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Post by alon on Jul 31, 2014 7:46:51 GMT -8
It is a positive commandment to fear Hashem.
Devarim 6:13(OJB) Thou shalt fear Hashem Eloheicha, and serve Him, and shalt swear by Shmo.
Devarim 10:20(OJB) Thou shalt fear Hashem Eloheicha; Him shalt thou serve, and to Him shalt thou have thy deveykus, and swear by Shmo.
Deuteronomy 6:13 (CJB) You are to fear ADONAI your God, serve him and swear by his name.
Deuteronomy 10:20 (CJB) You are to fear ADONAI your God, serve him, cling to him and swear by his name.
The way toward reverent fear of Him is like the way to love Him, as outlined above.When a sin comes to one's hand, he is duty-bound to arouse his spirit [to know] that the holy One, blessed is He, watches every action of human beings.
... reverent fear includes the requirement not to pronounce the name of Heaven [God] in vain, purposelessly.
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Post by alon on Jul 31, 2014 7:51:32 GMT -8
fear- H3372 ירא
yârê' yaw-ray' A primitive root; to fear; morally to revere; causatively to frighten: - affright, be (make) afraid, dread (-ful), (put in) fear (-ful, -fully, -ing). (be had in) reverence (-end), X see, terrible (act, -ness, thing).
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Post by alon on Jul 31, 2014 8:19:57 GMT -8
fear- yare ירא
According to Dr. Frank Seekins, the first letter, yud, is a hand, representing a work or a deed. The resh is a head, or face; and aleph is an ox, mighty and first before the plow, often representing HaShem. So pictographically yare, fear, is what turns our face to God.
Now obviously there is more to it than this one thing, however fear of the Lord is used many times in the Bible. Gen 20:11, 42:18; Ex 9:30, 18:21; Lev 19:14, 19:32, 25:17, 25:36; Josh 24:14, 1 Sam 12:14, to Rev 14:7. In fact, a quick search appears to show it to be used in almost, if not every book in the Bible. So are we so depraved that we must be motivated by fear to love God?
Dan C
edit: I am assuming, of course, that no one has a problem with this commandment as written; if so please feel free to comment on that as well.
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Post by alon on Aug 1, 2014 11:29:25 GMT -8
So nobody is going to call me on this? I thought sure jimmie would have been hammerin' on me by now; "alon, you're crazy! You missed out the "(be had in) reverence (-end) part! Can't we love God because we hold Him in reverence? And "terrible" didn't mean bad back when Strong compiled his book of words- it mean mighty, awesome, great! So we can revere our awesome, and mighty great God and love Him because of these things too!"
So now while everyone is agreeing with that, let me add this- admit it, aren't you just a little bit afraid too?
Dan (well  ) C
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Post by Questor on Aug 3, 2014 21:43:59 GMT -8
So nobody is going to call me on this? I thought sure jimmie would have been hammerin' on me by now; "alon, you're crazy! You missed out the "(be had in) reverence (-end) part! Can't we love God because we hold Him in reverence? And "terrible" didn't mean bad back when Strong compiled his book of words- it mean mighty, awesome, great! So we can revere our awesome, and mighty great God and love Him because of these things too!"
So now while everyone is agreeing with that, let me add this- admit it, aren't you just a little bit afraid too?
Dan (well ) C  /penitence as I literally dropped to the floor (which being disabled the way I am should prevent, but didn't...bone melting fear...put my forehead on my palms on the floor, kowtowing to a G-d I cannot see, but was suddenly in terror of. I do not know what I did or did not do, but I was sure begging for mercy really fast, and I do understand the overwhelming nature of somehow being aware of the true nature of G-d...totally awe inspiring, and terrifying.
So, when you ask if I know what it is like to fall into the hands of an angry G-d, I would have to say no...I understand a little of what it would be like, but I rested in Yehoshua, begged for forgiveness, and instantly, the feeling was gone.
I was surprised at it happening at all, and even more astonished that I instantly pled for mercy through the blood of Yehoshua...I didn't know I could have that much presence of mind under such shattering circumstances. |
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Post by Questor on Aug 3, 2014 21:49:34 GMT -8
It is a positive commandment to fear Hashem.Devarim 6:13(OJB) Thou shalt fear Hashem Eloheicha, and serve Him, and shalt swear by Shmo.
Devarim 10:20(OJB) Thou shalt fear Hashem Eloheicha; Him shalt thou serve, and to Him shalt thou have thy deveykus, and swear by Shmo.
Deuteronomy 6:13 (CJB) You are to fear ADONAI your God, serve him and swear by his name.
Deuteronomy 10:20 (CJB) You are to fear ADONAI your God, serve him, cling to him and swear by his name. The way toward reverent fear of Him is like the way to love Him, as outlined above. When a sin comes to one's hand, he is duty-bound to arouse his spirit [to know] that the Holy One, blessed is He, watches every action of human beings.
