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Post by alon on Feb 27, 2014 19:37:27 GMT -8
We are told by Christianity that Yeshua hated the "Pharisees", and that He remade His religion in direct opposition to their teachings. However much, if not most of what Yeshua taught came straight out of the Talmud- the Mishna, Oral Tradition as it was at the time of Yeshua, and as codified by the descendants of the P'rushim at the end of the 2nd cen. CE. Here is a small sampling:
Marqos 2:27 “Then he said to them, "Shabbat was made for mankind, not mankind for Shabbat;”
Rabbi Jonathan ben Joseph said: For it is holy unto you; I.e., it [the Sabbath] is committed to your hands, not you to its hands. - Talmud: Yoma 85b
Mattithyahu 25:45 “And he will answer them, `Yes! I tell you that whenever you refused to do it for the least important of these people, you refused to do it for me!'”
One who betrays his fellow, it is as if he has betrayed God. - Tosefta Sh'vuot, ch. 3
Mattithyahu 5:21-22 “"You have heard that our fathers were told, `Do not murder,'l and that anyone who commits murder will be subject to judgment. But I tell you that anyone who nurses anger against his brother will be subject to judgment; that whoever calls his brother, `You good-for-nothing!' will be brought before the Sanhedrin; that whoever says, `Fool!' incurs the penalty of burning in the fire of Gei-Hinnom!” He who publicly shames his neighbour is as though he shed blood.- Talmud: Bava Mezia 58b
Mattithyahu 5:28 “But I tell you that a man who even looks at a woman with the purpose of lusting after her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.” One who gazes lustfully upon the small finger of a married woman, it is as if he has committed adultery with her.- Kallah, Ch. 1
Mattithyahu 6: 1 "Be careful not to parade your acts of tzedakah in front of people in order to be seen by them! If you do, you have no reward from your Father in heaven.” In the case of the recital of the Shema’, since everybody else recites, and he also recites, it does not look like showing off on his part; but in the case of the month of Ab, since everybody else does work and he does no work, it looks like showing off.- Talmud: Berachot 17b
Mattithyahu 6:7 “And when you pray, don't babble on and on like the pagans, who think God will hear them better if they talk a lot.”
If one draws out his prayer and expects therefore its fulfilment, he will in the end suffer vexation of heart, as it says, Hope deferred maketh the heart sick. - Talmud: Berachot 55a
Mattithyahu 5:37 “37 Just let your `Yes' be a simple `Yes,' and your `No' a simple `No'; anything more than this has its origin in evil.” A righteous yes is a Yes; a righteous no is No. - Talmud: Bava Batra 49b
Mattithyahu 11:25 “It was at that time that Yeshua said, "I thank you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that you concealed these things from the sophisticated and educated and revealed them to ordinary folks.”
Rabbi Johanan said: Since the Temple was destroyed, prophecy has been taken from prophets and given to fools and children. - Talmud: Bava Batra 12b
Mattithyahu 23:8 “But you are not to let yourselves be called `Rabbi'; because you have one Rabbi, and you are all each other's brothers.”
Shemaiah used to say: love work, hate acting the superior, and do not bring thyself to the knowledge of the ruling authority. - Mishnah: Avot 1:10
Mattithyahu 24:44 “Therefore you too must always be ready, for the Son of Man will come when you are not expecting him.” Even as R. Zera, who, whenever he chanced upon scholars engaged thereon [I.e., in calculating the time of the Messiah's coming], would say to them: I beg of you, do not postpone it, for it has been taught: Three come unawares: Messiah, a found article and a scorpion. - Talmud: Sanhedrin 97a
So it becomes clearer that Yeshua did not disagree with everything the P'rushim said. He taught directly from the Oral Tradition, which was thouroughly "Pharisaic", as any good P'rush Rabbi should. It also becomes much more abundantly clear that we have been lied to by the early "church fathers"; a lie that is happily perpetuated in every mainstream Christian pulpit today.
Again, I say we need to take a better look at what we've been taught the Bible says, learn for ourselves what it really says, and separate ourseves from our pagan past.
