Shalom, ani Kepha

[kepha]

Shalom, ani Kepha. naim me'od lehakir otha.   אני כאפא. נעים מאוד להכיר אותךָ ,שלום
(Hope this is correct only recently started learning Ivrit.)

I am 46 and from South Africa. I am a true believer in Yeshua and our Heavenly Father and that the Bible is the only word of our Elohim. Nothing else, Especial man made doctrines. If it is not in the Bible I don't want to hear it.
I am new to the truth and still learning every day, but I was deceived long enough. I am still learning to make the part of my every day life and as soon as I think I am getting better at it, The Father humbles me with a trail to learn me more.

This coming Sukkot I am going to be baptize by our Ordained Elder (Yes believe it we have an ordained Elder in SA, he was ordained by an Elder in Yerisalem ) in the Name of our Master Yeshua so that I may join the second covenant. Can't wait. 

That is me in a nut shell. I do see the Jewish people as my brothers and sisters, but I know I can never become a Jew since that is your birth right. I do believe that by being baptize in Yeshua's wonderful name you join the second covenant that is between our Father and the House of Yisra'el where Yeshua the blood offering for us was. And that is how we gentiles can become part of Yeshua's body and His set apart people Yisra'el, but as Ephrayim (meaning not only the tribe Ephrayim, but all 10 tribes in Diaspora.)

That is way I call Jews my brothers and sisters.

Hope this find you good B'Shem Yeshua ha Messiach

[alon]

Shalom; bo'achah!

I think it is great you have an elder. You are fortunate, as many who come here are doing this on their own. I did that for a while, and believe me it is a tough row to hoe. Now I have a good, knowledgeable Rabbi who comes to a town near enough that I can go to his teachings. If I may ask, what sect of Meshichi are you with? We are with Light Ministries.

As ma'amim Meshichi we undergo tevilah (baptism) many times and for many reasons. I plan to do tevilah with the parent synagogue of this forum later this month at Lake Roosevelt. They are about 200 miles away, so I don't get to see them very often. And we are trying to organize something for our own synagogue before the summer ends.

Since we are essentially a Jewish religion, as the first century believers were, we do allow writings from other sources for instruction and proof. But the 66 books of the Bible have preeminence, and is our base. If it doesn't agree with , then either the writing is false or our understanding is flawed. However we don't force this view on anyone, and you are certainly welcome to ignore anything from other works, even though they may explain some things and expound on others. A case in point is commentary. I use a lot of commentary when I write up my haftarot, and list the major sources at the bottom to give credit. Face it, I ain't that smart and my mind doesn't even work up to near what it used to. But with a lot of commentary and sometimes other resources I muddle through.

Some of us see ourselves as adopted into the Jewish faith and family. Some do not. I do, however I am acutely aware that I was raised a Gentile, schooled in the Greek method of thought, and to speak plain I have a lot of Gentile habits I cannot (at least as yet) break. I tell people I am a proselyte to Messianic Judaism ... then they usually look at me like they should know what that is, but just can't quite get ahold of it. We take the Jewish view when discussing such things here; that true learning is in the give and take of arguments (statements which can be proven true or false) in a discussion.

So jump right in! Another perspective is always welcome.

Dan C

[kepha]

Todah Raba alon
to answer your question on what sect I belong to, will break one of the rules of this site since it contains the Holy name of the Father so I will say HaShem

It is the Congregation of HaShem. The Lead Elder or shall we say the Snr Elder (don't know how else to say it) is Elder Don Esposito from Yerushalayim. Don't know if you know the Hebraic Roots Bible. It was published by him.

[kepha]

Also I can just say that there is only a really small amount of true believers in South Africa. When I say a small amount i mean maybe 30,35,40 at the most. So there is a lot of work to do over here (any one wants to help haha) and we are all scattered across SA so it is hard to have fellowship and we do travel distances to be with each other at times. For Sukkot I will travel 1200km to be with most of the Congregation that all are come from over SA to one place for Sukkot. Kind off traveling up to Yerushalayim for the feast. Yes not quite the same but next year in Yerushalayim.

[alon]

Just so you know, it is ok to use the Name YHVH, especially as it is in the title of your sect. We just try not to use it so much it becomes common; and always (of course) it is to be used with the greatest respect. What is not allowed is to teach others how to say The Name. For that reason it is best to just use the Tetragrammaton instead of saying something like either Yehova or Yaweh. That said, you may use either of those if you wish (I just grit my teeth and say oh well). However if someone were to start telling others how to form the vowels or where to put the accents I'd have to step in.    With R Reuel, red is the color you don't want to see. With me it is blue. But we are easy to get along with. Well, for the most part anyhow.

I went to the website for your sect. There are a couple of things different to what I believe, but that is what makes it a different sect I suppose. Still, it looked pretty good. Hard to tell just from a one page doctrinal statement. Do you know if you are more Hebrew Roots, or are you working towards full Observant Messianic Judaism? I started in Hebrew Roots. If you have good instruction HR is a good place to grow from. But the more we are in it the closer we get to a Jewish form of religion. I believe your Doctrinal Statement said as much.

