chumash614

[The 614th Mitzvot]

Since Reuel has asked, I will answer. I came to know Yohshuah HaMoshiach as Ad-nia truelly a few years ago. I have always gone to church, but it was simply a lip service and I knew most of the people there so it was a fun lip service. But it was no more than that. I always felt bored and didn't want to learn and prayer was only for toys.

Since I was a child, anything important that ever happened in my life, I dreamed about it beforehand. I have always had this "gift". So when I was 12, 5 years ago. I dreamed that Ad-nia was giving me in my hand a pair of tefellin and tzitzis. I had never seen either of these articles afore so I figured it was just craziness.

As time progressed I met many jewish people in my neighborhood. Many of whom were messianic. I have spent a few Shabbats in all the local synogogues except the ones. At the age of 14 I found out that I was Jewish, something that I should have known, but was never simply told.

When I turned 15 I had that same dream again, but this time we had moved. I know live nearer (about one block) to my church and even closer to a messianic synogogue; the same that one of my closest high school friends goes to.

Two summers ago I had another dream in which I saw myself putting on the tefellin and tzitzis. I now knew what had to happen and I have spent every single day from the day I had that dream to today learning , Talmud, and Midrash and compairing that with my ever increasing knowlegde of the B'Rit Hadashah. My family does not support me unfortunetly, luckely I am able to keep kosher because I am the one who does all the cooking and shopping for my family so Adonai has given me an easier position.

To sum it all up as short as possible 'You cannot have the new without the old, yet both are as important, and nothing important was ever done without obstacles.'

Moderator note: I was cleaning up a bit and moved this to its proper category. It is an older thread, and so there is no need to respond to it unless the member returns ... we're always glad to welcome back people who've left! alon

[R' Y'hoshua Moshe]

Thank you for sharing your testimony Chumash614.

Do you attend the local Messianic Synagouge, and do you have fellowship with other Messianic Jews?

Shalom,

Reuel

[The 614th Mitzvot]

Yes, but I also go to a church and fellowship with Goyim, this way I can be with my family, and my pastors teach and learn mutually.

[steve_613++]

Shalom Chumash614,

As a new member I'm still catching up with what's been contributed so far by everyone. I noticed that, at the end of your testimony you say,

" ... but I also go to Church and fellowship with the Goyim ..."

I have two thoughts here, leading to the following questions:

Firstly, I'd love to know the reaction of "church-goers" to your presence among them. Do they comment on your tzitziyot, for instance? Does anyone try to convince you that you are "in error"? In short, are they welcoming and open-minded, or do they tolerate you as a harmless brother with some far-out ideas? In my (short) Messianic experience I get knee-jerk reactions about "being nailed to the cross" etc. How about your church friends.

Secondly (and let me know if this belongs in another thread), is it correct to refer to people as Goyim if they have had the Gospel of Messiah preached to them, if they have then responded, and accepted Yeshua as the Messiah? Surely the main difference between you and them is that they fail to keep . I believe that once a person accepts the Gospel and Yeshua, then they, having been once "far off" now become part of the "commonwealth of Israel" (*not* Judah, unless they were Jews to start with). Goyim (Greek: ethnoi) means "nations"---specifically pagan ones who do not have the Gospel.

These are my thoughts. Please let me know what you think.

Shalom.
Steve.

[R' Y'hoshua Moshe]

I believe in the General Theology category there is a discussion on the things you are enquiring about, or you may start a new thread.

Shalom,

Reuel