Parasha "NOACH" GEN 6:9-11:32 (world destroyed and re-born)

[Ben Avraham]

PARASHA:  NOACH

GENESIS:  6:9-11:32................ISAIAH 54:1-55:5......................MATTHEW 3:1-4:25

This Parasha starts out on both good and bad notes.  The world is really in turmoil, violence and evil has permeated the world, caused by sin, demonic entities on earth, yet inspite of all this, ONE PERSON and his family remain RIGHTEOUS, and separate themselves from the lost world.  "Noach and family".  It says that "Noah walked with God"
the word "Halach" is "walk" it is a spiritual/faith walk and not a physical action.  In spite of the world corruption, Noach and his family remained true to YHVH, probably through the influence of Enoch, Methuselah, and to those who knew Adam, and learned from his mistake and repentance.

The world will be destroyed by a flood of waters, YHVH tells Noach, yet HE will preserve him and his family in a boat, an "Ark" which will be made to just float on water, no rudder is needed, because the "Yad Elohim" (the hand of G-d) will guide it through the flood waters until it reaches safety. There is so much to teach in this, that only a few paragraphs will not suffice. 

But we a correlation between Yeshua and Noach, and the Ark.  The ark was a "boat of safety, Noach and his family went "through" the judgement of the world, yet was "saved" the 40 days and 40 nights is significant, the number "40" is the number of "judgement, trials, and testings.  Our "ark" of safety is "Yeshua" Moshe was saved as a baby in a small "Ark" made of reeds and made waterproof with pitch, and was set on the Nile and arrived to safety near the palace. 

Noach was a "just and righteous" man in HIS generation, he was a "Tzadik" it must have been a scary world, full of evil men, dinosaurs, and giants, yet Noach remained fathful to Elohim.  The ark carried the primary animal "kinds" 7 pairs of clean animals and a pair of unclean animals, and enough food to last a year.  Yes, there were dinosaurs on the ark, the smaller ones, probably infants, or yearlings. 

The flood waters came, but not before YHVH had shut the door.  (6:16) He and his family were IN and the lost were OUT, the age of grace had ended, and now judegment would begin.  The flood waters destroyed the earth that was originally made, with only 8 survivors.  Mr and Mrs. Noach (wife; Naamah, daughter of Enoch) according to rabbinic stories, and sons Shem, Ham, and Japheth, and their wives, and with those people, after the flood, the world was repopulated, yet sin persisted, so, man learned nothing from the flood. 
The world received the present languages when the people were divided at the building of "Bavel" after the flood.  Interesting to note that the ark came to land on Mt Ararat, during the time of Sukkot, (the 7th month) which means, YHVH tabernacles with us, YHVH did not forget Noach and his family, HE was with them, and he is with us too, through the Ruach HaKodesh (The Holy Spirit)  
(this is really cutting this parasha short, there is much to say and would be so much to write, I ask, when do I finish, so I am trying to hit on some main points,)
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ISAIAH  54:1-55:5

Interesting verses for childless women, "do not dispare" YHVH is your husband. "YHVH Tzeva'ot Shemo" (the LORD of hosts is HIS name) many women think it is disgrace not to have children, yet even now, the LORD comforts them, I will have mercy on you! says YHVH and even the barren, (Sarah, Hannah, Rachel, etc) had children.   .We have all been made to be  "B'nei Elohim" (children of God) through Yeshua our redeemer.
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MATTHEW 3-4

As Noach went through the water in an ark, Yochanan the Baptist got into the water and baptized those who would come to repentence, here the water symbolizes death and rebirth, while the flood waters symoblized destruction and judgement, the dove, which Noach released brought back an olive leaf, which symbolizes "Shalom" (peace) the dove took off again, flew away and didn't return to Noach.  Well, where did it go? Here, it came down when Yeshua was baptised in the Jordan river, again, symbolizing "Yeshua Shalom"
"Yeshua, who came in peace, to teach the , to heal, and to die for our sins, fullfill the will of the Father

Shabbat Shalom....rabbi Ben Avraham

[Loxody]

Noach was a "just and righteous" man in HIS generation

Very interesting, because compared to Abraham, Noah was not so "righteous".
Abraham actively prayed for Sodom and Gomorrah, while Noah did not warn others of the destruction and really only cared about saving himself/his family. 

