peace will be with you" 13:11. "he is our peace" Ephesians 2:14.
"having abolished in the flesh the hostility, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, that he might create in himself one new man of the two, making peace" Ephesians 2:14-15. "He came and preached peace to you who were far off and to those who were near" Ephesians 2:17.
"Peace of God" 4:7, 3:15. "having made peace through the blood of his cross" Colossians 1:20.
"Now may the Lord of peace himself give you peace at all times in all ways" 3:16.
"But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceful, gentle, reasonable, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy. Now the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace" 3:17-18.
"Let him seek peace, and pursue it" 3:11. "be diligent to be found in peace" 3:14.
"peace offerings"?
"I will give peace in the land" 26:6.
"my covenant of peace" 25:12.
"... that he bless himself in his heart, saying, I shall have peace, though I walk in the stubbornness of my heart..." 29:19.
"but to David, and to his seed, and to his house, and to his throne, shall there be peace for ever from YHWH."
"YHWH will bless his people with peace" Psalm 29:11.
"Depart from evil, and do good. seek peace, and pursue it" 34:14.
"But the humble shall inherit the land, and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace" 37:11.
"He has redeemed my soul in peace from the battle that was against me" 55:18.
"In his days, the righteous shall flourish, and abundance of peace, until the moon is no more" 72:7.
"I will hear what God, YHWH, will speak, for he will speak peace to his people, his saints" 85:8.
"Righteousness and peace have kissed each other" 85:10.
"He makes peace in your borders" 147:14.
"All her paths are peace" Prov 3:17.
"The life of the body is a heart at peace, but envy rots the bones" 14:30.
"When a man's ways please YHWH, he makes even his enemies to be at peace with him" 16:7.
"Of the increase of his government and of peace there shall be no end, on the throne of David, and on his kingdom" 9:7.
"You will keep whoever's mind is steadfast in perfect peace, because he trusts in you" 26:3.
"Yhwh, you will ordain peace for us" 26:12. "Let him make peace with me" 27:5.
"The work of righteousness will be peace" 32:17. "I (the Lord) make peace" 45:7.
"Oh that you had listened to my commandments! then had your peace been as a river" 48:18.
"There is no peace, says YHWH, to the wicked" 48:22, 57:21.
"How beautiful on the mountains are the feet of him who brings good news, who publishes peace, who brings good news of good, who publishes salvation" 52:17. "The punishment that brought our peace was on him; and by his wounds we are healed" 53:5. "covenant of peace" 54:10, 34:25, 37:26, Malachai 2:5.
"Peace, peace, to him who is far off and to him who is near, says YHWH; and I will heal him" 57:19.
"For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, says YHWH, thoughts of peace, and not of evil" 29:11.
"Behold, on the mountains the feet of him who brings good news, who publishes peace!" Nahum 1:15.
"If it is possible, as much as it is up to you, be at peace with all men" 12:18. "Follow after peace with all men, and the sanctification without which no man will see the Lord" 12:14. "live in peace" 13:11. "Be at peace among yourselves" 5:13.
"Flee from youthful lusts; but pursue righteousness, faith, love, and peace with those who call on the Lord out of a pure heart." 2:22.
"for there is peace to you and no hurt" 20:21.
"Is it peace, Jehu? He answered, What peace, so long as the prostitution of your mother Jezebel and her witchcraft abound?" 9:22.
"if I have rewarded evil to him who was at peace with me" Psalm 7:4.
"the workers of iniquity who speak peace with their neighbors, but mischief is in their hearts" Psalm 28:3.
"For they don't speak peace, but they devise deceitful words against those who are quiet in the land" 35:20.
"My soul has had her dwelling too long with him who hates peace. I am for peace, but when I speak, they are for war" Psalm 120:6.
"Seek the peace of the city where I have caused you to be carried away captive, and pray to YHWH for it; for in the peace of it shall you have peace" 29:7.
"The animals of the field shall be at peace with you. You shall know that your tent is in peace" 5:23-24.
"He makes peace in his high places" Job 25:2.
"In peace I will both lay myself down and sleep, for you, YHWH alone, make me live in safety" Psalm 4:8.