Dan C
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Post by jimmie on Feb 28, 2014 12:03:43 GMT -8
Yet he said, “Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!” seven times in Matthew 23. So it is not like Jesus was a Pharisee. Rather he kept Gods law. The Pharisee also kept some of God’s law but added just a little leaven. That leaven is the doctrine of men. The Protestants claim “sola scriptura” and Catholics laugh at them because the Protestants still follow Catholic Doctrine, Sunday worship, holidays etc. I didn’t lay down Christian traditions to pick up Pharisaic ones.
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Post by alon on Feb 28, 2014 15:49:34 GMT -8
Yet he said, “Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!” seven times in Matthew 23. So it is not like Jesus was a Pharisee. Rather he kept Gods law. The Pharisee also kept some of God’s law but added just a little leaven. That leaven is the doctrine of men. The Protestants claim “sola scriptura” and Catholics laugh at them because the Protestants still follow Catholic Doctrine, Sunday worship, holidays etc. I didn’t lay down Christian traditions to pick up Pharisaic ones. Actually, it probably IS like Yeshua was a P'rush. At the time, you did not argue like that outside your sect, unless a grievouse infraction was being commited in the Temple itself. So ...
Casting all P'rushim as evil is like the implications that all or even most Jews of the day rejected Yeshua. Both conclusions are easily drawn from the corrupted Kethuvei Shelachim we've been handed down by the Greek redacted version of the "New Testament." It is like saying all customs of the P'rushim were bad. There is nothing wrong with customs, as long as they do not contradict scripture or become a burden- which some of them did, granted. However many are beautiful illustrations of scripture and the grace of HaShem (i.e. bedikat chametz). Some are fun, and showcase the awesome power of Elohim Tse'va'ot (Channukah).
I agree that God's Law comes before all. But to restrict yourself to just that is to miss much of the beauty, the reverence, and the joy of your Messianic faith and true Jewish heritage. No one is asking you to take on any more than you can, or to follow Rabbinic Judaism (which is modern Pharisaic tradition). But I am suggesting that you might not take the anti-Semitic view of the Christian churches either. You've already thrown off the practices of Sunday and the holidays, which is commendable. Few do this. I'm just suggesting that looking at some traditions might benefit you as well.
I don't keep many of them myself. But the ones I do keep help keep my focus where it belongs, and adds to my faith in ways that have to be experienced to be understood.
Dan C
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Post by Questor on Feb 28, 2014 20:57:19 GMT -8
Yet he said, “Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!” seven times in Matthew 23. So it is not like Jesus was a Pharisee. Rather he kept Gods law. The Pharisee also kept some of God’s law but added just a little leaven. That leaven is the doctrine of men. The Protestants claim “sola scriptura” and Catholics laugh at them because the Protestants still follow Catholic Doctrine, Sunday worship, holidays etc. I didn’t lay down Christian traditions to pick up Pharisaic ones. Actually, it probably IS like Yeshua was a P'rush. At the time, you did not argue like that outside your sect, unless a grievouse infraction was being commited in the Temple itself. So ... As far as one can tell, Yeshua was a P'rush. Many of his parables are very similar to Hillel's school, and much of what He argued about was about the ruling Pharisee's having gone too far in binding up the with traditions of men. But much of it was cultural, and was taught to Yeshua from His cradle. He chose what to keep, and what not to of the Oral traditions, but Yeshua most definately kept all of , and so should we.
The fear of Christianity is that in keeping , they are crucifying Christ over again.
Hebrews 6:4-8 (CJB)
4 For when people have once been enlightened, tasted the heavenly gift, become sharers in the Ruach HaKodesh,
5 and tasted the goodness of God’s Word and the powers of the ‘olam haba —
6 and then have fallen away — it is impossible to renew them so that they turn from their sin, as long as for themselves they keep executing the Son of God on the stake all over again and keep holding him up to public contempt. 7 For the land (Believers) that soaks up frequent rains (Sermons and Teachings) then brings forth a crop (Fruit) useful to its owners receives a blessing from God;
8 but if it keeps producing thorns and thistles, it fails the test and is close to being cursed; in the end, it will be burned.