... reverent fear includes the requirement not to pronounce the name of Heaven [God] in vain, purposelessly.
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Post by alon on Aug 4, 2014 1:46:57 GMT -8
It is a positive commandment to fear Hashem.Devarim 6:13(OJB) Thou shalt fear Hashem Eloheicha, and serve Him, and shalt swear by Shmo.
Devarim 10:20(OJB) Thou shalt fear Hashem Eloheicha; Him shalt thou serve, and to Him shalt thou have thy deveykus, and swear by Shmo.
Deuteronomy 6:13 (CJB) You are to fear ADONAI your God, serve him and swear by his name.
Deuteronomy 10:20 (CJB) You are to fear ADONAI your God, serve him, cling to him and swear by his name. The way toward reverent fear of Him is like the way to love Him, as outlined above. When a sin comes to one's hand, he is duty-bound to arouse his spirit [to know] that the Holy One, blessed is He, watches every action of human beings.
... reverent fear includes the requirement not to pronounce the name of Heaven [God] in vain, purposelessly.
Using His name in a common, coarse or vulgar manner is "in vain" as it accomplishes nothing except blasphemy. So I think we're probably OK on that one.
I will say to any younger folk out there, it is far easier to never get into the habbit of using His name in vain (cussing) than it is to break the habit later. No matter how much I want to change, it still comes out in the most - unfortunate?- places and times!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 4:41:37 GMT -8
Taking God's name not only entails using His name as a swear word but also in making useless vows and swearing upon God in order to say that what you are saying is truth. I'm sure you have heard when someone says, "I swear to God". Meaning they want you to believe them if they swore to God that they are telling you the truth. God talks about swearing upon His name even in taking vows in His name. There is a book out there on the Ten Commandments written by a Jewish author. He went into detail about taking God's name in vain. It certainly opened my eyes. Below is the link. www.goodreads.com/book/show/7600286-the-ten-commandments Now to fearing God, I don't believe that God wants us to be afraid of Him because He is God but I believe to fear Him means to give Him reverence and respect. And that if we don't than we will be dealing with a Holy God. Moriah Ruth |
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Post by jimmie on Aug 4, 2014 9:10:01 GMT -8
So nobody is going to call me on this? I thought sure jimmie would have been hammerin' on me by now; "alon, you're crazy! You missed out the "(be had in) reverence (-end) part! Can't we love God because we hold Him in reverence? And "terrible" didn't mean bad back when Strong compiled his book of words- it mean mighty, awesome, great! So we can revere our awesome, and mighty great God and love Him because of these things too!"
So now while everyone is agreeing with that, let me add this- admit it, aren't you just a little bit afraid too?
Dan (well ) C Alon, I have been on vacation. I went to the Creation Museum in Kentucky. Very good place to visit. Their motto is “God created and I believe.” As is the case with most words English, Hebrew or others, they have more than one meaning. In this case we have: Fear: Extreme reverence or awe, as toward a supreme power. Reverence is from respect from the Latin respecere, re (back or again) and sperece (to look). If you are going to fear/reverence/respect God, it will take more than a glance. (Exo 3:3 KJV) And Moses said, I will now turn aside, and see this great sight, why the bush is not burnt. |
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Post by alon on Aug 4, 2014 13:18:35 GMT -8
So nobody is going to call me on this? I thought sure jimmie would have been hammerin' on me by now; "alon, you're crazy! You missed out the "(be had in) reverence (-end) part! Can't we love God because we hold Him in reverence? And "terrible" didn't mean bad back when Strong compiled his book of words- it mean mighty, awesome, great! So we can revere our awesome, and mighty great God and love Him because of these things too!"
So now while everyone is agreeing with that, let me add this- admit it, aren't you just a little bit afraid too?
Dan (well ) C Alon, I have been on vacation. I went to the Creation Museum in Kentucky. Very good place to visit. Their motto is “God created and I believe.” As is the case with most words English, Hebrew or others, they have more than one meaning. In this case we have: Fear: Extreme reverence or awe, as toward a supreme power. Reverence is from respect from the Latin respecere, re (back or again) and sperece (to look). If you are going to fear/reverence/respect God, it will take more than a glance. (Exo 3:3 KJV) And Moses said, I will now turn aside, and see this great sight, why the bush is not burnt.
But soon as you're rested up, we need a report of some kind on this Creation Museum in Kentucky. Any awesome revelations, insights, etc.? I'm sure it was heavy mainC, but they tend to do terrible (as in great, awesome, mighty good) work with stuff like this! Let us know how it was, if you culd.
Dan C
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/penitence as I literally dropped to the floor (which being disabled the way I am should prevent, but didn't...bone melting fear...put my forehead on my palms on the floor, kowtowing to a G-d I cannot see, but was suddenly in terror of. I do not know what I did or did not do, but I was sure begging for mercy really fast, and I do understand the overwhelming nature of somehow being aware of the true nature of G-d...totally awe inspiring, and terrifying.
