Shavout / Pentecost

[Mercedes]

Shalom,

My local congregation is gathering on the 19 for Pentecost. I am counting the Omer from the day after the Passover Sabbath and will be keeping Pentecost on the evening of June 12, Is anyone locally here in the Spokane Washington area keeping Shavout on the 12?
My home is open if others are also looking. Email me.

I tell my son's that Yeshua fulfilled the waving of the Omer by being raised on the third day on the offering of firsfruits.
1 Cor15:23 "Christ the firstfruits and next at his coming those who belong to him"
Blessings in Yeshua,
Mercedes

[R' Y'hoshua Moshe]

Shalom Mercedes,

We count the omer from the morrow after the weekly Shabbat occuring during Pesach/Chag HaMotzi. So, we will be celebrating Shavuot from the evening of June 11th and thus on the 12th of June. We will be having a holy convocation on the South Hill of Spokane, Wa if you and yours are interested. The name of our home fellowship is Chavar HaMashiach (Fellowship Of The Messiah). In addition to Shavuot, we meet every erev Shabbat for food, fellowship, worship, and reading/discussion of the weekly Torah parashah. If you would like to join us, please send me an e-mail at:
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Berachot b'Yeshua,

Reuel

[Mercedes]

Shalom Reuel,

We count the omer from the morrow after the weekly Shabbat

This reckoning of counting is recognized as the Sadducee method as opposed to the Pharisee counting from the Passover feast on the 16 of Nisan.
are you familiar with the debate?
The Karaites are the modern day Sadducee believers.
Shaul would have kept the Pharisee teaching.



Printed from Jewishecyclopedia.com:
). According to the Rabbis, the wave-offering was brought on the 16th of Nisan, that is, on the morrow after the Passover Feast, the main point of difference between the Rabbis and the Boethusians and modern Karaites being that the latter explained literally the words "morrow after the Sabbath" (Lev. xxiii. 15) as the day following the first Sabbath after the Passover Feast (Men. 65b; Meg.Ta'an. i.).
Shalom,
Mercedes

[R' Y'hoshua Moshe]

Shalom Mercedes,

are you familiar with the debate?

Yes.

I know that it was the stance of the Tz'dukim (Sadducees) and that it is how Kariate Judaism interprets the counting of the omer. But, I have decided to interpret it this way because I believe it to be the more literal interpretation of the text. Furthermore, we know that Messiah is described as the firstfruits from the dead (1Cr. 15:20,23) and rose at the very end of Shabbat dawning towards the first day of the week which falls in line with the true interpretation of the First Fruits offering.

Many Hebrew scholars believe the weekly sabbath is the more literal interpretation of the phrase “morrow after the Sabbath” as did the Tz'dukim (Sadducees). Also, we see that gives the priesthood the authority to interpret in these matters and the Tz'dukim (Sadducees) where the L'vi'im (Levitical priesthood). Rabbinic Judaism interprets it to be the morrow after the High Sabbath. With this interpretation how are you to have seven "complete sabbaths" resulting with 49 days with the fiftieth being Shavuot (Pentecost) as the text commands?…

“You shall count from the next day after the Shabbat, from the day that you brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven Shabbatot shall be completed:
even to the next day after the seventh Shabbat you shall number fifty days; and you shall offer a new meal offering to YHVH.”
- Vayikra (Lev.) 23:15-16

Notice how it does not say, “You shall count from the next day after the first day of Unleavened Bread”. If you start your counting the morrow after the High Sabbath (1st day of Unleavened Bread), you would not have seven complete weekly Sabbaths.

Shaul would have kept the Pharisee teaching.

Not necessarily. Sha'ul would probably do what the scripture commands and most likely would have taken the warning of Yeshua seriously when it comes to some of the teachings of the P'rushim (Pharisees)...

“Then Yeshua said unto them, Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.....
Then understood they how that he bade them not beware of the leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.”
- Mat. 16:6,12

At any rate, this is how we currently interpret the observing of Shavuot. If we followed the teaching of Rabbinic Judaism (which is the continuation of Pharasaic Judaism) perfectly we would also be observing Pesach on the 15th of Nisan contrary to what Scripture commands and we would also reject Yeshua as Messiah. But of course, we can't do everything in accordance with Rabbinic Judaism...even Rabbinic Judaism disagrees with Rabbinic Judaism.

Shalom sister,

Reuel