It is unfortunate that the Christian Church teaches that following the is antithetical to grace, when it is sin, which if embraced as a way of life, would then be holding up Yeshua to public contempt.Casting all P'rushim as evil is like the implications that all or even most Jews of the day rejected Yeshua. Both conclusions are easily drawn from the corrupted Kethuvei Shelachim we've been handed down by the Greek redacted version of the "New Testament." It is like saying all customs of the P'rushim were bad. There is nothing wrong with customs, as long as they do not contradict scripture or become a burden- which some of them did, granted. However many are beautiful illustrations of scripture and the grace of HaShem (i.e. bedikat chametz). Some are fun, and showcase the awesome power of Elohim Tse'va'ot (Channukah). Alas that there are P'rushim amongst Christians making up rules and regs of their own, saying that following the feasts, keeping Shabbat, and the other ordinances of YHVH are Judaizing believers, when the only Judaizing is forcing the Jewishness of Judaic Rabbinical conversion on pagans against their will. Yeshua allows salvation purely by faith, knowing that if a Believer sits under the reading of the , the Ruach haKodesh will in the end draw them to do what the Ruach haKodesh requires.I agree that God's Law comes before all. But to restrict yourself to just that is to miss much of the beauty, the reverence, and the joy of your Messianic faith and true Jewish heritage. No one is asking you to take on any more than you can, or to follow Rabbinic Judaism (which is modern Pharisaic tradition). But I am suggesting that you might not take the anti-Semitic view of the Christian churches either. You've already thrown off the practices of Sunday and the holidays, which is commendable. Few do this. I'm just suggesting that looking at some traditions might benefit you as well. I don't keep many of them myself. But the ones I do keep help keep my focus where it belongs, and adds to my faith in ways that have to be experienced to be understood. Dan C There is a great deal of beauty in the rituals and practices of Judaism that most Christians do not experience because most Jews hold us to be without merit to receive instruction in them unless we disavow Yeshua to learn them. What I hope for is that one of the Messianic congregations enacts and films all the daily, Sabbatical and yearly rituals, in English, so that we can adopt them; adapt and adopt them; or even just admire them.
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Post by alon on Mar 1, 2014 10:32:13 GMT -8
The fear of Christianity is that they will have to be obedient.
There are many books and resources that deal with the feasts, Shabbat, holidays and customs. I know it isn't the same as experiencing it first hand, but they can give a sort of a feel for it, as well as understanding of what is happening and why. It's a lot like keeping kashrut- I can't strictly do it due to my circumstances, however I do what I can as an act of obedience. And I try to at least understand the holidays and customs, and do what I am able to do to the extent I am able to do it.
Dan C
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Post by Questor on Mar 1, 2014 22:48:39 GMT -8
The fear of Christianity is that they will have to be obedient. Perhaps to many Christians, it is. To me, it is not the obedience that should be in question, but whose rules are being followed. Yeshua laid down a lot of rules, that if kept by a Believer, cover all that a Jew of his time would know, and some that they might not have thought of.
However, what has been taught since the destruction of the Temple in AD 70 is questionable to me, for just as Christianity was trying to stamp out Judaism in their personal belief, so Judaiism was trying to stamp out any hint of Grace. To this day they curse any of the minim...the sectarians, Nazarenes, Christians, or perhaps even Reform Jews!
Earlier today, I was reading the Jewish Standard Newspaper, and following the debates over Women and tefillen...I had no idea that young women were being allowed, much less obligated to lay tefillen at all, in Conservative High Schools, while the Orthodoxy freak out at the very idea, when Malmonides presumably admitted that woman might do so...it was not forbidden. Presumably the argument is all over the tense of the original commandment in that it was in the masculine singular, and I presume whomever originally wrote the down at the time of Moses would know to whom he was speaking.
Certainly the traditions are clear enough...women were not required to keep the ceremony and ritual because they were already busy! I take it, because of this, that the men had absolutely nothing to do for some years in the desert, and were only arguing about what and how to do everything. It sounds like they were all yeshiva boys, with never a thought other than splitting this hair or that.
For me, I had a massive upswelling of NOOOO! at the idea of any woman being suddenly being forced to lay tefillen as a Daughter of Abraham just to be accounted equal! Men and women are not very much alike, but we are equal in G-d's eyes, and in most of life's efforts that we have need to be.
