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Post by Elizabeth on Jul 7, 2019 5:37:03 GMT -8
Welcome to the forum mosheli.
My view is more in line with your first description. I think you're likely right in that Yeshua probably dealt with feelings just like everyone else does, and so at some point in in His life would have wrestled with wanting a family. But that gets into other issues as He was also completely divine, so though He was likely tempted in ways we could never imagine to somehow thwart His purpose in life, it's not something He missed out on as it just wasn't His calling to have an earthly family.
He discussed that His family is those who do His Father's will in Mathew 12. Maybe that's one way He would have come to terms with not having a more earthly role as a Father.
One passage that I think is particularly comforting regarding this concern is Isaiah 53. Yeshua has had many children when you look at it from that perspective, and many more yet to be born as it speaks of in Psalm 22. That's pretty amazing, and I personally find a lot of joy in that.
You must have a good heart to be so concerned for Him, and to think about and feel for His life that way.
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Post by jimmie on Jul 8, 2019 14:17:42 GMT -8
(2. Fig is type of male private part, My understanding of a fig is that there are male and female flowers are inside of the fruit. Can you provide more information regarding a fig being a type of male private part? |
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Post by mosheli on Jul 9, 2019 13:54:44 GMT -8
Interesting thankyou. Yes there are analogies of body foods with parts of the bodies they look like:
figs - male private part
grapes - blood
onions - cells/skin
celery - bones
carrots - eyes
tomatoes - heart
citris fruit - breast
walnuts - brain
kidney beans - kidneys
milk - teeth
They do happen to have stuff in them good for the parts.
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Post by jimmie on Jul 9, 2019 14:18:49 GMT -8
It took me a few minutes to make the connection between carrots-eyes and citris fruit-breast. You have to cut the fruit to see it.
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Post by alon on Jul 9, 2019 16:31:12 GMT -8
Interesting thankyou. Yes there are analogies of body foods with parts of the bodies they look like: figs - male private part grapes - blood onions - cells/skin celery - bones carrots - eyes tomatoes - heart citris fruit - breast milk - teeth They do happen to have stuff in them good for the parts. Do you have references whee these were used in the Bible or other Hebraic religious documents? I know the Bible talks a lot about fruit, but I don't remember all those specifically. Perhaps in the Song of Solomon? Dan C |
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Post by mosheli on Jul 9, 2019 20:20:59 GMT -8
Hmm good point i didn't think of that.
I only know so far before checking that figs and vine seem to be subtly hinted at as male and female in Ecclesiates? and/or prophecy.
He also made herbs and trees fruits etc in Genesis 1-2 for health/healing. Tree of life has 12 fruits in Revelation/Apocalypse 22.
Winepress = blood.
Bread and wine = body and blood.
Land of milk and honey connected with teeth?
Beast has lions teeth & bears paws can = fluoridated water and sugary food (paws). (Lions mouth also English/IE language?)
I don't have my books here in hospital but Oxford bible concordance lists all trees and veges mentioned in bible.
But Adonai/Yhwh/El/G-d/Hashem/Creator did make all Creation so it doesn't have to be in the bible. Maybe it is also in bible skip code since in Genesis 1 or 2 they say a dozen or so trees/plants were found encoded there. Amazing he created analogous body foods.
The ones i listed some are only one of more than one in a group of similar too.
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Post by mosheli on Jul 10, 2019 12:10:00 GMT -8
Back on topic these are all the references to fig trees or figs i could find in the word/scriptures/bible/tanach:
Genesis/Bereshith 3:7 made aprons of fig leaves (type of works)
Deut 8:8 land of vines & fig trees
Numbers 13:23 spies see grapes and figs
Numbers 20:5 no figs or vines wilderness
Judges 9:10 Jotham's parable
1 Samuel 25:18 Abigail made fig cakes
1 Samuel 30:12 gave Egyptian fig cake
1 Kings 4:25, 2 Kings 18:31 everyman vine & fig tree
2 Kings 20:7, Isaiah 38:21 fig cake on boil
1 Chronicles 12:40 brought fig cakes etc
Nehemiah 13:15
Psalms 105:33 struck their vines & fig trees
Prov 27:18 whoever tends fig tree shall eat its fruit
Song of Sol 2:13 fig tree ripens
8:13 no grapes nor figs
Isaiah 9:10 sycamore fig trees have been cut down
Isaiah 34:4 as a leaf fades off a vine or fig tree
Isaiah 36:16 each his vine and fig tree
Jer 5:17 shall eat up your vines and fig trees
Jer 8:13 no grapes on vine nor figs on fig tree *
Jer 24:1-8 Jeremiah sees two baskets of figs before temple
Jeremiah 29:17 vile figs
Hosea 2:12 lay waste her vines and fig trees
Hosea 9:10 the first ripe in the fig tree at its first season *
Joel 1:7, 12 laid my vine waste, stripped my fig tree
Joel 2:22 fig & vine yield their strength
Amos 4:9 struck your vine yards and fig trees
Amos 7:14 sycamore figs
Micah 4:4 everyman his vine and fig tree
Nahum 3:12 fortresses like fig trees
Habbakuk 3:17 though the fig tree doesn't fluorish *
Haggai 2:19 the vine, the fig tree... haven't brought forth ... *
Zech 3:10 will invite everyman his neighbor under the vine & under the fig
Judith 10:5
1 Macc 14:12 everyone own fig & vine
Matt 7:6, Mark 6:44 figs from thorns/thistles
Matt 21:19-21, Mark 11:13-21 cursed fig tree
Matt 24:32, Mark 13:28, Luke 21:30 parable fig tree 1
Luke 13:6-9 parable fig tree 2
Luke 3:12 can fig yield olives, can vine yield figs
John 1:48-50 saw Nathanael under fig tree
Rev 6:13 fig tree shaken
One other possibility is the fig leaves aprons as type of works, so the parable a type of trying to be saved by works alone cursed?
Maybe wine is a type of the spirit too as well as the blood?
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Post by jimmie on Jul 10, 2019 13:28:23 GMT -8
Sycomore is a type of fig tree so you can add the following:
1 Kings 10:27 And the king made silver to be in Jerusalem as stones, and cedars made he to be as the sycomore trees that are in the vale, for abundance.
1 Chronicles 27:28 And over the olive trees and the sycomore trees that were in the low plains was Baalhanan the Gederite: and over the cellars of oil was Joash:
2 Chronicles 1:15 And the king made silver and gold at Jerusalem as plenteous as stones, and cedar trees made he as the sycomore trees that are in the vale for abundance.
2 Chronicles 9:27 And the king made silver in Jerusalem as stones, and cedar trees made he as the sycomore trees that are in the low plains in abundance.
Psalms 78:47 He destroyed their vines with hail, and their sycomore trees with frost.
Isaiah 9:10 The bricks are fallen down, but we will build with hewn stones: the sycomores are cut down, but we will change them into cedars.
Amos 7:1 Then answered Amos, and said to Amaziah, I was no prophet, neither was I a prophet's son; but I was an herdman, and a gatherer of sycomore fruit:
Luke 19: And he ran before, and climbed up into a sycomore tree to see him: for he was to pass that way.
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