Post by Elizabeth on Jun 25, 2018 4:40:43 GMT -8
Again the devil took him up into an exceeding high mountain, and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; and said unto Him "All these things I will give You if You fall down and worship me."
Matthew 4:8-9
And Yeshua came and spoke unto them saying, "All authority under heaven and earth is given unto Me."
Matthew 28:18
Is Matthew 4 just an example of the devil lying? That's my first thought, but then I wonder if Yeshua's resurrection took something back from him that up until then satan may have had.
Honestly, I don't think I'll be convinced he had much of anything because Yeshua, the Creator of the world, already had this. It's just perverted satanic logic that amounts to distortion and confusion, and that's what the devil does. He tells us we don't have what G-d has already given us all the time, but maybe someone has more insight on thus passage than me and I need to understand it differently.
I have struggled with evil and trying to get away from it. Honestly, I don't see much scripturally to back up a lot of what I hear from Christianity. I just don't see scripture saying a lot of what they do about satan.
If you look at Yeshua's temptation in the desert, it came down to being offered choices. This is where the devil has sway but also where we have spiritual authority through the strength of Yeshua to act in faith.
It seems obvious. We choose how we act and what we believe, but think about it on a deeper level.
Meanwhile, we have a lot of garbage to sift through because a lot of things said about the devil in Christianity I personally don't see in scripture, and it seems to play into his game.
As followers of G-d, satan forces evil on us to the point we can feel like we have no choice. That plays out differently internally than externally, but it's pretty much boils down to emotional control which, in my case, then boils down to trusting G-d. Trusting G-d when you should shut-up and trusting G-d when you should speak. Seems so simple but is just hard.
Anyway, I thought Matthew 4 may be one place Christianity has drawn from regarding their idea about the devil's dominion but then Matthew 28 immediately came up. From there you see Yeshua's response which brings me to "....I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing, therefore choose life..." Deuteronomy 30:19
I have really struggled finding my spiritual voice lately which ties in somehow to my physical voice. That sounds silly, but it's hard to explain. It's like I'm trying to get to G-d but there's always an eves dropper lurking and meddling, everywhere I turn.
If Satan can shut you up he will, and he can do that spiritually if you let him. Then youre left fighting for faith when it feels everything G-d gave you to hold you together and keep faith is stolen or beyond your ability to keep. You can't pray. You can't meditate on scripture. You can't worship. That's where I ended up.
I really think our freedom of expression sometimes has to extend beyond the verbal or even emotional kind of communication we can do with G-d to choosing and acting. That's where Torah for me takes on an entirely greater significance, and it may be all you're left with at times to express yourself to G-d because satan wants to shut you up.
I never would have believed your soul can be shut up, but after what I've struggled through, I do. Your soul can be shut up if you depend on yourself to even just express yourself in prayer because more is happening internally than you can maintain. So the level of trust I have in G-d "hearing" me is being challenged because of the meddling voyeur I can't get away from. So now the act of doing has a higher purpose in overcoming spiritual limits that resulted from evil corruption. I think it's ultimately about balance, and my life isn't lending itself to that so I'm really struggling.
G-d holds the universe together but if you consider your internal self, there's a whole universe He holds together right there. He is the One holding you together, and we're not holding as much together as we feel or think.
As of my current understanding, I think the one place we have some sincere control is in our choices. Once you start letting that go, you will suffer a kind if internal chaos and spiritual degradation similar to what we see in the physical world. That's been my experience. I was deceived and my spiritual life corrupted by evil. The power they have is in confusion, but you know what? If the devil has so much say so and dominion as he wants us to believe, he wouldn't have to lie and sneak and hide.
Anyway, trying to get a handle on it through Christanity's understanding of satan and his role has made things worse I think. Unless I'm missing something, much of what people understand on this subject isn't biblical and it seems to work to the devil's advantage.
We have choices It's been that way from the beginning, and the devil has fooled us into believing we don't through warped senses of compassion and logic. Yet, look at what G-d said and how Yeshua responded. Deuteronomy 30:19 Matthew 4. G-d gives us choices. The devil plays with the environment to suffocate us or shut us up but then we have faith and hope, but we have to choose it. That's the hard part and where emotion has really tripped me up. So then I am trying to choose to stop talking so much spiritually, trust G-d's Spirit and Yeshua's intercession to speak on my behalf. Let G-d hear what's happening to me and trust Him to eventually act, and just "do" physically in the feasts and commandments what He said to express my troubles, faith, need and gratitude. It's really haumbeling to know your at that point.