And it is that same sense of rebellion that I feel about the traditions of all the Elders, going back to Yehoshua, son of Nun, that were passed on as memories and notes to the next generation, added to, amended, and passed on, generation after generation, until there are more rules than there are actual Commandments or Instructions
I do not know whose rules they are, and if YHVH wanted so much of a burden on the Jews just to expose our human sin nature, it is working really well on me to even consider it.
If that is so, my sin nature is showing. I, although I am growing more observant as a Messianic Gentile, like many Christians, do not want to be told what to do by anyone but the Holy Spirit in order to be righteous in my observance of , because we have no trustworthy guide other than .
As for tefillen, the law reads to wear them on the hand and forehead...that sounds like all the time to me, not just at morning and evening prayers.
Deuteronomy 4:2 (CJB)
2 In order to obey the mitzvot of Adonai your God which I am giving you, do not add to what I am saying, and do not subtract from it.
Deuteronomy 5:32-33 (CJB)
32 “Therefore you are to be careful to do as Adonai your God has ordered you; you are not to deviate either to the right or the left.
33 You are to follow the entire way which Adonai your God has ordered you; so that you will live, things will go well with you, and you will live long in the land you are about to possess.
Deuteronomy 6:4-9 (CJB)
4 (A:vi, S: v) “Sh’ma, Yisra’el! Adonai Eloheinu, Adonai echad [Hear, Isra’el! Adonai our God, Adonai is one];
5 and you are to love Adonai your God with all your heart, all your being and all your resources.
6 These words, which I am ordering you today, are to be on your heart;
7 and you are to teach them carefully to your children. You are to talk about them when you sit at home, when you are traveling on the road, when you lie down and when you get up.
8 Tie them on your hand as a sign, put them at the front of a headband around your forehead,
9 and write them on the door-frames of your house and on your gates.
There are many books and resources that deal with the feasts, Shabbat, holidays and customs. I know it isn't the same as experiencing it first hand, but they can give a sort of a feel for it, as well as understanding of what is happening and why. It's a lot like keeping kashrut- I can't strictly do it due to my circumstances, however I do what I can as an act of obedience. And I try to at least understand the holidays and customs, and do what I am able to do to the extent I am able to do it. Dan C Yup...me too. With passover coming up, I was rather saddened to be reading that most Jews do not eat Lamb on Passover anymore...and that seems a to me, as I generally do, in remembrance of Yeshua. That and unleavened bread that I make myself.
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Post by alon on Mar 2, 2014 6:30:25 GMT -8
As for tefillen, the law reads to wear them on the hand and forehead...that sounds like all the time to me, not just at morning and evening prayers. 8 Tie them on your hand as a sign, put them at the front of a headband around your forehead, There would seem to be some practicality issues there. Even if you were to use a modified system consisting of a headband and a simple tie around the hand with flat pouches, or even a verse carved in leather straps, they wouldn't last long on most jobs I've done. Even if they did last, they'd be soaked in everything from grease and oil to cow and horse manure; not to mention every farm chemical, and biohazards when I was on the ambulance crew ... By the end of the week, I'd have to send them to Hanford and get a new set!
Dan C
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Post by Yedidyah on Mar 2, 2014 9:19:23 GMT -8
As for tefillen, the law reads to wear them on the hand and forehead...that sounds like all the time to me, not just at morning and evening prayers. 8 Tie them on your hand as a sign, put them at the front of a headband around your forehead, There would seem to be some practicality issues there. Even if you were to use a modified system consisting of a headband and a simple tie around the hand with flat pouches, or even a verse carved in leather straps, they wouldn't last long on most jobs I've done. Even if they did last, they'd be soaked in everything from grease and oil to cow and horse manure; not to mention every farm chemical, and biohazards when I was on the ambulance crew ... By the end of the week, I'd have to send them to Hanford and get a new set! Dan C So the question is would you feel comfortable wearing the name of Hashem on your body when you go into public bathrooms on top of what alon mentioned above. Farm chemicals, household cleaners all things that would end up on the written text. I will keep the my Kosher Tefillin Yeshua never once argued with how they were wearing their tefillin just not to make it to big. We have tefillin found close to that time frame so I have no reason to think it was not created then like it is created now. We also have debates on not wearing to large of tefillin also among the rabbis so historically we have confirmation in what we have today, something that is hard under most circumstances. Shalom!
