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Post by cgpb on Jan 16, 2014 6:23:08 GMT -8
I just wanted to post this thread before posting other threads as I feel this helps sort out any wrong attitudes or stances a person may have causing them to be unteachable for future posts.
Unlocking the Mysteries to life
In order to unlock the mysteries to life, a person needs to be teachable / correctable. Without constructive criticism or being teachable and open to receive knowledge, a person can never understand truth as they ought. For light brings truth, and if a person refuses to be taught light, neither can they receive the truth. A person needs to see and understand for themselves the error they are in, this then makes them more receptive to everything.
These errors are subject to the following things:
A person has to understand that they haven’t been exposed to the fullness of knowledge that exists in all creation. They have to realize that the knowledge that they have, (often given through the world system, mainstream media etc., which is subject to limitations / control) is only a tiny fraction compared to the fullness of knowledge that exists.
Simply said, a person must acknowledge that their knowledge is not everything that is out there, and that their decisions and choices are therefore subject to this limited knowledge.
Knowledge unlocks the mysteries to life, however to attain knowledge, one must first understand the following points:
• The unexplained isn’t unexplainable • False interpretations don’t mean false revelation • Understanding context • Understanding language • Understanding people’s motives • Interpreting difficult information in the light of clear information • Don’t build a whole thesis on obscure information • Understanding the nature of “seeming contradictions” • Truth is found in what is revealed and not in everything recorded • Understanding the law of progressive revelation
1. The unexplained isn’t unexplainable – It is a mistake to assume that what has not yet been explained never will be or can be explained. It is a grave mistake to give up further exploration on anything you seek answers to. The unexplained should actually be your motivation to find an explanation.
For example, many unexplainable natural phenomena that scholars or scientists once had no answer for, have now been answered through the unyielding patience of various disciplines. This knowledge should then cause a person to realize that what they may consider false or wrong now, may actually be proved true at some future point. Often times reasons for a person assuming what they themselves can’t explain is therefore unexplainable, can be rooted in pride or in an unwillingness to receive an explanation, especially if the explanation threatens their mindset.
2. False interpretations don’t mean false revelation – People can often interpret something wrong because of the following reasons:
• Self-interests involved • Wrong or selfish ambition • Lack of understanding • Insufficient knowledge at a given time • Blindness • Pride etc…
Therefore, people’s mistakes in interpreting any given information wrongly (subject to the above), does not nullify initial truth.
3. Understanding context – Any person seeking truth seeks to understand truth in its proper context. Context refers to the parts directly before and after a word or sentence that influence its meaning. Right understanding is right context. Having the right context is subject to:
• Not presuming that your mindset or thought processes are like the person’s conveying the information. This means not applying the mindset you are subject to now as to the way things have always been or should always be.
• Asking yourself - Do I truly have an understanding of the history, way of life or how things were done in a given time period that the information is subject to, before I draw conclusions?
• Understanding the language style of the information – languages changed substantially through the centuries – modern English can never truly be compared to the English of the 1600s or to the language of writers such as Mark Twain etc….
• Information must not always be interpreted literally but in the light of the result that was intended – the intent of the instruction – so that the message is correctly understood. Failure to note the meaning in light of its context is the main error of those who find fault with truth.
4. Understanding language – It is important to understand the language of the message being conveyed. Understanding language is subject to:
• A non-literary style. • Understanding various expressions of speech (e.g. exaggeration, non-technical language, idioms etc…) and literary devices. • This means that various expressions of speech shouldn’t always be taken literally, then pitted against other information. The context dictates whether a term should be taken literally or figuratively. • For e.g. If a person says “I have a million things to do today” we understand what is meant and don’t take it literally. This means that people should then apply this same reasoning when seeking truth. • Rounding off numbers. • Using common sense of other surrounding factors to work out the message. • General statements don’t mean universal promises. Do not seize upon information that offers general truths and then point with glee to obvious exceptions. One must learn to differentiate between general guidance and universal assurance. • Different people with different personalities emphasize different points.
