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Post by Tzav_laTzav on Feb 5, 2007 0:49:50 GMT -8
I have recently been really drawn toward the daily prayers. I am trying to learn about them, trying to learn their language, their straight-forward simple translations, and their deeper meanings. Because I am a beginner in using these as daily prayer, I struggle with some issues.
I have two siddurs, so that is not a problem. I understand that the Scriptures do not tell us how long to pray and what to pray at what time through the day, so these may be possibly considered suggested prayers. However, I see so much value in them, and I learn so much from praying them.
One question is that I work, and reality is that I do not have time to pray all the prayers recommended for particular times. Would you truncate these prayers? If so, how do we truncate these prayers -- at which point?
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Post by Nachshon on Feb 5, 2007 10:43:34 GMT -8
Interesting thought: I have started using the Psalms as a prayer book. (a very Karaitic way of thinking) but it's interesting, I've been compliling a liturgy, finding prayers for morning and evening, for Sabbath, etc.
Shalom,
Nachshon
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Post by Yitzchak on Feb 5, 2007 22:20:48 GMT -8
Interesting thought: I have started using the Psalms as a prayer book. (a very Karaitic way of thinking) but it's interesting, I've been compliling a liturgy, finding prayers for morning and evening, for Sabbath, etc. Shalom, Nachshon I also use the Tehilim in my prayer time in the morning. Yitzchak |
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Post by Tzav_laTzav on Feb 6, 2007 15:08:02 GMT -8
Perhaps that would be better than chopping the prayers up. I'll think about that.
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Post by Tzav_laTzav on Feb 15, 2007 8:57:56 GMT -8
I do struggle with prayer. The main reason I wanted to start using the Prayers was to get myself on some kind of a schedule, as laid out in the Bible. I find that most of the time, I pray just because I pray -- almost everytime, it is spontaneous. I am not saying there is anything wrong with spontaneous prayer, because i don't think there is anything wrong with it; it is just that I think I am neglectful regarding my prayer life because I haven't set aside specific times for it.
Right now, I have set my cell phone to go off at particular times, to remind me to pray at that moment.
I often think of the words, "May our prayers to You be at an acceptable time."
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Post by Nachshon on Feb 15, 2007 9:05:59 GMT -8
As you sit in your house and as you walk in the way, and as you are lying down, and as you are rising up.--Deuteronomy 6:7.
I think what this is communicating is the same thing that Sha'ul communicated: Pray without ceasing. Are there certain times that should be laid aside as special times of prayer? Yes. But we should be praying continually. Our lives should be prayers. At present, I'm just getting in the habit of daily prayers, so my times fluctuate. Eventually, I would like to do them at more fixed times, but I don't think that precisely fixed times are necesary. Generally, I recite Psalm 5 when I get up, and Psalm 141 when I go to bed, along with the Sh'ma both times.
Shalom,
David
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Post by Tzav_laTzav on Feb 15, 2007 9:12:08 GMT -8
Thank you, Nachshon. I appreciate all the advice.
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Post by R' Y'hoshua Moshe on Feb 23, 2007 13:56:24 GMT -8
Well said!
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