After reading this over, I think G-d is working to cause me to do more than I used to be comfortable with because at this point I have to have something more external to do. I can't just keep it between me and Him. I don't know, but I'm not as scared as I used to be.
Matthew 4:8-9
And Yeshua came and spoke unto them saying, "All authority under heaven and earth is given unto Me."
Matthew 28:18
Is Matthew 4 just an example of the devil lying? That's my first thought, but then I wonder if Yeshua's resurrection took something back from him that up until then satan may have had.
Honestly, I don't think I'll be convinced he had much of anything because Yeshua, the Creator of the world, already had this. It's just perverted satanic logic that amounts to distortion and confusion, and that's what the devil does. He tells us we don't have what G-d has already given us all the time, but maybe someone has more insight on thus passage than me and I need to understand it differently.
I have struggled with evil and trying to get away from it. Honestly, I don't see much scripturally to back up a lot of what I hear from Christianity. I just don't see scripture saying a lot of what they do about satan.
If you look at Yeshua's temptation in the desert, it came down to being offered choices. This is where the devil has sway but also where we have spiritual authority through the strength of Yeshua to act in faith.
It seems obvious. We choose how we act and what we believe, but think about it on a deeper level.
Meanwhile, we have a lot of garbage to sift through because a lot of things said about the devil in Christianity I personally don't see in scripture, and it seems to play into his game.
As followers of G-d, satan forces evil on us to the point we can feel like we have no choice. That plays out differently internally than externally, but it's pretty much boils down to emotional control which, in my case, then boils down to trusting G-d. Trusting G-d when you should shut-up and trusting G-d when you should speak. Seems so simple but is just hard.
Anyway, I thought Matthew 4 may be one place Christianity has drawn from regarding their idea about the devil's dominion but then Matthew 28 immediately came up. From there you see Yeshua's response which brings me to "....I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing, therefore choose life..." Deuteronomy 30:19
I have really struggled finding my spiritual voice lately which ties in somehow to my physical voice. That sounds silly, but it's hard to explain. It's like I'm trying to get to G-d but there's always an eves dropper lurking and meddling, everywhere I turn.
If Satan can shut you up he will, and he can do that spiritually if you let him. Then youre left fighting for faith when it feels everything G-d gave you to hold you together and keep faith is stolen or beyond your ability to keep. You can't pray. You can't meditate on scripture. You can't worship. That's where I ended up.
I really think our freedom of expression sometimes has to extend beyond the verbal or even emotional kind of communication we can do with G-d to choosing and acting. That's where Torah for me takes on an entirely greater significance, and it may be all you're left with at times to express yourself to G-d because satan wants to shut you up.
I never would have believed your soul can be shut up, but after what I've struggled through, I do. Your soul can be shut up if you depend on yourself to even just express yourself in prayer because more is happening internally than you can maintain. So the level of trust I have in G-d "hearing" me is being challenged because of the meddling voyeur I can't get away from. So now the act of doing has a higher purpose in overcoming spiritual limits that resulted from evil corruption. I think it's ultimately about balance, and my life isn't lending itself to that so I'm really struggling.
G-d holds the universe together but if you consider your internal self, there's a whole universe He holds together right there. He is the One holding you together, and we're not holding as much together as we feel or think.
As of my current understanding, I think the one place we have some sincere control is in our choices. Once you start letting that go, you will suffer a kind if internal chaos and spiritual degradation similar to what we see in the physical world. That's been my experience. I was deceived and my spiritual life corrupted by evil. The power they have is in confusion, but you know what? If the devil has so much say so and dominion as he wants us to believe, he wouldn't have to lie and sneak and hide.
Anyway, trying to get a handle on it through Christanity's understanding of satan and his role has made things worse I think. Unless I'm missing something, much of what people understand on this subject isn't biblical and it seems to work to the devil's advantage.
We have choices It's been that way from the beginning, and the devil has fooled us into believing we don't through warped senses of compassion and logic. Yet, look at what G-d said and how Yeshua responded. Deuteronomy 30:19 Matthew 4. G-d gives us choices. The devil plays with the environment to suffocate us or shut us up but then we have faith and hope, but we have to choose it. That's the hard part and where emotion has really tripped me up. So then I am trying to choose to stop talking so much spiritually, trust G-d's Spirit and Yeshua's intercession to speak on my behalf. Let G-d hear what's happening to me and trust Him to eventually act, and just "do" physically in the feasts and commandments what He said to express my troubles, faith, need and gratitude. It's really haumbeling to know your at that point.
After reading this over, I think G-d is working to cause me to do more than I used to be comfortable with because at this point I have to have something more external to do. I can't just keep it between me and Him. I don't know, but I'm not as scared as I used to be.
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