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Post by yiska on Mar 10, 2013 8:47:46 GMT -8
I saw this movie at my congregation and I thought it has alot of meaning to it. I read some of the reviews and their comments from the link I provided below, they must have been non jewish, because I dont think they got the whole plot. Here is the link below if you are interesting in renting this movie. I actually liked it. Some people are different that way when it comes to likes and dislikes. movies.yahoo.com/movie/ushpizin/here are some clips from youtube, sure am glad that i looked into it, enjoy... just a few clips  |
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Post by Micha'el on Mar 10, 2013 13:37:53 GMT -8
Welcome to the forum Yiska,
We have begun watching watching Ushpizin during Sukkot at our synogogue. I have seen it twice now. It's always fun to watch and enjoy the way it ends the most.
Shalom,
Micha'el
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Post by yiska on Mar 10, 2013 15:23:50 GMT -8
Yeah I saw it for the very first time , wasn;t sure what I was watching, then I got into it. I loved it!
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Post by R' Y'hoshua Moshe on Mar 10, 2013 17:53:14 GMT -8
B"H Shalom Yiska, Yes, I do enjoy watching Ushpizin each year during Sukkot...As Micha'el mentioned, it has kindof become a minhag for our community. Although...the only thing that slightly concerns me is the amount of drinking that takes place, and although the Rabbi (main character) makes the point that it isn't forbidden to drink a little, but that drinking too much is forbidden...I think he drank too much  I am just concerned that some may think that this type of behavour is acceptable and use it as an excuse to drink too much alcohol. Shalom b'Yeshua, R' Reuel |
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Post by yiska on Mar 11, 2013 9:15:34 GMT -8
Shalom Admin, You do have a point, but even to a point some people do fall ... Not sure if that is what the movie is saying that its OK to drink that much. I drink ever blue moon which is like twice a year. I hardly drink. I don't like getting drunk, its not for me. But we should know our limits when it comes to drinking, unfortunately some don't  But... you DO have a POINT. |
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Post by rroath on Feb 10, 2016 12:14:34 GMT -8
B"H ...I am just concerned that some may think that this type of behavour is acceptable and use it as an excuse to drink too much alcohol. Shalom b'Yeshua, R' Reuel
Amein. It seems this is becoming more and more of an issue in the "Messianic" movement. In fact, I have recently seen and heard of some groups having Purim parties and Sukkot (and in one case Pesach) with "No Children Allowed" due to the excess of alcohol. For me, this seems to be a mixed message to the kids.......I want you to learn to keep the Moedim but, you are not allowed to go. Not a bit of judgment intended just concerned about the message delivered and received. I also recently had the opportunity to speak with someone that left Judaism centered around Yeshua and went to Judaism with a denial that Yeshua is the Messiah. One of his main points of contention was that "I have never really seen so many drunks that claim to know  ." Obvious that there were other issues with them but, this one issue is a point to be concerned about in our "movement."
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Post by alon on Feb 10, 2016 12:57:11 GMT -8
B"H ...I am just concerned that some may think that this type of behavour is acceptable and use it as an excuse to drink too much alcohol. Shalom b'Yeshua, R' Reuel
Amein. It seems this is becoming more and more of an issue in the "Messianic" movement. In fact, I have recently seen and heard of some groups having Purim parties and Sukkot (and in one case Pesach) with "No Children Allowed" due to the excess of alcohol. For me, this seems to be a mixed message to the kids.......I want you to learn to keep the Moedim but, you are not allowed to go. Not a bit of judgment intended just concerned about the message delivered and received. I also recently had the opportunity to speak with someone that left Judaism centered around Yeshua and went to Judaism with a denial that Yeshua is the Messiah. One of his main points of contention was that "I have never really seen so many drunks that claim to know ." Obvious that there were other issues with them but, this one issue is a point to be concerned about in our "movement."
I agree. However I want to point out that no true Messianics believe this way. In both the parent synagogue of this forum (Synagogue Chavurat HaMashiach in Spokane, WA) and the synagogue I attend (Synagogue Beit Aveinu in Wenatchee, WA), children are included in all things and there are no excesses. This is as far as I know the case in all synagogues in our umbrella organizations. It is unfortunate that so many glom onto the Messianic banner and use it to justify all manner of deviant behavior, from drunkenness to sexual deviancy. These are no more Messianic than those who deny the deity of Yeshua. I'd like to say they will be weeded out over time, but historically I don't see it. Christianity has had its problems with cults for 2000 yrs; and Judaism has had its problems for 3500 yrs. Hasatan was around from the first, seducing Chava then Adam to partake of the fruit. So we just put out our message and speak out against the excesses of others.
Dan C
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Post by rroath on Feb 10, 2016 13:08:32 GMT -8
Agreed and AMEN!!!
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." Obvious that there were other issues with them but, this one issue is a point to be concerned about in our "movement."
