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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2014 3:01:41 GMT -8
Yet, I am reminded of David who had called himself a worm.
"But I am a worm, and no man; A reproach of men, and despised by the people." Psalm 22:6
I'm sure this is probably how he felt among his own people.
Even Yeshua would call the Pharisees, snakes and vipers and referred them to white washed walls. I was told that to refer to someone as a snake or viper was an insult to the people in those days.
And I am sure that the prophets of God had many names for God's chosen people or those who were not being obedient to Him.
In my thinking many of these name callings was called for because of what the people were doing and thinking. So there would be a difference if one would really be an idiot or foolish is because they have sinned or they are being rebellious toward a Holy God, compared to sitting before a Holy God and putting oneself down or calling them names which would be uncalled for. I hope that made sense.
Moriah Ruth
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2014 3:46:38 GMT -8
Ok, I must admit that there is one verse that has me baffled. As I was doing the dishes a few moments ago this verse came to mind.
"But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, 'Raca!' shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, 'You fool!' shall be in danger of hell fire." Matthew 5:22
Does this mean that we are not to call anyone a fool, even if they are being one? Did not Yeshua call the Pharisees fools?
And does this mean that if anyone, rather they be believers in Christ or not, and they call others fools that they will go to hell and that there is no salvation or forgiveness for them?
What does Raca mean?
And what does, "shall be in danger of the council" mean?
Can someone please enlighten me on this? It would be greatly appreciated.
Moriah Ruth
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Post by jimmie on Apr 11, 2014 4:58:09 GMT -8
Raca - empty - utter vilification, worthless, vain
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Post by alon on Apr 11, 2014 10:12:42 GMT -8
Yet, I am reminded of David who had called himself a worm. "But I am a worm, and no man; A reproach of men, and despised by the people." Psalm 22:6 I'm sure this is probably how he felt among his own people. The same word that meant worm could also mean red. David may have been saying he had blood on him, red as blood. |
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Post by alon on Apr 11, 2014 10:23:04 GMT -8
"But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, 'Raca!' shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, 'You fool!' shall be in danger of hell fire." Matthew 5:22 Does this mean that we are not to call anyone a fool, even if they are being one? Did not Yeshua call the Pharisees fools? And does this mean that if anyone, rather they be believers in Christ or not, and they call others fools that they will go to hell and that there is no salvation or forgiveness for them? What does Raca mean? And what does, "shall be in danger of the council" mean? One meaning of this is that as you progress from anger to presumptuous dismissal (raca) to outright contempt (you fool) you are placing yourself in danger of having to answer to increasingly more powerful authority. The further your attitude goes to the negative with this person, the harder it is to deal with him in the way God wants you to. Thee is always redemption if you repent. But even that is difficult when you know you've wronged the person. Dan C |
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Post by jimmie on Apr 11, 2014 12:31:14 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2014 14:43:46 GMT -8
Thank you Jimmie for the info and the link.
Also Alon, thank you for your input.
Moriah Ruth
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Post by Questor on Apr 13, 2014 16:59:44 GMT -8
Ok, I must admit that there is one verse that has me baffled. As I was doing the dishes a few moments ago this verse came to mind. "But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, 'Raca!' shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, 'You fool!' shall be in danger of hell fire." Matthew 5:22 Does this mean that we are not to call anyone a fool, even if they are being one? Did not Yeshua call the Pharisees fools? And does this mean that if anyone, rather they be believers in Christ or not, and they call others fools that they will go to hell and that there is no salvation or forgiveness for them? What does Raca mean? And what does, "shall be in danger of the council" mean? Can someone please enlighten me on this? It would be greatly appreciated. Moriah Ruth
Raca definition
vain, empty, worthless, only found in Matt. 5:22. The Jews used it as a word of contempt. It is derived from a root meaning "to spit."
Easton's 1897 Bible Dictionary
Calling someone this is a major putdown...and in its way a curse to label someone as being worthless, vain and empty. I heard in a sermon once, "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words can kill me."
If you tell anyone that they are bad or worthless, you are putting into their mind that they are what you call them. Say it enough times, particularly if they are children or young people, they will begin to believe it, and act upon it. Even if the person is vain, empty, and worthless, it does no good to hammer the point down, and is generally only used to relieve the speakers irritation, frustration and contempt. Someone who actually is vain, empty, and worthless should be pitied, and treated kindly, even if you are a bit wary of their general foolishness.
When Yehoshua spoke to the Pharisee's, and called them names, it happened to be the truth, and He was speaking to the Pharisees directly, not about them to others. He observed what they did, and told them what He saw.
If you tell a bully that he is a bully, it is both correct, and truthful, and if done kindly enough, can even get them to overcome their fault. But saying as a man passes you to another person that he is a bully because you have been told of it, it is then lashon hara, even if it is true.
However, if you were to say to your friend about a known bully that is passing, without referencing his bullying ways, "I am afraid of that man," you are merely expressing your feelings.
The next question would be, after telling your friend that you are afraid of a known bully, do you tell them why if they ask you why you are afraid? You can state the truth, that the man has bullied and intimidated you, for that is what you experienced. Telling a truth that you have experienced directly is not lashon hara.
However, in a Beit Din, your testimony would be worthless as evidence of unlawful behavior unless other people were giving testimony in a similar manner of the same man.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2014 4:49:50 GMT -8
Thank you Questor for you thoughts. Blessings to you.
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