Levetic 11

[shammuel]

Shalom! I would like to ask regarding Levetic 11:19. If goose is coser and from with lineage of bird it is? If is from stork it is coser?

Thanks!

[jimmie]

The unclean birds listed in Leviticus can loosely be grouped in the following groups:

CARRION EATERS: vulture, ossifrage, kite, gier eagle

BIRDS OF PREY: raven, eagle, owl, night hawk, hawk, little owl, great owl, osprey

BROOD PARASITISM : cuckoo

WATER FOWL:

' DIVING BIRDS: cormorant

' SWIMMING BIRDS: swan, pelican

' WADING BIRDS: stork, heron, lapwing

FLYING MAMMAL: bat

Since geese would fall into the same grouping as the swan, it appears to be unclean. In the modern grouping, the swan and goose belong to the same family (Anatidae) and sub-family (Anserinae). Thus hybridization between swans and geese may be achieved. The breast meat of goose and duck is bark as opposed to white as in the chicken and turkey. As far as I am concerned, that renders them useless for eating.

[tonga]

Goose is kosher. The lists forbidden birds, although Jews have a tradition of which other birds are kosher and which are not.

[jimmie]

Kind :4327. miyn, meen; from an unused root meaning to portion out; a sort:--kind.

Can “after his kind” broaden the meaning of a listed unclean bird? Wouldn’t a bald eagle be unclean because it is the same kind of bird as the listed eagle. If so then why is a goose clean when a swan is not? They are the same kind of bird. How does the Jewish Traditions teach us to determine if a newly discovered species is clean or not?