[alon]

Genesis 6:7-13 (ESV) So the Lord said, “I will blot out man whom I have created from the face of the land, man and animals and creeping things and birds of the heavens, for I am sorry that I have made them.” But Noah found favor in the eyes of the Lord. These are the generations of Noah. Noah was a righteous man, blameless in his generation. Noah walked with God. And Noah had three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth. Now the earth was corrupt in God's sight, and the earth was filled with violence. And God saw the earth, and behold, it was corrupt, for all flesh had corrupted their way on the earth. And God said to Noah, “I have determined to make an end of all flesh, [The end of all flesh has come before me] for the earth is filled with violence through them. Behold, I will destroy them with the earth.

Genesis 6:17-18 (ESV) For behold, I will bring a flood of waters upon the earth to destroy all flesh in which is the breath of life under heaven. Everything that is on the earth shall die. But I will establish my covenant with you, and you shall come into the ark, you, your sons, your wife, and your sons' wives with you.

I don’t think we can make the comparison between Noach and Avraham. Two different men, two different times, and two different situations. Furthermore, we are not told whether either man witnessed to or warned others or not. And neither was perfect- Noach got drunk after he was saved from the flood, and Avraham and Sarah both denied to Hashem that He would give her a son in her old age. However both men stepped out in faith, trusting Elohim when it counted. And both were counted righteous, finding favor with Hashem.

Reading from scripture, we see that the world in which Noach lived was exceedingly wicked, yet he raised three righteous sons. As Meshiachim, I think we can get just a small taste of the loneliness of his situation and the struggle he must have had to remain in God’s truth. In fact, an argument could be made that Noach was more righteous because he didn’t question the will of Hashem in obliterating all life except those on the Ark; while Avraham quibbled over two cities (regions) … I mean, when YHVH Hashopet- The Lord the Judge declares men are evil, then they are evil! And His judgements are just.

Personally, I see this as a character flaw in Avraham. I don’t know how many times I’ve seen incompetent or wicked people given another chance to do damage by other people who vacillate and wring their hands instead of doing what is right and showing them the door. And invariably they take the chance and do more damage. I’m sure the lesson here is that we can ask Elohim to relent. We can stand in for others before Elohim is another lesson. But it is also true that in the end, the men of S’dom and Amorah paid the price; they were judged and their sentence executed, all but one family. And even they did not get out unscathed as Lot’s wife looked back and was killed on the spot. So no, I find no fault with Noach for not interceding with Hashem for the lives of wicked men.

Noach had work to do, and instead of questioning his God, he got to work doing as he was told. Avraham was entertaining Hashem, and all he really had to do was wait for the malachim to return. Two very different situations. So his misuse of that time was not an issue. But I do question his judgement. I think I’d have taken the time to learn more. I’ve been blessed to sit under the instruction of some very gifted men in various disciplines. And believe me, I was a pest with questions or saying “show me that again … .” If God ever showed up on my doorstep, soon as He said “Get up off your face” I’d be asking Him to review every post here, asking questions and trying to take it all in. Folks, the search for truth would pay off big time right there! And yes, I’d intercede for family and friends, asking they be undeniably shown the truth. But as always, their salvation is between them and Him … now, back to those posts … ! And I am sure my “I Found Out I Was Wrong” thread would grow exponentially. But hey, every time I post there, I’ve just learned something. So the longer that thread is, the happier I am. But man, if I was getting instruction straight from Elohim, the sodomites house can just burn, and someone else can call the fire department, ‘cause I’m busy!

Dan (just sayin’ how it is) C

[patlao]

Hi, can I ask a question? I don't know if this already been asked or discussed and if this is not the proper place please forgive me.