Often this world claims to be for "peace" (compare Acts 24:2, compare Absalom/Ahithophel) but it is fake. (Compare also Islam/Muslim related to shalom but different meaning of submission".) "They make a desert and they call it peace (pax)" - British chieftain. "Those who destroy the Earth" - Bible. Cain vs Abel. "Good and evil can not co-exist". "Under a good king the peasants rejoice". "Peace I give/leave you, not as the world gives" - Jesus/Yeshua. "Have salt in yourselves, and be at peace with one another." "to guide our feet into the way of peace" Luke 1:79.
"The way of peace they don't know; and there is no justice in their goings" 59:8. "one speaks peaceably to his neighbor with his mouth, but in his heart he lays wait for him" 9:8. "they have seduced my people, saying, Peace; and there is no peace" 13:10. "Execute the judgment of truth and peace in your gates" 8:16.
"Do therefore according to your wisdom, and don't let his gray head go down to Sheol in peace." 2:6
"Don't think that I came to send peace on the earth. I didn't come to send peace, but a sword." 10:43, 12:51. "You shall not seek their peace nor their prosperity all your days forever" 23:6. "now therefore don't give your daughters to their sons, neither take their daughters to your sons, nor seek their peace or their prosperity forever" 9:12.
"Pray for the peace of Jerusalem" 122:6. "Peace be on Israel" Psalm 125:5, 128:6.
"I saw, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them" Dan 7:21, 25, and "It was given to him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them." Revelation 13:7. (Though "These will war against the Lamb, and the Lamb will overcome them" 17:14.)
"For when they are saying, "Peace and safety," then sudden destruction will come on them" 5:3.
"Destruction comes; and they shall seek peace, and there shall be none" 7:25.
(I'm not doing so well myself because of long-ongoing numerous constant daily mean cruel hell wrongs. Any prayers or advice/support/help/encouragement anyone can spare may help.)
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Post by mystic on Nov 2, 2021 2:50:52 GMT -8
Appreciate the info and insights guys!
p.s. Moshelli, please check your messages, thx.
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Post by alon on Nov 12, 2021 15:13:18 GMT -8
Appreciate the info and insights guys! p.s. Moshelli, please check your messages, thx.
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Post by mosheli on Nov 12, 2021 19:29:28 GMT -8
It was just mystic PMing me about my comment at the end that I am not doing so well myself. But thanks for warning about PM pirates. I had a JW PMing me and others on another history forum. They didn't bother me much because they didn't post anything really bad, but some others disliked it. I gave some reasons why I disagreed with some points and they gave up. I'm on a few messianic/christian forums myself and I don't know if I have all right beliefs, but I don't secretly prey on people like that. Sorry for brief off topic. Good to see you back, it was worrying something bad had happened. (Mystic briefly mentioned reason in PM when I said I hope nothing had happened to you.)
PS is mystic and Jimmie the same or different, since they have the same "Talmid haTorah"?
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Post by alon on Nov 12, 2021 20:42:12 GMT -8
It was just mystic PMing me about my comment at the end that I am not doing so well myself. But thanks for warning about PM pirates. I had a JW PMing me and others on another history forum. They didn't bother me much because they didn't post anything really bad, but some others disliked it. I gave some reasons why I disagreed with some points and they gave up. I'm on a few messianic/christian forums myself and I don't know if I have all right beliefs, but I don't secretly prey on people like that. Sorry for brief off topic. Good to see you back, it was worrying something bad had happened. (Mystic briefly mentioned reason in PM when I said I hope nothing had happened to you.) PS is mystic and Jimmie the same or different, since they have the same "Talmid haTorah"?
LOL, Covid brain I suppose, but I will have to retrain! I'll have to figure out how I turned off the PM function in the first place! The joys of this disease just never cease ... .
As far as I know there are no posters with double identities here.The "Talmid Ha'Torah" refers to their being senior posters, which really means they have a high post count. That is another thing I like about the group here: no one does inane or meaningless posts just to raise their count. I do a lot, but I hope mime are meaningful. After this though I think I have learned I need to back off and give others chance. Really, some of your replies as a group were very good during my enforced absence. Just another blessing and a lesson in all this. God is good! Baruch Ha'Shem!
PS: according to the Admin panel PM's should be off. Please let me know if anyone gets any more, other than from admin. Thanks.
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