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Post by Questor on Mar 4, 2014 3:12:55 GMT -8
I can easily see a narrow band of leather, with the words had printed on in Hebrew...probably an oil based paint, and coated with a protective resin to guard against wear and tear. It is just one more way to use the textual Hebrew I am learning...I would have to practice, but I've done calligraphy in English before, so why not?
The reason I see the wearing of tefillen all the time you're are out and about is to label oneself as a follow of YHVH, and enable strangers to ask what the headband is for, or the wristlet...so that one could witness to them. It is thus both to set one apart, and to spread the gospel. And it meets the commandment as written in the .
I am thinking of just how I want to do this...to make it wearable and discreet, but still present from the time I get dressed, making it a ever present daily part of my life.
What one needs to know is the exact things written for tefillen, and if they are specified in the .
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Post by alon on Mar 4, 2014 16:55:44 GMT -8
I can easily see a narrow band of leather, with the words had printed on in Hebrew...probably an oil based paint, and coated with a protective resin to guard against wear and tear. It is just one more way to use the textual Hebrew I am learning...I would have to practice, but I've done calligraphy in English before, so why not?
The reason I see the wearing of tefillen all the time you're are out and about is to label oneself as a follow of YHVH, and enable strangers to ask what the headband is for, or the wristlet...so that one could witness to them. It is thus both to set one apart, and to spread the gospel. And it meets the commandment as written in the .
I am thinking of just how I want to do this...to make it wearable and discreet, but still present from the time I get dressed, making it a ever present daily part of my life.
What one needs to know is the exact things written for tefillen, and if they are specified in the . Wearing tzitziyot would show you to be set apart for HaShem's service, and you'd be more likely to get asked about them than a leather wristband. And they are supposed to be a daily, constant reminder to you, so they are a part of your life already. Why the need to add to this something that is meant to help enhance your prayer life? Wearing these modified tefillin would make something set apart for a specific purpose seem very ordinary.
Having worked with leather as a side business, I can tell you that you won't find a seal that will keep it from absorbing all kinds of nastiness; and while sealers can help protect your painted calligraphy, it will still get damaged in every day wear- even in a home or office environment.
Seems like you are making a (sort of) simple thing very difficult, and I fail to see anything gained here. But if you do it, put up some pics and let us know how it goes.
Dan C
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Post by Questor on Mar 4, 2014 22:12:49 GMT -8
I can easily see a narrow band of leather, with the words had printed on in Hebrew...probably an oil based paint, and coated with a protective resin to guard against wear and tear. It is just one more way to use the textual Hebrew I am learning...I would have to practice, but I've done calligraphy in English before, so why not?
The reason I see the wearing of tefillen all the time you're are out and about is to label oneself as a follow of YHVH, and enable strangers to ask what the headband is for, or the wristlet...so that one could witness to them. It is thus both to set one apart, and to spread the gospel. And it meets the commandment as written in the .
I am thinking of just how I want to do this...to make it wearable and discreet, but still present from the time I get dressed, making it a ever present daily part of my life.
What one needs to know is the exact things written for tefillen, and if they are specified in the . Wearing tzitziyot would show you to be set apart for HaShem's service, and you'd be more likely to get asked about them than a leather wristband. And they are supposed to be a daily, constant reminder to you, so they are a part of your life already. Why the need to add to this something that is meant to help enhance your prayer life? Wearing these modified tefillin would make something set apart for a specific purpose seem very ordinary. Having worked with leather as a side business, I can tell you that you won't find a seal that will keep it from absorbing all kinds of nastiness; and while sealers can help protect your painted calligraphy, it will still get damaged in every day wear- even in a home or office environment. Seems like you are making a (sort of) simple thing very difficult, and I fail to see anything gained here. But if you do it, put up some pics and let us know how it goes. Dan C Are tefillen only to be used as an aid to prayer life? Please show me in the how you get that instruction, please. I have always read it as simply the next directive in a long list of directives of what we are to do.