Anyhow, it is good to have you on board. Looking forward to your insights.

Dan  C

[Elizabeth]

Welcome kepha! It's nice to have you here. I am so grateful to get to hear from fellow believers here as I don't have a congregation locally, but it's especially wonderful to get to hear from fellow believers from around the world. It's a good reminder of how much G-d is working, and how we can't even comprehend the extent of what He keeps and pulls together.

G-d bless you and yours. Thanks for introducing yourself, and I look forward to our conversations.

[kepha]

Oh thanks cause I am dying to use the name of my Holy Father in Heaven, may I call upon His name as יהוה?
Off course only when deemed necessary and with at most Highest respect.
As I see it (I am only with the congregation for about a year and half and it took me about a year to get over the shock of been so deceived by the christian Churches):
We are leaning more towards Hebrew Roots and are fully Observant. We see our self more part of the house of Yisra,el as Ephrayim, that are still to be called back to our land Yisra'el, but like you said we do follows some of the Judaism as it is in the word. Hope this make sense.
We only have one doctrine the Bible and if it is not in the Bible or can't be proofed from the bible we don't believe it. It is a very simple doctrine to follow and there is no room for man made doctrines.

We also are very into the history of Yisra'el and the people of Yisra'el cause it makes understanding the Bible so much easier for instance you now know why Paul would have said to who he said it, cause you understand the culture and history of that time and of that people better.
I hope you find this good and helpful to better describe our sect.

[kepha]

Jul 14, 2016 14:16:51 GMT -8 Elizabeth said:

Welcome kepha! It's nice to have you here. I am so grateful to get to hear from fellow believers here as I don't have a congregation locally, but it's especially wonderful to get to hear from fellow believers from around the world. It's a good reminder of how much G-d is working, and how we can't even comprehend the extent of what He keeps and pulls together.

G-d bless you and yours. Thanks for introducing yourself, and I look forward to our conversations.

Thank you Elizabeth
I thank Elohim every day for the work He is doing and that He has always left a remnant of true believers like us now in these days. It is good to meet you as well and can't wait to start talking with you people on here.
B'Shem Yeshua ha Messiach.

Shabbat Shalom every body.

[alon]

Jul 15, 2016 3:18:02 GMT -8 kepha said:

Oh thanks cause I am dying to use the name of my Holy Father in Heaven, may I call upon His name as יהוה?
Off course only when deemed necessary and with at most Highest respect.
As I see it (I am only with the congregation for about a year and half and it took me about a year to get over the shock of been so deceived by the christian Churches):
We are leaning more towards Hebrew Roots and are fully Observant. We see our self more part of the house of Yisra,el as Ephrayim, that are still to be called back to our land Yisra'el, but like you said we do follows some of the Judaism as it is in the word. Hope this make sense.
We only have one doctrine the Bible and if it is not in the Bible or can't be proofed from the bible we don't believe it. It is a very simple doctrine to follow and there is no room for man made doctrines.

We also are very into the history of Yisra'el and the people of Yisra'el cause it makes understanding the Bible so much easier for instance you now know why Paul would have said to who he said it, cause you understand the culture and history of that time and of that people better.
I hope you find this good and helpful to better describe our sect.

Yes, you can use The Name in it's Hebrew text. But as you say sparingly and respectfully. Hashem gave us His name, so He must have wanted us to use it. But to what purpose? He did not spread it through the Bible like it was common. Often instead He refers to Himself as Elohim, a common term which can also mean gods (small g for demons) or even human rulers and men in authority. Elohim is however plural, indicating that He posses ALL the traits of Godliness. So that is acceptable. So is God, G-d, or Hashem. I try to mix those up in use unless I am talking to someone in Christianity or just coming out of their deception. Then I use God. If talking to a Jewish person I stick to Hashem. Respect for Elohim is meant to be mirrored in our dealing with each other.

We do use the name Yeshua often, but with the understanding we are still talking about the fully eternal Elohim. Always respectful there too.

I've actually only ever had one person who was disrespectful to the name and person of Yeshua. Everyone who comes here is pretty much drawn to God's truth anyhow, and are by nature respectful. Some of that is due to the small questionnaire we send everyone when you join. That was instituted by senior admin at the same time I became moderator, and believe it or not it works. Before that we had a lot of problems with people coming here to either convert us back to Christianity, or just trolls and idiots. Not much with anti-missionaries, though I did have to deal with one who was signed up before the new system. So I think you'll find that this is, by its' very nature a very respectful place to learn and grow.

Dan C

[kepha]

Thank you Dan

[kepha]

I think I made a mistake when I said:

We are leaning more towards Hebrew Roots and are fully Observant.

We don't believe in religion but rather in a relationship with the Father and His Son our Messiach and in the truth, that is the best I can explain it. If you are Judaism or any other religion is of no matter to me, What matter is that you know Elohim The Father and the Son our Master Yeshua and that Yeshua is our Messiach, our Salvation and the Way to the Father. That The Father's laws () must be obeyed so that we may have the Grace of Our Father through Master Yeshua ha'Messiach.

We see our self more part of the house of Yisra,el as Ephrayim, that are still to be called back to our land Yisra'el.