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Post by Frank T. Clark on Aug 12, 2004 13:18:57 GMT -8
I have heard some teachings and read some texts that seem to indicate the first day of the month is a type of sabbath just as in the weekly sabbath and the annual sabbaths there is a monthly sabbath.
Does anyone have some information that can shed some light on this idea?
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Post by The 614th Mitzvot on Aug 13, 2004 6:05:10 GMT -8
The new day of the month is not a Shabbat, but is celebrated on Shabbat. We can still work on the first day of the month, but on Shabbat, near the end, I go outside and we pray facing the moon. This is basically thanking G-d for restoring the moon and giving us a new month.
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Post by R' Y'hoshua Moshe on Aug 13, 2004 13:55:08 GMT -8
I believe Rosh Chodesh is to be observed (which I do), but it is not a shabbat. I know a few misguided individuals that set the seven day cycle from when they -think- the new moon begins. But, this never results in complete seven day cycles as scripture requires. So basically the seven day cycle is different each month. Essentially, these individuals rule their lives by the moon. I have spent some time studying this subject, and there is much more to cover. But, the conclusion of the matter is that it is a false system of worship, in which HaSatan get's us to break the real Shabbat. Shabbat Shalom (on the real Sabbath), Reuel
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Post by messimom on Jul 22, 2005 20:47:20 GMT -8
I know its been a while since this post has been active but I came across it tonight and have had some questions concerning the Roch Chodesh for a while. Everything I have read really says we should reckognize the monthly new moon(including the ) but I haven't been able to find ANYWHERE what this entails. How do we observe it? What is the history and tradition surrounding it? And also, why do we suppose YHVH commanded that we observe the New Moon as we should sabbaths and other Moedim? A very interesting subject to me with very elusive answers.... Thank you for your input!! Messimom
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Post by R' Y'hoshua Moshe on Jul 22, 2005 21:19:31 GMT -8
It is to be observed by sighting the New Moon and blowing the shofar, but it does not say that it is a Sabbath. It is listed with the other moedim because it is within the context of the seasons (Moedim) which are to be observed. For example, usually we will get together for fellowship on the evening of Rosh Chodesh try to site the moon if it is actually visable, but nonetheless will shound the shofar. We will usually include a blessing and prayer. If we wish to further discuss in more detail how it is to be observed we should move the discussion to "Practical Observance". Shalom achoit, Reuel
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Post by messimom on Jul 22, 2005 21:25:03 GMT -8
Yes, I've never seen that it is to be observed as a sabbath, I'm just interested in the background of Rosh Chodesh and what not. I would like to continue and learn in the other discussion of Pratical Observance. thank you and Shabbat Shalom Messimom
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Post by alon on Jan 7, 2014 0:48:06 GMT -8
I have heard some teachings and read some texts that seem to indicate the first day of the month is a type of sabbath just as in the weekly sabbath and the annual sabbaths there is a monthly sabbath. ... I believe Rosh Chodesh is to be observed (which I do), but it is not a shabbat. I know a few misguided individuals that set the seven day cycle from when they -think- the new moon begins. But, this never results in complete seven day cycles as scripture requires. So basically the seven day cycle is different each month. Essentially, these individuals rule their lives by the moon. ... it is a false system of worship, in which HaSatan get's us to break the real Shabbat. ... It is to be observed by sighting the New Moon and blowing the shofar, ... usually we will get together for fellowship on the evening of Rosh Chodesh try to site the moon if it is actually visable, but nonetheless will shound the shofar. ... I just have a few questions, so I didn't move the discussion (wouldn't that be an admin function anyhow?) Frank, can you cite your sources? I've heard that there are "Sabbaths" where you may work, but they have a name and I can't remember it; sorry. Rabbi Reuel, who blows the shofar? And what (if any) is the prescribed manner? (How many blasts; how long; different tones/notes ... ) Since it's the siting of the New Moon in Jerusalem that matters, why go out and look at the moon here? I agree about the people who reset the weekly calendar being wrong. Sounds like moonie-idolitry. There's nothing I've seen in scripture that says to do that; and I know of no Jewish sects who do it (not that I'm an expert ...). However I'm not familiar with the monthly observance for Rosh Chodesh either. Dan C
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Post by Frank T. Clark on Jan 11, 2014 12:13:33 GMT -8
I am having trouble finding active threads so I didn't see this. My original post was 9 years ago so I don't remember where I was reading teachings about New Moon observance. I am now quite familiar with (and reject) what I call "lunacism" corrupting the weekly cycle. I do remember I was pondering certain verses.
Isa 66:23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.
Eze 46:1 Thus saith the Lord GOD; The gate of the inner court that looketh toward the east shall be shut the six working days; but on the sabbath it shall be opened, and in the day of the new moon it shall be opened.
Eze 46:6 And in the day of the new moon it shall be a young bullock without blemish, and six lambs, and a ram: they shall be without blemish.
Amo 8:5 Saying, When will the new moon be gone, that we may sell corn? and the sabbath, that we may set forth wheat, making the ephah small, and the shekel great, and falsifying the balances by deceit?
1Sa 20:5 And David said unto Jonathan, Behold, to morrow is the new moon, and I should not fail to sit with the king at meat: but let me go, that I may hide myself in the field unto the third day at even.
This indicates some kind of ceremonial recognition of the new moon.
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