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Post by mystic on Oct 13, 2016 2:08:53 GMT -8
Something dawned on me this morning, in the movie the 10 Commandments, at the end Pharoah said about the God of moses "he is God" so then why didn't him and all egyptians start worshipping the God whose works they had witnessed first hand?
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Post by alon on Oct 13, 2016 12:54:55 GMT -8
Something dawned on me this morning, in the movie the 10 Commandments, at the end Pharoah said about the God of moses "he is God" so then why didn't him and all egyptians start worshipping the God whose works they had witnessed first hand?
Good question, and one I've thought about many times. I can't tell you with certainty, but here is how I see it. First off is human nature. We want to do it our own way; to be the captains of our own ship. There are literally thousands of people in my mostly rural county who know there is a God, yet who refuse His offer of salvation. I personally know many Christians who've been shown the truth in Messianism, but they refuse to leave the church. And I've met several who identify themselves as Messianic but who refuse to even come once to synagogue, because they want to do it their way. I think Pharaoh was no different. Like the Christian who can't give up pork and Christmas, he couldn't give up religion as he knew it and was comfortable with.
Another thing is we have to look at how people in the near and mid-east looked at deity in that time. Every region and city-state had their own gods. Defeat in battle just meant that the other guys god was stronger, or was just having a better day. The statement in the movie was poignant as well as it conveyed a message. But it was a bit of poetic license by the screenwriters, as I don't think his words or the incident in that scene were ever recorded. But at any rate, such a statement by a pagan ruler of that time would only mean "Dog-gone-it, Moses found a stronger god than mine!" It was not an occasion to change who or how you worship.
That's just my take on it.
Dan C
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Post by mystic on Oct 14, 2016 2:10:33 GMT -8
I can agree with that, you know what's right but don't wish to leave your comfort zone.
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Post by jimmie on Oct 14, 2016 8:14:26 GMT -8
What we have in Exodus is this: God says at the beginning that he will harden Pharaoh's heart (Ex 4:21, 7:4-5). The hardening of Pharaoh's heart is then described in several different ways:
• Pharaoh's heart became hard (Ex 7:13, 23)
• Pharaoh hardened his heart (Ex 8:15, 32)
• God hardened Pharaoh's heart (Ex 9:7, 10:20)
However, when the Bible says Pharaoh hardens his heart, it also says that this happened "just as the Lord had said" (Ex 8:15). In particular, consider Exodus 9:34-10:2:
When Pharaoh saw that the rain and hail and thunder had stopped, he sinned again: He and his officials hardened their hearts. So Pharaoh's heart was hard and he would not let the Israelites go, just as the LORD had said through Moses.
Then the LORD said to Moses, "Go to Pharaoh, for I have hardened his heart and the hearts of his officials so that I may perform these miraculous signs of mine among them that you may tell your children and grandchildren how I dealt harshly with the Egyptians and how I performed my signs among them, and that you may know that I am the LORD."
In other words, Pharaoh's hardening his heart is considered to be the same as God hardening Pharaoh's heart. Pharaoh did the actual hardening, and God sending the plagues triggered the hardening. Pharaoh decided on his own to not listen to God and let the Israelites go. But God knew how Pharaoh would react in any given situation, and deliberately placed events in Pharaoh’s life causing him to act the way he did.
Why would Pharaoh harden his heart against God? Because Pharaoh, The Great House, was the god of Egypt. For Pharaoh to accept God he would have to step down from being god.
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Post by mystic on Oct 15, 2016 3:15:08 GMT -8
That certainly makes sense.
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