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Post by maranguape on Sept 3, 2018 14:11:02 GMT -8
Questor Said: Innermost Essence In addition to his material self, however, man possesses a soul which is unique among all of God's creations. In describing the creation of Adam, the  says, "God formed man out of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils a soul-breath of life (Nishmat Chaim). Man [thus] became a living creature (Nefesh Chaya)" (Genesis 2:7). Even as Yeshua's body was taken of the DNA in Miriam's egg, and altered to be as G-d chose, including being masculine, rather than a derivative clone of Miriam...human, masculine, subject to the Yetzer Hara, yet able to overcome that impulse because of the greatness of the soul-breath of life...a special, pre-existant part of G-d. The is teaching us that the human soul came directly from God's innermost Essence in the same way that a breath issues forth from a person's lungs and chest cavity. The rest of creation, on the other hand, was created with speech, which is a lower level, for just as sound waves are generated by a person but do not contain any air from the lungs, so the rest of creation emanates from God's Power but not from His Essence. It is thus that G-d himself can extend a portion of himself, that has always existed with him, into a tent of human flesh, and that this is not in the least unusual in Jewish thought...just not always considered of G-d's own Neshama, sending a part of the Neshama to be a Nefesh in Mashiach Yeshua! Read more: theloveofgod.proboards.com/thread/3378/elohim-who-fills-universe-exist#ixzz5Q4q0hLCy. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Maranguape says: When HaShem formed man from the dust of the earth, He breathed the spirit aka the breath of life into man's nostrils and man became a living soul. (Genesis 2:7) To become is to be, not to possess. Hence, man is a living soul; not the possessor of a soul. When man passes away, the body goes back to the dust an the spirit aka the breath of life returns to HaShem Who gave it. (Ecclesiastes 12:7) Soul is only the name given to the composition of the spirit aka the breath of life with the body. At death, that composition is simply undone and man aka the soul ceases to exist and the body is taken to Sheol aka the grave, the eternal home of the dead. (II Samuel 12:23; Psalm 49:12,20) JPS translation. So, Questor, as you can see, our similarities are touching for being so close but, at the same time as different as they can be. |
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Post by alon on Sept 3, 2018 15:14:19 GMT -8
Questor Said: Innermost Essence In addition to his material self, however, man possesses a soul which is unique among all of God's creations. In describing the creation of Adam, the says, "God formed man out of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils a soul-breath of life (Nishmat Chaim). Man [thus] became a living creature (Nefesh Chaya)" (Genesis 2:7). Even as Yeshua's body was taken of the DNA in Miriam's egg, and altered to be as G-d chose, including being masculine, rather than a derivative clone of Miriam...human, masculine, subject to the Yetzer Hara, yet able to overcome that impulse because of the greatness of the soul-breath of life...a special, pre-existant part of G-d. The is teaching us that the human soul came directly from God's innermost Essence in the same way that a breath issues forth from a person's lungs and chest cavity. The rest of creation, on the other hand, was created with speech, which is a lower level, for just as sound waves are generated by a person but do not contain any air from the lungs, so the rest of creation emanates from God's Power but not from His Essence. It is thus that G-d himself can extend a portion of himself, that has always existed with him, into a tent of human flesh, and that this is not in the least unusual in Jewish thought...just not always considered of G-d's own Neshama, sending a part of the Neshama to be a Nefesh in Mashiach Yeshua! Read more: theloveofgod.proboards.com/thread/3378/elohim-who-fills-universe-exist#ixzz5Q4q0hLCy. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Maranguape says: When HaShem formed man from the dust of the earth, He breathed the spirit aka the breath of life into man's nostrils and man became a living soul. (Genesis 2:7) To become is to be, not to possess. Hence, man is a living soul; not the possessor of a soul. When man passes away, the body goes back to the dust an the spirit aka the breath of life returns to HaShem Who gave it. (Ecclesiastes 12:7) Soul is only the name given to the composition of the spirit aka the breath of life with the body. At death, that composition is simply undone and man aka the soul ceases to exist and the body is taken to Sheol aka the grave, the eternal home of the dead. (II Samuel 12:23; Psalm 49:12,20) JPS translation. So, Questor, as you can see, our similarities are touching for being so close but, at the same time as different as they can be.
But on the other hand, you indicate that God did something special for man- He personally breathed the breath of life into man's nostrils. So God did something different with man. He gave us an immortal soul; one which won't die because He, the Self Existent One chooses to keep our soul alive. And therefore you are correct (though you got there through the back door) when you say our soul is not our own. By God it was given, and by Him it is sustained. So it belongs to Him.
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says, "God formed man out of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils a soul-breath of life (Nishmat Chaim). Man [thus] became a living creature (Nefesh Chaya)" (Genesis 2:7). 