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Post by alon on Mar 5, 2014 2:19:26 GMT -8
No, the instruction is not in . The evidence is more inferred from other scripture and historical references. As Yedidyah pointed out: I don't yet lay tefillin, but as I said I have worked with leather, so I can give insight from that perspective. The decision is up to you how you practice your faith. But you did put this up on a board where there is a reasonable expectancy that others would give advice. Take it as that- just advice.
Dan C
In case you're interested: I used to make leather cases; tool bags, sheaths, holsters ... when I was on the ambulance crew, I made a belt holster for the tools I needed. It carried 3 forceps, a watch, oxygen wrench, bandage scissors, utility shears, penlight, tourniquet, and more- all in a package smaller than the commercial nylon holsters that carried 3 or 4 tools, two of which were guaranteed to be drug out and dropped when you grabbed the third. Mine were all in their own form fitted compartment, and they snapped into place without mechanical catches. You couldn't shake them out, yet they came to hand easily. The inside (rough) was lined with dental dams, glued on securely, and the edges and face(s) were sealed with a commercial leather sealer. Seams and welts were sealed as well. I did good work. But I can tell you that, in the end there was no way I could keep the leather from absorbing things it shouldn't. It's just how leather is.
I had to retire it and start using nylon, however I never found a nylon rig that I liked. But oh well, 'tis what i'tis. I used the leather rig around the place for minor vet work. It's still serviceable.
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Post by Yedidyah on Mar 5, 2014 10:31:43 GMT -8
Shalom! Questor if you can find historically a type of tefillin that has been found that confirms with your idea of how it should be made then go ahead and do so. Like I have said before if you were to gather the evidence to the type of tefillin we use now or the type you are talking about creating yourself the weight of proof lays with the rabbinic idea of Kosher tefillin. I know people who do things like what you are talking about but just a heads up no Jewish person is going to agree with you on how you are wearing it. Most would be offended that you would wear Hashems name into the bathroom. I personally don't recommend such ideas because they are just another stumbling block in front of the Jewish people. Why are you so against the Jewish way of wearing tefillin? Yeshua never debated what you are talking about, never debated when it should be worn. So by example of what historical documents and the Bible itself we can't see anything pointing to anything else than what we have now. Why are so many so against doing things the "Jewish way"?
Yedidyah
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Post by Questor on Mar 6, 2014 3:04:32 GMT -8
No, the instruction is not in . The evidence is more inferred from other scripture and historical references. As Yedidyah pointed out: I don't yet lay tefillin, but as I said I have worked with leather, so I can give insight from that perspective. The decision is up to you how you practice your faith. But you did put this up on a board where there is a reasonable expectancy that others would give advice. Take it as that- just advice. Dan C I don't in the least mind advice...and I value the information you have given about working with leather...it will be interesting to see how it works out, or if I choose another method of wearing the commandments as is stated in the .Shalom! Questor if you can find historically a type of tefillin that has been found that confirms with your idea of how it should be made then go ahead and do so. Like I have said before if you were to gather the evidence to the type of tefillin we use now or the type you are talking about creating yourself the weight of proof lays with the rabbinic idea of Kosher tefillin.I know people who do things like what you are talking about but just a heads up no Jewish person is going to agree with you on how you are wearing it. Most would be offended that you would wear Hashems name into the bathroom. I personally don't recommend such ideas because they are just another stumbling block in front of the Jewish people. I think it is pointless for Messianic Gentiles to try and convince Rabbinical Jews to choose Yeshua, because even if we behave just as an Orthodox Jew might, we are not worth emulating. We are not Jews, and therefore inferior. Most Rabbinical Jews are quite plain about that,..freely and openly so.
