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Post by zionlion on Dec 9, 2017 17:31:30 GMT -8
Lately I've been reading about and watching YouTube videos on the effort to intensify the movement to enable people like us, lovers of the G-d of Israel and His  , who may or may not be actual descendants of the ten tribes, to be permitted to join Judah in the Land. There has been correspondence by some proponents with Israeli government officials explaining the benefits (such as economic and military) of allowing us to join them, perhaps by creating settlements like those created for our Jewish brethren. It has been emphasized that we want to come as brothers and helpers, not as "crusaders".
This has touched my heart and struck a cord within me.
It would be wonderful, but given the immense influence of rabbinic halakha, most of which we would not observe, is this even a possibility before the Lord returns?
Your thoughts?
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Post by alon on Dec 10, 2017 1:00:48 GMT -8
Of course I cannot know the answer to that. But I can see several problems with it:
- Given the last 2000 yrs history most Jews do not trust us
- Most Jews lump us in with Christians, and do not see us as a sect of Judaism
- There is widespread fear that we would try to evangelize Jews in Israel
- The Jews see Israel as their home, not ours
- They already have a large Muslim population there, why would they want another bunch they see as potential enemies living within their borders
Those are just a few problems I see with the proposition we should be accepted there. I didn't say they are right; just that this is how we are perceived.
Dan C
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Post by Elizabeth on Dec 10, 2017 8:44:57 GMT -8
Perhaps the secularized non-religious people of Israel would actually work to your advantage on this, but I don't know. Maybe they are kind of over the whole world being in their business so just would prefer to avoid the extremist ideology we have come to represent as much as possible.
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Post by zionlion on Dec 11, 2017 13:09:12 GMT -8
Of course I cannot know the answer to that. But I can see several problems with it: - Given the last 2000 yrs history most Jews do not trust us - Most Jews lump us in with Christians, and do not see us as a sect of Judaism - There is widespread fear that we would try to evangelize Jews in Israel - The Jews see Israel as their home, not ours - They already have a large Muslim population there, why would they want another bunch they see as potential enemies living within their borders Those are just a few problems I see with the proposition we should be accepted there. I didn't say they are right; just that this is how we are perceived. Dan C
Yes, the proponents understand the mistrust factor and that it is well deserved. Their intention is to earn trust through actions, actions that will over time prove the sincerity of our love for them. We know that many Israelis already realize we are their best friends in the world. If they could see that our love for them and the Land is genuine, and that the purpose for coming isn't a plot to "convert" anyone, maybe it could happen. Of course, it would have to be the Lord's will.
The leaders of this movement held a conference in Israel in 2015. A.J. McCarn was one of the speakers:
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, who may or may not be actual descendants of the ten tribes, to be permitted to join Judah in the Land. There has been correspondence by some proponents with Israeli government officials explaining the benefits (such as economic and military) of allowing us to join them, perhaps by creating settlements like those created for our Jewish brethren. It has been emphasized that we want to come as brothers and helpers, not as "crusaders".
