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Post by 4Christ on Aug 15, 2007 17:28:50 GMT -8
Shalom,
In Malachi 2, God says through the prophet Malachi that He hates divorce. Yet G-d divorced Israel.
Mal 2:16 For the LORD, the God of Israel, saith that he hateth putting away: for one covereth violence with his garment, saith the LORD of hosts: therefore take heed to your spirit, that ye deal not treacherously.
Can someone help me understand why G-d would do what He says He hates?
Jer 3:8 And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.
Thanks for your responses.
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Post by Mark on Aug 16, 2007 3:29:44 GMT -8
If, in Jeremiah, Adonai had truly divorced Israel, he would have been breaking His own  to re-marry her (Deuteronomy 24:4). Another explanation is that He is speaking in the strongest of language to represent with intensity the nature of Israel's amd Judah's offense. Take a look at Deuteronomy 4:23-31. Does Adonai keep His promises? Often, the snapshot of a ny text of Scripture seems very troublesome; yet, when we study to see, there is an interpretation that yet fits within the confines of whole Scripture. |
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Post by Nachshon on Aug 16, 2007 4:27:20 GMT -8
Anyone who has been through a divorce hates it. He hates it because He has been through it and knows what a terrible thing it is. However, He is not violating the to remarry her. It is permisseable for Him to remarry her if He dies. But He's no good to her as a husband when He's died...unless He comes back to life. Shalom, Nachshon |
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Post by Mpossoff on Aug 16, 2007 11:58:37 GMT -8
Anyone who has been through a divorce hates it. He hates it because He has been through it and knows what a terrible thing it is. However, He is not violating the to remarry her. It is permisseable for Him to remarry her if He dies. But He's no good to her as a husband when He's died...unless He comes back to life. Shalom, Nachshon Wow Nachson! Never heard it like that before! Now that's deep. Marc |
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Post by Nachshon on Aug 16, 2007 14:08:28 GMT -8
Anyone who has been through a divorce hates it. He hates it because He has been through it and knows what a terrible thing it is. However, He is not violating the to remarry her. It is permisseable for Him to remarry her if He dies. But He's no good to her as a husband when He's died...unless He comes back to life. Shalom, Nachshon Wow Nachson! Never heard it like that before! Now that's deep. Marc I just wish I had come up with it. I heard it from...I can't think of the guy's name now. lol. |
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Post by Mpossoff on Aug 16, 2007 14:38:38 GMT -8
Boy I always tried to answer the question when asked.
But He did divorce Israel.
The answer you posted is the best answer I ever heard and it's so true.
Thanks!
Marc
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Post by Mark on Aug 18, 2007 5:52:20 GMT -8
While Nachson’s statement is a beautiful reality in some respect. It is an irresponsible application toward this text. While Messiah is slain from the foundation of the world and the redemptive act occurred around 33 AD. It did not happen between Jeremiah chapter 3 and Jeremiah 31. If Israel had been divorced by Adonai, then he would not be able to redeem her, at least not until after his physical death on the cross (if you feel justified in that application). Yet, both Jewish and Christian theologians agree that the statement in Jeremiah 3:8 is allegorical; mostly because of what we read in Isaiah 50:1. The implication is that though Adonai had sent her away (or begun the process), he did not follow through and complete the divorce proceedings. Compare these ideas to the book of Hosea and you will find this line of thinking to be consistent. In Hosea 2:2, he declares that Israel is not his wife; yet He plays out the role of the jealous husband on her behalf and finally draws her to Himself as a husband to His wife.
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Post by Nachshon on Aug 18, 2007 20:56:58 GMT -8
I'm curious to find out what I am when the jury finally comes in. I seem to be a mature young man and wiser than my years one moment, and irresponsible the next.
Not between chapter 3 and 31 of Yirmeyahu chronologically, but He arguably died in there eschatologically. Remember that Yirmeyahu is speaking prophetically of things in the spiritual realm and things that are to come.
Elohim is not a man that he should lie, nor a son of man that he should repent. When he has said, will he not do it? Or when he has spoken will he not make it good?
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to re-marry her (Deuteronomy 24:4). Another explanation is that He is speaking in the strongest of language to represent with intensity the nature of Israel's amd Judah's offense.
