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Post by lawrenceofisrael on Oct 13, 2010 1:05:46 GMT -8
Fortuantely the Neuteri karta is a small group and not representative of Jews. As much as I disagree with them, I can understand their point of view. The State of Israel is secular, it is not  based, and from the NK understanding it is man made and not of G-d. i agree it is secular which will however change in the future :-) but look at the world. every single country is governed by man made law. |
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Post by tonga on Oct 13, 2010 18:48:51 GMT -8
Can't they understand this? Apparently not. I don't know that much about them, but I think they believe nothing is supposed to proceede until moshiach comes. I say this isn't the canoe joke, and we don't know how G-d works. They are a disgrace. |
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Post by zionlion on Oct 14, 2010 14:41:35 GMT -8
Canoe joke?  |
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Post by tonga on Oct 14, 2010 18:53:55 GMT -8
Canoe joke? I'm sure you've heard it before...but just in case not: A man in a canoe is heading towards a waterfall and if he goes over it he will surely die. Someone on the shore offers to throw him a rope, and he says "No! G-d will save me". A boat with a motor pulls up and offers to take the man aboard. "No! G-d will save me!" Finally a helicopter flies over head and throws down a ladder, which the man refuses. "No! G-d will save me!" The man goes over the waterfall and is killed. When he appears before G-d, he is angry. "I've been faithful to you all my life!! Why did you let me die?" To which G-d replies, I sent you a person on shore, I sent you another boat, I sent you a helicopter... We don't know how G-d works, and the NK is presuming they do. |
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Post by zionlion on Oct 14, 2010 20:27:15 GMT -8
Oh, OK, I remember the story. There's a lesson to be learned from the man. Always check your topographical map before you go canoeing. |
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Post by David Ben Yosef on Oct 16, 2010 0:15:38 GMT -8
You nazi hypocrite, you're so touchy when your delicate feelings are hurt, but you don't care when you falsely accuse an entire nation of genocide. They can ban me if they like, I wouldn't want to be in the same forum with you anyway. Vujo, I just had to edit the post where you used profanity. That is unacceptable behavior for this forum, and clearly a violation of the rules. You leave me no choice but to give you a verbal warning. Another infraction like that will indeed get you banned for a period of time, and perhaps permanently depending upon the nature of the infraction. Also, the above quote is unacceptable behavior as well. Please try to take a time-out or something before you post in anger, it helps sometimes. I can understand why you got upset, but that's no reason to respond the way you did on a forum that promotes a based lifestyle. Please understand that the warning you just received is not personal. I'm just doing my job. Please don't give me a reason to ban you, Bro. I would HATE to have to do that. All I ask is that you tone down the insults, and never use profanity in ANY circumstance. If you have a problem with another member, then bring it to the attention of the staff first. We may be able to work out a peacable resolution. Shabbat Shalom PS- The verbal warning will be lifted in 30 days. |
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Post by David Ben Yosef on Oct 16, 2010 0:37:55 GMT -8
the taliban used to be the heroes when fighting against the soviets, today they are being the bloodthirsty, wicked men of evil. What else would you call the men responsible for the twin tower attacks? I hope I'm misunderstanding you completely. Shabbat Shalom |
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Post by David Ben Yosef on Oct 16, 2010 0:53:14 GMT -8
i agree it is secular which will however change in the future :-) but look at the world. every single country is governed by man made law. Umm, I hate to be picky here, but HaShem commanded man to institute laws to govern society. It's part of the eternal covenant revealed to Noach.  Shabbat Shalom |
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Post by lawrenceofisrael on Oct 16, 2010 2:17:00 GMT -8
the taliban used to be the heroes when fighting against the soviets, today they are being the bloodthirsty, wicked men of evil. What else would you call the men responsible for the twin tower attacks? I hope I'm misunderstanding you completely. Shabbat Shalom well first of all you gotta make a distinction between al qaida and taliban. taliban is in fact a different organisation operating only in afghanistan while al qaida is working globally. the twin tower attack is surely a horrible thing but to be honest i cannot really say anything about it because all the information that i´ve been given comes from the media and i don´t trust the media at all. and i know that there are a lot of scientists who doubt wether bin laden and al qaida were involved at all and whether the guys who committed that act were some sort of splinter group. surely i cannot say this is true because i don´t know but im certainly not gonna judge on anybody whether al qaida or not until i´ve seen enough proof. on the other side im not going to jugde president bush because of the abominations that certain soldiers did in iraq because i could not prove that he knew about it and approved it. and that is all im saying and if we are talking about the war in afghanistan yes i am against it. It costs thousands of human beings there lifes and the more i try to get into the nature of several conflicts, whether we talk about afghanistan, chechnya, northern ireland or corsika, i slowly start to symphatize with the rebel groups, reason being that i cannot see why they should not fight and defend their countries and beliefs. im definitly not saying that i love to see soldiers being killed on both sides but i definitly believe that these wars are not that much about freedom and security as the media wants us to believe and as yeshua said these are probably the wars that come in the last days where everybody will hate each other for no apparent reason. all im trying to say by this post is that we should give each faction in a war the opportunity to clarify their views before judging any of them. and certainly not believe the media. as we know about the israeli conflict they talk nonsense all the time. |
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Post by lawrenceofisrael on Oct 16, 2010 2:18:50 GMT -8
i agree it is secular which will however change in the future :-) but look at the world. every single country is governed by man made law. Umm, I hate to be picky here, but HaShem commanded man to institute laws to govern society. It's part of the eternal covenant revealed to Noach. Shabbat Shalom where in the scripture does it say that? on the contrary he gave us laws in the which instruct us how to govern a society. the laws that king david and the judges and other righteous kings governed israel with were certainly not their own ideas and desires but what was written in the . |
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