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Post by R' Y'hoshua Moshe on Mar 22, 2004 17:55:32 GMT -8
Pesach (Passover)!
When, how, and where are you doing it?
Shalom,
Reuel
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Post by R' Y'hoshua Moshe on Mar 30, 2004 17:35:03 GMT -8
We celebrate Pesach one day earlier than traditional Judaism because this is what Yeshua did too. Much of Judaism celebrates the 1st day of Unleavened bread (which is a Shabbat) on the same day as Passover. This is clearly a violation of  , and tradition of man that we shy away from. Passover is the day before the first day of Unleavened bread.... "In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the YHVH'S passover. And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto YHVH: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread. In the first day ye shall have an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein. But ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto YHVH seven days: in the seventh day is an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein." Leviticus 23:5-8 As we can see they are two seperate days, not to be celebrated on the same day. Shalom, Reuel |
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Post by R' Y'hoshua Moshe on Apr 5, 2004 9:43:44 GMT -8
Chag Pesach Sameach - Happy Passover!
Last night our congregation (Kehilat HaBekor) had our best Pesach yet! We had about 180 people celebrating in rememberance of Yeshua HaMashiach! Their was singing, dancing, great fellowship, a beautiful seder meal, and most importantly a rededication to Adonai (YHVH) in our hearts for what Yeshua His Mashiach has delivered us from!
Baruch Hashem!!
Reuel
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Post by Jessica on Apr 5, 2004 10:32:26 GMT -8
This year Passover was more meaningful to me , I am still trying to grasp why. I think that the LORD has been doing such a mighty work in my life leading up to this wonderful feast . I felt so close to HIM sitting at the table, partaking with 179 other people in HIS HOLY feast , which is such a wonderful reminder of how HE has brought us out of our personal Egypt. There is a part where we take the middle matza out of the three compartment matza holder, and the middle matza which signifies Yeshua is broken and wrapped in a linen cloth and hidden for the children to find later. Tears came to eyes when I heard that matza being broken, broken for us, broken for me. May I never loose this sence of awe.
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Post by Yochanah on Apr 18, 2004 17:53:30 GMT -8
We celebrated Passover with our family this year. What a blessing! Our two local daughters came with their families for the first time. Praise YHWH! It was His work! We held a Christian Sedar to remember the awesome miracles of YHWH and how He delivers us out of our sins. But we celebrate without the lamb because The Sacrificial Lamb dwells in us, [John 14:19]. When we are more organized we would like to follow the Sedar with the Foot Washing Ordinance of Humility, "Then if I, Master and Teacher, have washed your feet, you also ought to wash one another's feet." [John 13:14] We closed with the Communion Service, "After the same manner also He took the cup, when He had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in My blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of Me. [26] For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Master's death till He come. 1 Cor. 11:25-26 We tried to make the whole service as meaningful for the children and grandchildren as possible and all were blessed. Two of our family members are now studying the with us and two of the grandchildren want to be observant. Praise Yeshua our Blessed Redeemer for what He did and is doing for us. HalleluYah! We follow Scriptural instruction on when to have Passover and the following Feasts. Blessings to all! |
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Post by R' Y'hoshua Moshe on Apr 19, 2004 9:02:22 GMT -8
Yochanah, Praise Yah! This is awesome to hear that your family is falling in love with the Father's . We also don't eat lamb on this feast as it would be a transgression of to actually sacrifice the Pesach lamb without the temple, and the priesthood. We commemorate the lamb with a shank bone. And, of course we commemorate the Lamb of Elohim with the whole seder. B'Shem Yeshua, Reuel |
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Post by Frank T. Clark on Jun 23, 2004 10:29:33 GMT -8
Please forgive the confusion of a poor Gentile. The Passover is celebrated the 14th day at even. Since the day begins at even isn't this then the 15th day? If this refers to the even the day before the 15th when did the jewish observance change. I suppose none of you are historians to be able to answer that question. In Yeshua's day did the Jewish people all celebrate the same day He did or a day later? I celebrated Passover with a group of Christians who are trying to follow the in spite of all the confusion. These Christians are being pushed out of their home churches for their beliefs. |
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Post by R' Y'hoshua Moshe on Jun 23, 2004 11:12:45 GMT -8
The Hebrew calendar, and the Roman calendar are different in that the Hebrew/Biblical days are figured from sundown to sundown. Therefore, all biblical feasts start the evening before. So really, the 14th of Nisan starts the evening before in the Western mindset. This has been a several thousand-year debate, and yes the different sects of Judaism (during Mashiach's last time on Earth) celebrated some of the moedim including Pesach on different days. A good example of this would be the differences in which the Sadducees, and Pharisees celebrated some of the moedim. What we see today in Judaism is mainly representative of Pharisiac Judaism thought, and teachings.
B'Shem Yeshua,
Reuel
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Post by Yochanah on Jun 23, 2004 18:57:13 GMT -8
Shalom my brothers. Please tell me, why is it, when the is so clear and so simple, that the timing of the Feasts according to Jewish reckoning is so complicated? Why has there been such confusion? Ahavah, Yochanah |
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Post by R' Y'hoshua Moshe on Jun 23, 2004 20:52:30 GMT -8
I think some of it has to do with the traditions of men overiding the commandments of G'd, confusion on the meaning of some texts, and HaSatan have a lot to do with it.
