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Post by alon on May 22, 2014 11:42:02 GMT -8
1 Kings 21:17 But the word of ADONAI came to Eliyahu from Tishbe: 18 "Get up, go down to meet Ach'av king of Isra'el, who lives in Shomron. Right now he is in the vineyard of Navot; he has gone down there to take possession of it. 19 This is what you are to say to him: 'Here is what ADONAI says: "You have committed murder, and now you are stealing the victim's property!"' Also say to him, 'Here is what ADONAI says: "In the very place where dogs licked up the blood of Navot, dogs will lick up your blood - yours!" '" 20 Ach'av said to Eliyahu, "My enemy! You've found me!" He answered, "Yes, I have found you; because you have given yourself over to do what is evil from ADONAI's perspective. 21 'Here,' [says ADONAI,] 'I am bringing disaster on you! I will sweep you away completely; I will cut off from Ach'av every male, whether a slave or free in Isra'el. 22 I will make your house like the house of Yarov'am the son of N'vat and like the house of Ba'sha the son of Achiyah for provoking my anger and leading Isra'el into sin.' 23 ADONAI also said this about Izevel: 'The dogs will eat Izevel by the wall around Yizre'el. 24 If someone from the line of Ach'av dies in the city, the dogs will eat him; if he dies in the countryside, the vultures will eat him.'" 25 Truly, there was never anyone like Ach'av. Stirred up by his wife Izevel, he gave himself over to do what is evil from ADONAI's perspective. 26 His behavior in following idols was grossly abominable; he did everything the Emori had done, whom ADONAI expelled ahead of the people of Isra'el. 27 Ach'av, on hearing these words, tore his clothes, put sackcloth on himself and fasted. He slept in the sackcloth and went about dejectedly. 28 Then the word of ADONAI came to Eliyahu from Tishbe: 29 "Do you see how Ach'av has humbled himself before me? Since he has humbled himself before me, I will not bring this evil during his lifetime; but during his son's lifetime I will bring the evil on his house."
Achav wa one of the most evil, self indulgent kings Isra'el ever had- and that is saying a lot! His actions led to the destruction of his entire household- not to mention the effect on his kingdom. Yet towards the end he apparently repented. It seems to me his repentance is a bit disingenuous, as he never got rid of Izevel (Jezebel) and she certainly never repented. She was a sleeper and a witch, according to the prophet Hoshea. God did honor Achav's repentance as genuine, at least in his lifetime. Maybe "shallow" is a better term to describe Achav. So the question is, does this type repentance seem to be enough for salvation? Can we repent, yet hang onto our worldly ways, our families who are involved in evil, and still be saved?
I know, salvation is between God and the individual, and we can not always completely discern the truth of an individuals standing before God. However the question is relevant and important to us, as we are all "working out our salvation" (Phil 2:12). Most of us have family and friends who are vehemently opposed to the Messianic message. At what point should we put them away? Or should we even do this?
Dan C
Achav wa one of the most evil, self indulgent kings Isra'el ever had- and that is saying a lot! His actions led to the destruction of his entire household- not to mention the effect on his kingdom. Yet towards the end he apparently repented. It seems to me his repentance is a bit disingenuous, as he never got rid of Izevel (Jezebel) and she certainly never repented. She was a sleeper and a witch, according to the prophet Hoshea. God did honor Achav's repentance as genuine, at least in his lifetime. Maybe "shallow" is a better term to describe Achav. So the question is, does this type repentance seem to be enough for salvation? Can we repent, yet hang onto our worldly ways, our families who are involved in evil, and still be saved?
I know, salvation is between God and the individual, and we can not always completely discern the truth of an individuals standing before God. However the question is relevant and important to us, as we are all "working out our salvation" (Phil 2:12). Most of us have family and friends who are vehemently opposed to the Messianic message. At what point should we put them away? Or should we even do this?
Dan C