5. Understanding people’s motives – People do many different things for many different reasons - it is important to understand the reason or the why people do things.
• It needs to be understood if the reason why a person is doing something is reasonable. • Is the person blinded or deluded.
6. Interpreting difficult information in the light of clear information - Some information is hard to understand often due to its obscurity.
One piece of information may appear to contradict another. When one has understood the meaning of clear information, then one can understand obscure information in the light of clear information, and that whatever the obscure means, it cannot mean something that flatly contradicts the clear information.
7. Don’t build a whole thesis from obscure information – People often times become scholastic over one word in a given text for different reasons, and then build a whole thesis over it. They go through life trying to come to some agreement or compromise over its origin or precise meaning, yet fail to see the essence of what is being taught. Don’t build a whole thesis or belief based on any obscure information. When any information isn’t clear, never conclude that it means something that opposes any other plain and straight forward information given elsewhere in many places. 8. Understanding the nature of “seeming contradictions” - various laws concerning “seeming contradictions” that one needs to understand include:
• Every individual person perceives different things at different times, for different reasons. This means that any given information may contain variations, but the essence of the account isn’t contradictory but one and the same. For e.g. Two people see two cats running up a tree and are asked to write an account of what they saw. The first person writes that there were two cats in the tree because that is what they saw from where they were standing and at the time they were standing there.
The second person states that there were three cats in the tree because from where they were standing they saw the two cats in the tree plus an additional cat that was already sitting in the tree, which the first person couldn’t see from where they were standing. This is not a contradiction to the essence of the information, but a slight variation in their accounts of the story.
This law should be expected from unique individuals giving an account of any event, each through their own perspective. Realistically, no witnesses of any event or series of events would write in exactly the same way, just as no three artists who were each asked to paint the same scene would provide the exact same details in their paintings. The general scene would be the same, but the details would differ.
This then also means that:
• The exclusion of information from a party doesn’t make it contradictory. • That incomplete information doesn’t make it false information. Given the example of the two cats above, the person who only saw two cats (incomplete information) doesn’t nullify the one who saw three cats (complete information). The two accounts are actually complimentary, supplying more information when both are taken together.
Therefore slight differences in an account oftentimes confirm its realistic truthfulness rather than refute it.
9. Truth is found in what is revealed and not in everything recorded – It is a mistake to assume that everything contained in a given piece of information is commended by the one giving it. Unless one understands this distinction, one may then incorrectly conclude that error is being taught or affirmed, when in reality it isn’t.
10. Understanding the law of progressive revelation – It is important to understand that in life information isn’t revealed all at once, nor are the same conditions laid down for every period of time. Different information is given at different times to fit the particular circumstance. This is not contradictory to what was given before.
For e.g. the fact that someone may drink a hot drink on a cold day, does not mean that they cannot drink a cold drink on a hot day, or that they always drink only hot drinks, for different times and situations call for different things.
The problem is that people do understand these things, as they know how to apply them to areas where their self-interests are involved, but use them as defense mechanisms when being confronted by truth, thus revealing the hypocritical nature in people. This shows people are flawed and corrupted to start off with.
Therefore one needs to filter out all these things when seeking truth before one can unlock the mysteries to life.
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Post by Questor on Jan 16, 2014 19:47:19 GMT -8
I just wanted to post this thread before posting other threads as I feel this helps sort out any wrong attitudes or stances a person may have causing them to be unteachable for future posts.
Unlocking the Mysteries to life
In order to unlock the mysteries to life, a person needs to be teachable / correctable. Without constructive criticism or being teachable and open to receive knowledge, a person can never understand truth as they ought. For light brings truth, and if a person refuses to be taught light, neither can they receive the truth. A person needs to see and understand for themselves the error they are in, this then makes them more receptive to everything.
These errors are subject to the following things:
A person has to understand that they haven’t been exposed to the fullness of knowledge that exists in all creation. They have to realize that the knowledge that they have, (often given through the world system, mainstream media etc., which is subject to limitations / control) is only a tiny fraction compared to the fullness of knowledge that exists.