Only Messianic Jews are going to have a chance there, so what I do only matters to YHVH, and to the Christians I can convince to become observant...not by emulating Orthodox Rabbinical Jewishness, or even Conservative Jewishness, but simply by being obedient in the plainest, simplest way possible, so that that they could imagine themselves also doing it, and only for the reason of coming up higher in Yeshua, because that is how Christians tend to think of things.Why are you so against the Jewish way of wearing tefillin? Yeshua never debated what you are talking about, never debated when it should be worn. Yeshua never spoke to a person indoctrinated in 1900 years of Greco/Roman thought...even the Roman Centurion only had a pagan backdrop to fight against, and the Samaritans were despised despite their customs and beliefs being similar. Nor did Yeshua mind being fully inculcated in Jewish customs...He was JEWISH, and living in Israel.So by example of what historical documents and the Bible itself we can't see anything pointing to anything else than what we have now. Why are so many so against doing things the "Jewish way"? My entire desire with following all the directives, commandments and instructions in the Mosaic and Renewed Covenants, is to follow it as Moses wrote it down, which is how YHVH told him to write it. I am not trying to impress anyone with my obedience, nor to shock anyone. I am trying to obey what is in the Scriptures...no more, no less. Deuteronomy 4:2 (CJB)
2 In order to obey the mitzvot of Adonai your God which I am giving you, do not add to what I am saying, and do not subtract from it.
Deuteronomy 5:32-33 (CJB)
32 “Therefore you are to be careful to do as Adonai your God has ordered you; you are not to deviate either to the right or the left. 33 You are to follow the entire way which Adonai your God has ordered you; so that you will live, things will go well with you, and you will live long in the land you are about to possess.
Deuteronomy 6:4-9 (CJB)
4 “Sh’ma, Yisra’el! Adonai Eloheinu, Adonai echad [Hear, Isra’el! Adonai our God, Adonai is one]; 5 and you are to love Adonai your God with all your heart, all your being and all your resources. 6 These words, which I am ordering you today, are to be on your heart; 7 and you are to teach them carefully to your children. You are to talk about them when you sit at home, when you are traveling on the road, when you lie down and when you get up. 8 Tie them on your hand as a sign, put them at the front of a headband around your forehead, 9 and write them on the door-frames of your house and on your gates. Being a Jew is a great honor and a great burden, but it is an honor that I am not accorded, nor should I be. I did not convert to Judaism, and even if I did, as a Believer in Yeshua, I would never be accepted as a Jew. I do not have the blood tie that makes me a Jew, and once converted to Judaism I am only adopted, and then unadopted, since by following Yeshua I would be considered to have converted back out of Judaism again.
Yeshua does not require me to be a Jew in order to be saved. YHVH, Yeshua and the Ruach all want me to separate from the world, however, and keep the , as well as Yeshua's complete explanation of what the encompasses...particularly loving our Brethren.I know I am grafted into Israel as a wild branch. But even this wild branch knows where the commandments of YHVH and Yeshua leave off, and the directives of man are added on.
The oral traditions and the Talmud are a culture to me, not religious observance according to YHVH, but according only to man, and I do not want the burden of the Jewish culture added to my own requirements for obedience. Not even the Prophets ever dared to change what was written in the , so why should I consider a bunch of notes and ideas that were codified after the Temple was destroyed on the best ways to do things, accord to the last persons teaching on it? And no matter how accurately the oral traditions were remembered, who authorized them? Only the Tenakh and the Brit Chadashah can be considered inspired of YHVH. The remainder may be wise, and even beautiful, but they are not commanded by YHVH. In fact, they are added to the and taught as required behavior in defiance of YHVH's commands. If you recall, Yeshua was not always happy about it.
As for being against things Jewish, that would put me against my Messiah, and my G-d. I value much that is Jewish, but most of my admiration is for what I know of the culture between 3400 BC, and 100 AD. Even so, my admiration does not extend to adopting that ancient culture in exchange for my own in this century, any more than I would adopt the Judaic customs of this century in exchange for my own, which is what I really would be doing.
What is more to the point is why should I give up my culture, and my perceived best way of doing things within that culture in regard to in exchange for the culture of Rabbinical Judaism, when that Rabbinical Judaism is against Yeshua?
I know that Rabbinical and Messianic Jews both find little value in my history or my culture, because they have such a rich and complete one of their own. My culture is primarily Anglo Saxon, and that will never be done with until I change this body for another, and for whatever culture Yeshua endows me with at that time, for until YHVH or Yeshua start giving additional directives about what they already gave to Moses in the , and to the Apostles in the Brit Chadashah, I am going to assume They meant what They said the first time.
Before I was Messianic, I was Sola Scriptura.
I still am.
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