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Post by yiska on Apr 16, 2013 11:16:47 GMT -8
Okay I need some help here. I don't usually air my business on board, so here goes.....
I am married to a wonderful man but...... he truly has a potty mouth and I tell him I don't like it. I think what I say doesn't get to him. I tell him that G-d doesn't like you using his name in vain and I don't like it either. I have told him lots of times and I feel like I am not getting through to him. People will say, well he is a man and a man can say whatever they want.. *scoffs* I don't agree with that. Just because they are a man, to me, that does not make him a man, that is a poor excuse if you ask me!!!
Any ideas on how to approach this and what to say? I am truly sick of it. I pray and pray about it.. And will continue to do so.
He does believe what I believe in, just doesn't want to participate in it. I guess he is "comfortable" in his own ways. He tells me he is not ready. I think he will never be ready and it is his choice. I will continue to pray for him.
Do you find it offensive when someone says G-ds name in vain?
I do!
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Post by messianicmama on Apr 16, 2013 13:30:37 GMT -8
Do you mean like,
"Oh my Gd" or the tetragramaton (YHVH)? Gd isn't His name so that forest bother me at all. It's just a title. It does bother me when people use the tetragramaton in a casual way.
I believe that taking his name in vain is not referring to that. It's more about misrepresenting the character of Gd.
Hope this helps!
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Post by alon on Apr 16, 2013 19:33:14 GMT -8
Do you mean like, "Oh my Gd" or the tetragramaton (YHVH)? Gd isn't His name so that forest bother me at all. It's just a title. It does bother me when people use the tetragramaton in a casual way. I believe that taking his name in vain is not referring to that. It's more about misrepresenting the character of Gd. It is true that "God" isn't His name. It can, in fact refer to ANY deity. However, it is what most of us know Him by. I cursed like that for many years (though I'd have considered "Oh my God" to be too tame to utter  ), and I can tell you it is precisely meant to cheapen and besmirch His character. It is also false bravado- posing, if you will. "I can spit in the face of God; ain't I just cool?" As always though, this tells us more about the besmircher than the besmirched. It is every bit taking His name in vain, and that is exactly how it is intended. Trust me. I do agree that using His real name casually is also using it in vain. We probably go too far in writing the name "God" as "G-d" or similar. As you say, it is really more a title than a name. I'll do that if I think it might offend someone, but not usually. I use the conventional capital "G" if I mean the Big God, and a small "g" if I mean those little posers flitting 'round out there teaching us small minded people to pose as well. And if I mean the Tetragramaton, I'll write the Tetragramaton. I think it is equally offensive to withhold His name when it is appropriate to use it. He gave it to us, after all. Dan C |
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Post by alon on Apr 16, 2013 20:06:03 GMT -8
yiska, a few things here: ... I am married to a wonderful man but...... he truly has a potty mouth and I tell him I don't like it. I think what I say doesn't get to him. I tell him that G-d doesn't like you using his name in vain and I don't like it either. I have told him lots of times and I feel like I am not getting through to him. Approach it from the point that every time he does it, it is disrespectful to you. He'll tell you it isn't, but stick to the point that it is, and it cheapens your relationship. Women will tend to focus on their feelings, but to get through to most men you'll have to focus more on what it does. Especially as he apparently has some unresolved issues somewhere that he needs to deal with, and feelings are probably the last things he wants to admit to See my remarks on posers in my reply to mamma. Most men today put on a type of bravado because we are unsure who we are or are supposed to be, both in society and in the family. I recommend you get him a copy of "Wild at Heart" by John Eldredge, and let him read it when he is ready. Another good book is "The Forgotten Blessing" by Aaron Fruh. I think so highly of this one I've given several copies to people I know that needed it. Then I would question whether he really believes it. We can acknowledge something is true, while still either being in rebellion against it or even just having an academic understanding but no change of heart. Belief is easy. Faith a little harder, but not much. Hope is tough, and trust the hardest of all. Until we can trust Him to lead us where He wants us to be, we'll just stay where we are comfortable until when we are ready- and that time is, as you said, never. Hope this helps. As always, use a lot of discernment with forum advice, even (some would say "especially") mine!  No face to face and limited information can cause misunderstanding. In any event, I'll pray for you. Dan C |
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Post by Frank T. Clark on Apr 22, 2013 14:05:19 GMT -8
My experience with bad language of any sort from anyone is that when you show the proper example it makes an impression. I never try to change anyone's behaviour but I have never failed to see my example change the way people act around me. I suspect that if you make an issue of bad language, you just might end up causing it to continue. Allow God to impress people in His own way and in His own time using your example and you just might be surprised. It doesn't hurt to make your point with a little cringe when you hear something you find hurtful...  |
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Post by Micha'el on Apr 22, 2013 20:48:06 GMT -8
My experience with bad language of any sort from anyone is that when you show the proper example it makes an impression. I never try to change anyone's behaviour but I have never failed to see it change the way people act around me. I suspect that if you make an issue of bad language, you just might end up causing it to continue. Allow God to impress people in His own way and in His own time using your example and you just might be surprised. It doesn't hurt to cringe a little when you hear something you find hurtful... Shalom, Good witness. I would add that there is a difference when we are dealing with those of similar faith and the level of their faith. When someone is trying to keep  , let them have it, in love. When they are not even close to keeping , cut them slack and pray. Micha"el  |
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Post by yiska on Apr 28, 2013 10:06:44 GMT -8
Thank you for your help. I think if we are to set an example that we are yeshua's light of the world we can bright a bit brighter and hope that though who see it will come to there comman ground and hopefully stop altogether. One can only hope! |
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No face to face and limited information can cause misunderstanding. In any event, I'll pray for you.