Simply said, a person must acknowledge that their knowledge is not everything that is out there, and that their decisions and choices are therefore subject to this limited knowledge.
Knowledge unlocks the mysteries to life, however to attain knowledge, one must first understand the following points:
• The unexplained isn’t unexplainable • False interpretations don’t mean false revelation • Understanding context • Understanding language • Understanding people’s motives • Interpreting difficult information in the light of clear information • Don’t build a whole thesis on obscure information • Understanding the nature of “seeming contradictions” • Truth is found in what is revealed and not in everything recorded • Understanding the law of progressive revelation
1. The unexplained isn’t unexplainable – It is a mistake to assume that what has not yet been explained never will be or can be explained. It is a grave mistake to give up further exploration on anything you seek answers to. The unexplained should actually be your motivation to find an explanation. For example, many unexplainable natural phenomena that scholars or scientists once had no answer for, have now been answered through the unyielding patience of various disciplines. This knowledge should then cause a person to realize that what they may consider false or wrong now, may actually be proved true at some future point. Often times reasons for a person assuming what they themselves can’t explain is therefore unexplainable, can be rooted in pride or in an unwillingness to receive an explanation, especially if the explanation threatens their mindset. Yes. Often this shows up when people stick their heads in the sand, for whatever reason. Those that are scientists will often believe something that they cannot see, by making deductions from observed data and making theories up to describe them, yet, when faced with a Big Bang, they mostly refuse to consider the Creator of the universe they claim to understand.2. False interpretations don’t mean false revelation – People can often interpret something wrong because of the following reasons: • Self-interests involved • Wrong or selfish ambition • Lack of understanding • Insufficient knowledge at a given time • Blindness • Pride etc…Therefore, people’s mistakes in interpreting any given information wrongly (subject to the above), does not nullify initial truth. I agree. If you do not leave your ego at the door before setting out to explore, you will find only what you were looking for. The information should be looked at as it is, with no preconceptions.3. Understanding context – Any person seeking truth seeks to understand truth in its proper context. Context refers to the parts directly before and after a word or sentence that influence its meaning. Right understanding is right context. Having the right context is subject to: • Not presuming that your mindset or thought processes are like the person’s conveying the information. This means not applying the mindset you are subject to now as to the way things have always been or should always be. • Asking yourself - Do I truly have an understanding of the history, way of life or how things were done in a given time period that the information is subject to, before I draw conclusions? • Understanding the language style of the information – languages changed substantially through the centuries – modern English can never truly be compared to the English of the 1600s or to the language of writers such as Mark Twain etc…. • Information must not always be interpreted literally but in the light of the result that was intended – the intent of the instruction – so that the message is correctly understood. Failure to note the meaning in light of its context is the main error of those who find fault with truth. I detest this when I see a poster use a handful of single line quotes from Scripture. Effectively, they are using a very small portion of the truth to make a lie and confuse others.
4. Understanding language – It is important to understand the language of the message being conveyed. Understanding language is subject to: • A non-literary style. • Understanding various expressions of speech (e.g. exaggeration, non-technical language, idioms etc…) and literary devices. • This means that various expressions of speech shouldn’t always be taken literally, then pitted against other information. The context dictates whether a term should be taken literally or figuratively. • For e.g. If a person says “I have a million things to do today” we understand what is meant and don’t take it literally. This means that people should then apply this same reasoning when seeking truth. • Rounding off numbers. • Using common sense of other surrounding factors to work out the message. • General statements don’t mean universal promises. Do not seize upon information that offers general truths and then point with glee to obvious exceptions. One must learn to differentiate between general guidance and universal assurance. • Different people with different personalities emphasize different points.
A clear, plain style is to be appreciated, with good, commonsensible description, and a refusal to make broad generalizations.5. Understanding people’s motives – People do many different things for many different reasons - it is important to understand the reason or the why people do things. • It needs to be understood if the reason why a person is doing something is reasonable. • Is the person blinded or deluded. This may be difficult without numerous examinations of their statements, for it is often difficult to figure out those reasons...they are often hidden purposefully to enable a stirring up of controversy that one only see's later, perhaps after the danger has been done. It is generally easier to see if the person is blinded or delude, for they are generally up front with their viewpoint.