Shalom Yochanah,
Reuel
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Post by Yochanah on Jun 24, 2004 6:04:02 GMT -8
Thank you Ach Reuel. Would it be safe to say that the best way to walk with Yah, blessed be His name, in perfect peace would be to follow His plain word, through contrite prayer, diligent study and trust in His leading, rather than to follow the teachings of men, as well intentioned as they may be? I keep in mind the saying, "Scripture and Scripture only." "If it does not line up with Scripture there is no truth (the power of His Spirit) in it. Is this true? I get very concerned for my brothers and sisters that rely on any man written material aside from what is PROVEN to be inspired, instead of searching the Scriptures for themselves as Paul praised the Bereans for doing. Prophecy warns that the time is soon coming when there will be a famine in the land of the Word. Must we not take care to have secured the word in our hearts that we be not taken unawares? As were the five foolish virgins? If we spend all our time studying the words of man instead of the Word of Yah, blessed be His name, what will happen during that famine? If we have His Word in us He promises to bring to our memory the words as they are needed. But will He recall His Word if we did not take the time to follow His admonistions to read it? I wonder if we truly comprehend what it is meant by, "And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart: And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up." Deut. 6:6-7 Where we to follow this at all times our Blessed Machiach would come for His bride would He not? We can not teach what we do not know. His is the Ultimate book of love. If we do not know it we do not know the Author of Love. But when we know Him the teachings, through our examples AND our words, will be an admonishment to those around us. Those of like spirit will be encouraged and edified by the refreshing of His Word upon their hearts. We will become one in spirit and of one mind...then He will come. Is this not what we long for? May all His children diligently study His Word that they may know Yeshua, and Him that sent Him, our Elohim, Blessed be His name. Ahavah, Yochanah |
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Post by R' Y'hoshua Moshe on Jun 24, 2004 8:01:08 GMT -8
Amen, sister. When it comes to words having authority in our lives I would say that this is true. Although, I am sure that you would agree that there are many extra Biblical study helps that assist us in the understanding of our Father's most holy Word. I do pray that "The Church" would follow the plain words of the scripture, and not try to spiritualize everything away. It is simple; trust in YHVH, and His Messiah, and obey (all scripture)...there is no other way. Only if the churches, and congregations across the land would understand this, and apply this...rooting out the teachings of man, and establishing His in faith. Pray for the soon fulfillment of the following scripture... "And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of YHVH, to the house of the G'd of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the , and the word of YHVH from Jerusalem." - Isaiah 2:3 How precious will that day be! You know that during that time we will all be celebrating the moedim on the same days.  B'Shem Yeshua, Reuel |
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Post by Frank T. Clark on Jun 24, 2004 10:30:30 GMT -8
It seems like the time of that prophecy shall not be fulfilled until God brings the New Jerusalem down from heaven.
Then truly shall all confusion be cleared away.
Thruth doesn't seem like it will ever come from Jerusalem on this earth and neither will there be many that follow.
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Post by Yochanah on Jun 24, 2004 12:53:31 GMT -8
Amein! Brother Reuel, yes there are study "helps" and they are just that... helps...assistants, to bring a better understanding of the culture, historical climate, language, etc. that we would receive a broader picture of the Divine Word are they not? Will not all things come about as it is written? Praise His name, yes we can be assured of this! The time is soon at hand when all divine matters BEFORE Messiah returns, Acts 3:21, will be RESTORED. Question is what is a divine matter? Does this include the restored and once again destroyed Temple being restored in old Jerusalem? Or rather is it the precepts (Matthew 23:16-23) that the Temple stood for that will be restored? I agree, Brother Frank, that Zion is New Jerusalem desending from the clouds, "Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my Elohim, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my Elohim, and the name of the city of my Elohim, which is New Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my Elohim... Rev. 3:12
At Passover we do not sacrifice a lamb as in the old days of the earthly Temple, as it will happen once again IF they were able to rebuild, which would be to say that haMachiach died in vain. The Pascal Lamb was fulfilled by the Ultimate Sacrifice of the Lamb of Yah. What is His law but a transcript of His character! Unless done with meaning and purpose as a witness of Him, are any deeds and actions (rites and ceremonies), however good, worthwhile? Wasn't the old given as an example that we would understand the deeper meaning of these things? Shouldn't the sedar table of the post Messianic Passover be patterned after His example (John 13:1-17, Matthew 26:17-30) to His disciples at the Last Supper? Why do so few follow haMachiach's example? John 13:14-17
"If I then, your Lord and Master, have washed your feet; ye also ought to wash one another's feet. For I have given you an example, that ye should do as I have done to you. Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him. If ye know these things, happy are ye if ye do them."
There are great blessings to be found in following His example of humility toward one another. Why is it hardly done at Passover as haMachiach admonished us to do?
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Post by R' Y'hoshua Moshe on Jun 24, 2004 13:03:41 GMT -8
We shall see.... Yochanah, Amen to what you said, although I believe all of the moedim will remain intact during Messiah's soon coming reign. Shalom, Reuel
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, and tradition of man that we shy away from. Passover is the day before the first day of Unleavened bread....