My question is:

From Genesis 1 up to 11:1 said
"And the whole earth was of ONE language, and of ONE speech."

What language they are using? Before this "ONE language" was condfounded( Gen11:7) please enlighten me

[alon]

Proverbs 25:2 (ESV)  It is the glory of God to conceal things, but the glory of kings is to search things out.

We aren't told what language was originally spoken before language was confused at Babel. However there are some clues. One is the Book of Job, which was probably written before the flood, in Hebrew. Also there are some linguists such as Dr. Danny Ben Gigi who make a case that all languages sprang from ancient Hebrew. Since Hebrew is the language of Hashem's people, and since He saw fit to miraculously preserve both them AND the language despite centuries of persecution, I'm happy to believe it was the language of Adam and Chava, of Noach and even of the rest of the world pre-Babel. But that's just my opinion. Not being a "king" my own search on the subject falls a bit short of being compelling. Nevertheless, it is a good opinion and so I'm sticking with it ... for now, anyhow.

Sorry I can't give you anything more definite.

Dan C

[jimmie]

The best argument for the pre-flood language being Hebrew that I have heard is, there are no non-Hebrew names used prior to Babel. What ever the pre-flood language was, we know that the pure language will be reinstated and was briefly on Pentecost in Acts when everyone could understand what was being said.

[patlao]

Thank you for answering Dan C and Jimmie I have a question again.

Does this verse in Zeph 3:9 have a connection? Do you think the pure language was the language mentioned before babel? And do you think this is also connected to Acts at the Pentecost?

Zeph 3:9: "For then will I turn to the people a pure language, that they may all call upon the name of the LORD, to serve him with one consent."

[alon]

Nov 15, 2016 7:01:18 GMT -8 patlao said:

Does this verse in Zeph 3:9 have a connection? Do you think the pure language was the language mentioned before babel? And do you think this is also connected to Acts at the Pentecost?

Zeph 3:9: "For then will I turn to the people a pure language, that they may all call upon the name of the LORD, to serve him with one consent."

I would guess that you are right on all counts. The entire Bible is like a tapestry, with every strand crossing over every other at several points; so a connection is entirely likely. And if we are all to speak one pure language in the Olam Haba, then I'd say it would likely be the same language Hashem conversed with Adam in; and which Adam and Chava would have taught their children, grandchildren, and that every generation right up to Babel would have learned. This would be a language of pure understanding. And when the Ruach Hakodesh helps a person to understand what is said in his own tongue as at Pentacost, I can only believe that experience would be one of pure understanding as well. So Pentacost could be seen as a type, or shadow of things to come. This is all speculative, of course. But I'd say you've had some good insights there. Thanks for sharing.

Dan C

[Ben Avraham]

I would also concur that the original language was "Hebrew" I imagine that Adam and Eve spoken it in its most pure form, if there was a "most KADOSH form" one can say "Ivrit Kadosh" and the "paleo-Hebrew is the most interesting, each letter symbolizing something, like for instance, YAH "yod" and "hey" symbolizing "Behold the Hand and Arm" (outstretched) in the creation of the world, and in upholding his arms (YESHUA) to die for our sins, be nailed to the stake.

[patlao]

Thank you for the enlightenment Dan C, and benavraham.

I have another question.

If the pure language is Hebrew?

And Abram is originally from Ur of Chaldeans before they went to canaan? Means Abram is a gentile?

Gen 11:31: "And Terah took his son Abram and his grandson Lot, the son of Haran, and his daughter-in-law Sarai, his son Abram's wife, and they went out with them from Ur of the Chaldeans to go to the land of Canaan; and they came to Haran and dwelt there."

If God speaks pure language(Hebrew)?
How did Abram understand God?

If the Hebrew is the pure language then what is the need for restoration (Zeph 3:9) if Hebrew is already existing. I think this pure language is gone missing thats why it need restoration. What do you think?

[alon]

How did every man understand the apostles at Pentecost? When God speaks, everyone can understand Him, regardless their native tongue.