Motive is more difficult to understand, for often the people involved are not aware of the reasons they do what they do.
6. Interpreting difficult information in the light of clear information - Some information is hard to understand often due to its obscurity. One piece of information may appear to contradict another. When one has understood the meaning of clear information, then one can understand obscure information in the light of clear information, and that whatever the obscure means, it cannot mean something that flatly contradicts the clear information. Again, this is where clear description comes in, and the appropriate sources of the texts reference, and if possible, where they can be found, so that the reader can fully examine the proofs offered for an argument.7. Don’t build a whole thesis from obscure information – People often times become scholastic over one word in a given text for different reasons, and then build a whole thesis over it. They go through life trying to come to some agreement or compromise over its origin or precise meaning, yet fail to see the essence of what is being taught. Don’t build a whole thesis or belief based on any obscure information. When any information isn’t clear, never conclude that it means something that opposes any other plain and straight forward information given elsewhere in many places. To me, this often are people simply being mysterious, and a bit pompous, as if they are the 'initiate' into the mysteries that they know, and no other can properly understand without years of appropriate study.
It would be best if two seperate texts or sources were used to validate a point.
8. Understanding the nature of “seeming contradictions” - various laws concerning “seeming contradictions” that one needs to understand include: • Every individual person perceives different things at different times, for different reasons. This means that any given information may contain variations, but the essence of the account isn’t contradictory but one and the same. For e.g. Two people see two cats running up a tree and are asked to write an account of what they saw. The first person writes that there were two cats in the tree because that is what they saw from where they were standing and at the time they were standing there. The second person states that there were three cats in the tree because from where they were standing they saw the two cats in the tree plus an additional cat that was already sitting in the tree, which the first person couldn’t see from where they were standing. This is not a contradiction to the essence of the information, but a slight variation in their accounts of the story. This law should be expected from unique individuals giving an account of any event, each through their own perspective. Realistically, no witnesses of any event or series of events would write in exactly the same way, just as no three artists who were each asked to paint the same scene would provide the exact same details in their paintings. The general scene would be the same, but the details would differ. This then also means that: • The exclusion of information from a party doesn’t make it contradictory. • That incomplete information doesn’t make it false information. Given the example of the two cats above, the person who only saw two cats (incomplete information) doesn’t nullify the one who saw three cats (complete information). The two accounts are actually complimentary, supplying more information when both are taken together. Therefore slight differences in an account oftentimes confirm its realistic truthfulness rather than refute it. This is obvious in a reading of the Gospels. Where the same incident is mentioned, it is often described differently, be cause each witness saw something slightly different, or were paying attention to different aspects of the incident witnessed.9. Truth is found in what is revealed and not in everything recorded – It is a mistake to assume that everything contained in a given piece of information is commended by the one giving it. Unless one understands this distinction, one may then incorrectly conclude that error is being taught or affirmed, when in reality it isn’t. Yes, very true, however it is often difficult to understand someone if they are not making distinctions between what they are using as sources, and what they agree with, and why.
10. Understanding the law of progressive revelation – It is important to understand that in life information isn’t revealed all at once, nor are the same conditions laid down for every period of time. Different information is given at different times to fit the particular circumstance. This is not contradictory to what was given before. For e.g. the fact that someone may drink a hot drink on a cold day, does not mean that they cannot drink a cold drink on a hot day, or that they always drink only hot drinks, for different times and situations call for different things. The problem is that people do understand these things, as they know how to apply them to areas where their self-interests are involved, but use them as defense mechanisms when being confronted by truth, thus revealing the hypocritical nature in people. This shows people are flawed and corrupted to start off with. Therefore one needs to filter out all these things when seeking truth before one can unlock the mysteries to life. [/p][/quote] A very solid summary of what to be on the watch for.
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