Spirit Visitor

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I believe I have a spirit visitor, or my term, a spook in my apartment.

An hour ago I was in the kitchen washing dishes and I heard this thump, like a big heavy book had fallen onto the floor in the computer room. My first thought was that my cat was exploring. So I went to check and the cat was sitting in the living room on the trunk that was by the window. So I check the computer room. There was a big binder that had fallen unto the floor. I thought it was odd but I went back to the kitchen to continue washing the dishes.

A half hour later I heard something fall again in the computer room. That time my cat was outside as I had let him out. So I go and check to see what it was that had fallen. My husband had this piece of drift wood that he had gotten from the beach. It was sitting on the shelf. It was the item that had fallen unto the floor. Again I though this odd.

So I out loud said, "Stop playing with things in the this room. Get lost in Jesus's name."

Nothing has happened since. However this morning I had gotten up at 7:00 am. I was on my way to the washroom. As I was going to the washroom I had seen this flash of light or something white flash by. My thought was, "Did I see that or is it because I just woke up and my mind has not fully awakened yet?" So I forgot about and went to do my thing.

Yet during the beginning of the week I had seen and heard some things that I thought was a bit off. But of course I think it was just me. Tuesday morning I had gotten up at 6:00 am. I was sitting in my little sitting area in the kitchen. There was no light on. I was just sitting there waking up. As I was sitting there I saw this small shadow go by the shelf and out the patio window. Again it was just a flash and again I thought it was just me.

Then on Tuesday night I was getting supper ready for my husband. As I was preparing I heard this clicking noise on the floor as if there was a cat walking across the floor. Of course I thought that it was my cat. So I am talking to my cat doing the kitty talk. I turned around to look at him and he was no where in the kitchen. So I check the living room and he is still sitting by the window on the trunk. I thought to myself, "What on earth was that, that I just heard?" Again I thought I must have heard wrong and continued making supper.

But in one week this is happening. Am I losing it or is there some spirit visitor? If someone states that I am losing it please put me out of my misery.

However in the area that I live there is witchcraft and a witches coven. Whenever I am at the store working, which is most weekends I see witches come in all the time. Majority of them do not come near me because they see Jesus in me or something. I find it interesting when they come in. Because they will be going down an aisle and when they come to me they stop turn around and go back down the aisle and they avoid me like the plague. One that comes in will not make eye contact with me at all. There are two witches that come in together and they glare at me from a distance.

One time I was doing a demo at the store and I was walking around with the samples. And I happened to come to the produce section and give a lady a sample. I happened to look up and from across the floor there is this witch just glaring at me. I smiled and continued on my way. She stayed far away from me.

But I am used to that and it doesn't bother me. I am just on my guard when they are around. As for the spirit visitors in my home, do they really have to be there? They are very annoying.

I must go on my way, as I am working today. Yes on the Sabbath no less. I will be back later in the evening.

Moriah Ruth

[Frank T. Clark]

This sounds like an extension of the discussion about spirits. I despair when I see people struggling with belief in disembodied spirits. The word spirit can be very confusing so I stick to dictionary definitions:

1. the principle of conscious life; the vital principle in humans, animating the body or mediating between body and soul.
2. the incorporeal part of humans: present in spirit though absent in body.
3. the soul regarded as separating from the body at death.
4. conscious, incorporeal being, as opposed to matter: the world of spirit.
5. a supernatural, incorporeal being, especially one inhabiting a place, object, etc., or having a particular character: evil spirits.

I will try to keep this brief. I have no particular problem with the first definition. As I stated in the other discussion, I believe the Bible teaches body + sprit(breath) = soul.

Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

There is no consciousness or personality to the general spirit (not to be confused with the Holy Spirit, which is part of the Godhead), which animates all created things.

The later definitions become increasingly Satan inspired. He was a liar from the very start when he said:

Gen 3:4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

Satan created the concept of an "incorporeal being" to perpetuate his lie, to deceive, mislead, and confuse people. Stick to God's Word!

Now, the possible explanation for what you are observing is an attempt by evil angels with bodies we cannot see attempting to "deceive, mislead, and confuse" you. Trust in God's Word!

Jas 4:7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
Jas 4:8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.

There is no such thing as spirits, spooks, or ghosts. It is only the evil angels, for holy angels would never "deceive, mislead, and confuse" you.

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First of all I am not referring to the spirit of man. I am finished with that discussion.

Secondly, I was referring to demonic spirits, I just put in milder terms.

Thirdly, I am not deceived by these beings, I know what they are.

Moriah Ruth

[Frank T. Clark]

Sorry to offend you. I misunderstood your communication.

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Frank, you did not offend me at all. I get misunderstood all the time. It must be because I am a woman...lol

Moriah Ruth

[Questor]

Mar 29, 2014 5:30:52 GMT -8 @moriahruth7 said:

I believe I have a spirit visitor, or my term, a spook in my apartment.

An hour ago I was in the kitchen washing dishes and I heard this thump, like a big heavy book had fallen onto the floor in the computer room. My first thought was that my cat was exploring. So I went to check and the cat was sitting in the living room on the trunk that was by the window. So I check the computer room. There was a big binder that had fallen unto the floor. I thought it was odd but I went back to the kitchen to continue washing the dishes.

