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Post by Blake on Mar 2, 2006 10:12:25 GMT -8
As most of you know the New Testament wasn't canonized until half a millenium after the death of Rebi Yehoshua HaMoschiach when the Church had already ethnically cleansed their faith and adopted many of the abominations of local heathen cults.
This makes one wonder, is it really scripture at all?
The Moschiach never commanded additions to the scriptures or quotes anything other than the 24 books of the Tanakh.
Much of the New Testament was written as letters to different places, no text of Old Testament is like that.
I starting to lead that they are not profitable for reproof in their entirety, and some not even being Divinely inspired and almost all of it with many late additions and deletions.
I think it all must be looked at like the Talmud. It shapes many of our beliefs, but is not a new revelation. It is just a expounds on the ideas already expressed so they can better understood.
Does any one see the new testament in this way?
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Post by Chizuk Emunah on Mar 2, 2006 16:51:06 GMT -8
This I most definitely agree with. You have to keep in mind that even in the TaNaK the Neviim and the Ketuvim all build on the the  . Therefore everything flows from . In the same way, so too do the B'sorah Tovot, Ma'aseh Shliachim, the Apocalypse of Yochanan, and all the Letters of the Shliachim build on and provide commentary to the TaNaK. There is definitely nothing new to be found in the Ketuvim Shliachim, aside from the revealing of the Moshiach. |
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Post by Blake on Mar 2, 2006 18:50:58 GMT -8
"This I most definitely agree with. You have to keep in mind that even in the TaNaK the Neviim and the Ketuvim all build on the the . Therefore everything flows from ." Ah, good point! Thanks for sharing I didn't take this into account, but it strengthens by belief not that I see it. |
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Post by R' Y'hoshua Moshe on Mar 4, 2006 1:02:56 GMT -8
And, like the Nevi'im (Prophets) and K'tuvim (writings) they are inspired writings of G-d's direct will for His people. The writings of the Brit Chadashah (New Covenant) are consistent with and indeed magnify it when read with pro- mindset just like all of the other prophets and writings were meant to be read... I believe that just as the Jewish people were repeatedly threatened by extermination time after time by their enemies and yes by the Catholic church...yet, their enemies could not destroy them...so too did the Apostolic Scriptures escape destruction and were preserved even though they passed through the hands of these people. We also have to consider that the Catholic church did not have the only copy of these scriptures as we see that the Aramaic Peshitta escaped their tampering. Yet, we have it today and it agrees with most of our Greek texts. Our G'd is more powerful than most give Him credit.  We can have confidence in the writings of the Brit Chadashah...And, G'd will use any tool that suits His fancy to do His will. I would also caution that this thread is dangerously close to violating the forum rules as it's goal seems to be the discrediting of the New Covenant writings. Proceed carefully... Shalom chaverim, Reuel |
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Post by azgdt5120 on Dec 6, 2009 12:07:38 GMT -8
IMO if you invalidate the testimonies ( given by jewish) you invalidate Yeshua, therefore you invalidate the . I do agree that the translations has a gentil mindset that completely distort the real meaning of the transmition of the message, but that's a different story. All of us by Adonai's grace can peacefully discuss in this forum as a consequence of what the first jewish brothers sufered for their commitment to the instructions given by the Master. |
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