As to Avram being a Gentile, yes he was. The term we translate "Gentile" is the Hebrew word "Goy" (plural "goyim"), which actually means "Nations" or "Of the nations." Even the Hebrews, when spoken of as a nation, are said to be goyim. However in Avram's case there was no Hebrew nation. He was yet to father that nation as Avraham; his name changed with Sarah's pregnancy with Yitzach (Isaac). Hers was also changed from Sarai to Sarah, as we just read. And that nation would not come to fruition until after the 400 years of slavery Elohim told Avraham would occur. So you are correct, Avram was a Gentile, a goy from the goyim of Ur of the Chaldeas.

Modern Hebrew is distinctly different from Biblical Hebrew, and that even went through several distinctly different periods. So what we have is not the pure form, or the original if you will. So IF the language of the Olam haba (world to come) is going to be Hebrew, it would have to be restored. And remember, we are speculating here. It is entirely possible it will be some other language.

Dan C 

[patlao]

Wow thank you Dan C this is very informative. I can't stop reading my Bible. It is like a deep well the more I study the more questions and interesting revelation God is showing me. Please forgive me if I ask to many question.

I have a question again.
In 1Cor.12:4-11 Gift was given to us by the Holy Spirit in verse 10
"to another, the working of miracles; to another, prophecy; to another, the ability to judge between spirits; to another, THE ABILITY TO SPEAK IN DIFFERENT KINDS OF TOUNGES; and to yet another, the ability to interpret tongues."(CJB)

Mentioned "...To ability to speak in different kinds of tounges..."

And in

1Cor 14:2: "For SOMEONE SPEAKING IN A TONGUE IS NOT SPEAKING TO PEOPLE BUT TO GOD, BECAUSE NO ONE CAN UNDERSTAND since he is UTTERING MYSTERIES in the POWER of the SPIRIT." (CJB)

Do you think this has a connection? To the lost language?

[alon]

Nov 20, 2016 5:45:37 GMT -8 patlao said:

Wow thank you Dan C this is very informative. I can't stop reading my Bible. It is like a deep well the more I study the more questions and interesting revelation God is showing me. Please forgive me if I ask to many question.

I have a question again.
In 1Cor.12:4-11 Gift was given to us by the Holy Spirit in verse 10
"to another, the working of miracles; to another, prophecy; to another, the ability to judge between spirits; to another, THE ABILITY TO SPEAK IN DIFFERENT KINDS OF TOUNGES; and to yet another, the ability to interpret tongues."(CJB)

Mentioned "...To ability to speak in different kinds of tounges..."

And in

1Cor 14:2: "For SOMEONE SPEAKING IN A TONGUE IS NOT SPEAKING TO PEOPLE BUT TO GOD, BECAUSE NO ONE CAN UNDERSTAND since he is UTTERING MYSTERIES in the POWER of the SPIRIT." (CJB)

Do you think this has a connection? To the lost language?

Yes, it could. However when you start talking about speaking in tongues you open up a large can of worms. This could mean that when you pray in a language no one else in the room understands, the only person you speak to is God. Could also mean a person who is so spiritually connected to Elohim that they do converse where no one else understands them. But I'll tell you plainly that I've never meat anyone that connected. My others side of the family are all Pentecostal, and some of them are VERY Godly people. But when they speak in tongues they are very obviously not speaking a heavenly language. On the other hand, I've heard of two definate instances whre, if the people telling me of them were truthful (and I believe they were) then those instances they spoke of were truely tongues. but both of those edified someone else at the time.

Do a search for tongues here. I did a long post on the topic. Sorry I don't have time to look it up, but you should be able to find it using the search function.

Dan C

I had a little time this afternoon; here is the thread:


theloveofgod.proboards.com/thread/4016/tongues

[patlao]

Wow that's interesting, thank you so much Dan C. i'll definitely read it. Thank you all people who answered my questions. I love you people for helping and sharing your wisdom and knowledge. Shalom