A half hour later I heard something fall again in the computer room. That time my cat was outside as I had let him out. So I go and check to see what it was that had fallen. My husband had this piece of drift wood that he had gotten from the beach. It was sitting on the shelf. It was the item that had fallen unto the floor. Again I though this odd.

So I out loud said, "Stop playing with things in the this room. Get lost in Jesus's name."

Nothing has happened since. However this morning I had gotten up at 7:00 am. I was on my way to the washroom. As I was going to the washroom I had seen this flash of light or something white flash by. My thought was, "Did I see that or is it because I just woke up and my mind has not fully awakened yet?" So I forgot about and went to do my thing.

Yet during the beginning of the week I had seen and heard some things that I thought was a bit off. But of course I think it was just me. Tuesday morning I had gotten up at 6:00 am. I was sitting in my little sitting area in the kitchen. There was no light on. I was just sitting there waking up. As I was sitting there I saw this small shadow go by the shelf and out the patio window. Again it was just a flash and again I thought it was just me.

Then on Tuesday night I was getting supper ready for my husband. As I was preparing I heard this clicking noise on the floor as if there was a cat walking across the floor. Of course I thought that it was my cat. So I am talking to my cat doing the kitty talk. I turned around to look at him and he was no where in the kitchen. So I check the living room and he is still sitting by the window on the trunk. I thought to myself, "What on earth was that, that I just heard?" Again I thought I must have heard wrong and continued making supper.

But in one week this is happening. Am I losing it or is there some spirit visitor? If someone states that I am losing it please put me out of my misery.

However in the area that I live there is witchcraft and a witches coven. Whenever I am at the store working, which is most weekends I see witches come in all the time. Majority of them do not come near me because they see Jesus in me or something. I find it interesting when they come in. Because they will be going down an aisle and when they come to me they stop turn around and go back down the aisle and they avoid me like the plague. One that comes in will not make eye contact with me at all. There are two witches that come in together and they glare at me from a distance.

One time I was doing a demo at the store and I was walking around with the samples. And I happened to come to the produce section and give a lady a sample. I happened to look up and from across the floor there is this witch just glaring at me. I smiled and continued on my way. She stayed far away from me.

But I am used to that and it doesn't bother me. I am just on my guard when they are around. As for the spirit visitors in my home, do they really have to be there? They are very annoying.

I must go on my way, as I am working today. Yes on the Sabbath no less. I will be back later in the evening.

Moriah Ruth

Alas, it happens. I have had long term visitors in the past, but because it was childish and non-destructive in it's behavior, I did noting about it except to acknowledge it's presence, and tell it to behave itself. Rattling the glasses in the cupboards over and over, running up and down the stairs...noisily...moving objects. It was not a demon, just a spirit. He/She moved from house to house for some time where I lived, then moved on. And both Believers and non-Believers were aware of the noise and presence.  Suddenly swinging chandeliers with no earthquake is someone trying to get your attention.

Demon lights are a problem. It is as if they are laughing at you, and saying, "I'm here, and there is nothing you can do about it." And yes, athese things are heard and seen by non-believers in our mountain valley.  We too have a large presence of witches, and when I see the moving brights lights at a distance, I sometime wonder just WHO is living at this house or that. And having big streams of red lights seeming to follow you or chase you at night is startling, but my spirit vision is not that clear unless I have been fasting too long.  Makes me glad I don't have to see more of what is out there, since i have friends who see a lot.

The quick dark or bright shadow movements at the side of your vision can be stress and exhaustion (yes, shadows can be bright), but if it retains a certain density of darkness, pooling or drifting, it's more likely a demon. Cast it out, and tell it not to come back.

The Ruach recently suggested to me that I use very short form orders to demons...using orders that are not long, like naming the demons you want to go all the time, although that can be helpful if you are under heavy attack. 'Satan, demons, get thee gone in the name of Jehoshua, and don't come back!" will pretty much cover it. But they do seem to make the occasional persistent attack, and you have to start reading scripture out load after casting out to make them understand that you are serious. A good hour of reading out load can do wonders, and if you have someone to help you, have them read different passages while you read something else. I usually read the psalms or the prophets. Demons do not like hearing about YHVH. Praise music works well also, after a quick casting out...changes the atmosphere at once because you are taking the sword of the spirit out and brandishing it.

[alon]

I've had to face spirits in the form of heavy attacks. They were oppressive- I could feel them there, but for the most part I couldn't see them so much as just know a presence was there. I had to reach way back in my past when I called some by name for nefarious purposes. Two of them I felt like were choking me, but when I called them by name and asked God to remove them they were lifted. There were several, and I just identified them mostly by what they were doing to me, prayed and let God deal with them.

If you are having manifestations now, I'd get in prayer, confront them and ask God to remove them. Otherwise they may contaminate your house and make it attractive to others. Confess any sin in your life first, pray for help then go on the offensive. Praising God as you pray for their dismissal is a powerful weapon.

Once they are gone, keep praying for covering. As you get more into observance you may come under several types of attack. You don't want to have to deal with these spirits as well.

Dan C

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Thanks Alon.