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Post by Blake on Mar 20, 2006 10:12:05 GMT -8
I was wondering what the members of the forum thought about the issue of the date of the crucifixion.
Was it Wedenesday, Thurday, or Friday>?
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Post by Rick on Mar 20, 2006 19:08:44 GMT -8
You might find this interesting;
Two Romanian astronomers claim to have pinpointed the exact date and time of the Crucifixion.
According to Liviu Mircea and Tiberiu Oproiu of the Astronomic Observer Institute in Cluji, Romania, Jesus died at 3 p.m. on Friday, April 3, 33 A.D.
According to their reading of the New Testament data, Jesus was crucified on the day after the first full moon after the vernal equinox. If the crucifixion took place between the years 26 and 35, this could mean either Friday, April 7, 30, or Friday, April 3, 33. But it was only the latter year that records show a solar eclipse as having occured in Jerusalem ("And when the sixth hour had come, there was darkness over the whole land until the ninth hour," Mark 15:33).
The two astronomers have also timed the resurrection precisely as having occured at 4 a.m. the following Sunday, April 5.
I found this in "Word&Way", May 22, 2003, p.12
Berachot b'Yeshua
Rick
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Post by Blake on Mar 21, 2006 3:21:49 GMT -8
Yes, I certainly see the symbolism of a Friday Crucufixion, resting in the grave on the Sabbath, and returning to his labours on the first day.
However, didn't the Messiah specify exactly three days AND nights in the heart of the earth?
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Post by Pioneer on Mar 21, 2006 7:17:32 GMT -8
You might find this interesting; Two Romanian astronomers claim to have pinpointed the exact date and time of the Crucifixion. According to Liviu Mircea and Tiberiu Oproiu of the Astronomic Observer Institute in Cluji, Romania, Jesus died at 3 p.m. on Friday, April 3, 33 A.D. According to their reading of the New Testament data, Jesus was crucified on the day after the first full moon after the vernal equinox. If the crucifixion took place between the years 26 and 35, this could mean either Friday, April 7, 30, or Friday, April 3, 33. But it was only the latter year that records show a solar eclipse as having occured in Jerusalem ("And when the sixth hour had come, there was darkness over the whole land until the ninth hour," Mark 15:33). The two astronomers have also timed the resurrection precisely as having occured at 4 a.m. the following Sunday, April 5. I found this in "Word&Way", May 22, 2003, p.12 Berachot b'Yeshua Rick WOW! 38 hrs. in the heart of the earth = three days and three nights. Go figure? |
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Post by Blake on Mar 21, 2006 10:01:31 GMT -8
Three days and three nights would be 72 hours, not 38. We're still missing a night with the Friday crucifixion scenario.
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Post by Blake on Mar 21, 2006 12:31:38 GMT -8
Therefore the Jews, because it was the Preparation Day, so that the bodies wouldn't remain on the cross on the Sabbath ( for that Sabbath was a special one), asked of Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away. (WEB) John 19:31 The sabbath referred to here is not neccesarily the weekly sabbath, but the first day of feast of unleavened bread on which the  forbids work. It could not have been Monday, because the women came to his tomb on the first day of the week when it was still dark, pointing a Sabbath ressurection. More information can be found here: ad2004.com/prophecytruths/Articles/Prophecy/3days3nights.html |
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Post by lawrenceofisrael on Jun 29, 2009 2:12:07 GMT -8
That myth that Yeshua rose on sunday was invented by the church to justify that they keep the Sunday. I heard a sermon of a local pastor who said: " Why do we not keep the Sabbath anymore but the Sunday?? Because he rose on Sunday". as if that´d had anything to do with the observance of the shabbat.
I think for us the more important message is that he rose and that death could not defeat him and this is our hope.
Peace and blessings be upon you.
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Post by ken on Jun 29, 2009 4:26:57 GMT -8
That myth that Yeshua rose on sunday was invented by the church to justify that they keep the Sunday. I heard a sermon of a local pastor who said: " Why do we not keep the Sabbath anymore but the Sunday?? Because he rose on Sunday". as if that´d had anything to do with the observance of the shabbat. I think for us the more important message is that he rose and that death could not defeat him and this is our hope. Peace and blessings be upon you. The fact that Yeshua rose on Sunday, the first day of the week, comes from HaShem's word, as it is written. You are correct that the professional Church, started by Constantine, decided to celebrate resurrection Sunday, in place of the traditional weekly Sabbat, the decision was made in order to consolidate weekly days off between the "Sun" worshippers and the "Son" worshippers   Grace and Peace be with you, Ken |
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Post by azgdt5120 on Nov 5, 2009 12:01:33 GMT -8
thank you very much Ken for your valuable contributions.
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Post by jimmie on Apr 15, 2010 14:40:38 GMT -8
ken,
The problem that I have with this time line is day number 6. Why didn’t the women come to anoint the body on the day six? Way pass it up and wait until the 1st to do so. Here is an alternate. My basic assumption is that Jesus’ time in the “heart of the earth” begins with the kiss of betrayal. He spends that night (1) in trial, the day (1) in trial and being placed on the cross. There is darkness from the 6th to 9th hour. That’s night (2). There is day light from the 9th to the 12th hour. That’s day (2). He spends Sabbath night (3) and day (3) in the grave. That’s thee days and nights in the heart of the earth in 24 hours.
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Post by R' Y'hoshua Moshe on Apr 18, 2010 17:14:02 GMT -8
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Post by jimmie on Apr 19, 2010 14:11:57 GMT -8
I need to make a correction to my last post. 24 hours should have been 48 hours. If you mean that Yeshua rose at the end of Shabbat towards the dawning of the first day around the time of havdalah, than I would agree with you. That is what I meant. I also like the table. There is one detail misssing on Nisan 10th. that is when the passover lamb was to be selected. Matt 26:3 Then assembled together the chief priests, and the scribes, and the elders of the people, unto the palace of the high priest, who was called Caiaphas, 4 And consulted that they might take Jesus by subtlety, and kill him. |
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