Seeker2
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"I will seek Your face in righousness;I shall be satisfied when I awake in Your likeness."
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Post by Seeker2 on Dec 19, 2006 13:44:18 GMT -8
Me too!!  |
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Post by Dogface Of Judah on Dec 19, 2006 14:15:44 GMT -8
Ok friends,
Just a teaser for now. Here's why i think there are two different Babylon's, one in Rev 17 and one in Rev 18.
First- `And after these things...' (18:1). The events described here will not take place until after the events of Chapter 17 have been fulfilled.
Second- Names in the two chapters are different. The `Babylon' in Chapter 17:5, is named `Mystery, Babylon the Great, the Mother of Harlots.' We know this Babylon is religious by the words `Mystery' and `Mother of Harlots'. But, the term in Chapter 18:2 is merely `Babylon the Great'. The Babylon in Chapter 18 is a commercial Babylon.
Third- Babylon, the harlot of Chapter 17, will be destroyed by the kings (rulers) of the earth. The Babylon of Chapter 18 will be destroyed by God's cataclysmic judgments
Forth- The Babylon of Chapter 17 will be destroyed by the kings of the earth, who rejoice in her destruction. But, in Chapter 18, the kings and the merchants of the earth lament and weep for the destroyed Babylon.
And finally, common sense tells us that, once something is destroyed, it is gone. For the Babylons of Chapter 17 and 18 to be the same, the system would have to be destroyed twice. This makes no sense whatever.
I'll deal with Rev 18 later i.e United States.
upupandawayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.
Ed
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Seeker2
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"I will seek Your face in righousness;I shall be satisfied when I awake in Your likeness."
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Post by Seeker2 on Dec 21, 2006 18:38:26 GMT -8
Bravo so far....havent thought of these differences that you have pointed out. Now they seem obvious! Please continue when you can! b |
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Post by R' Y'hoshua Moshe on Jan 2, 2007 19:42:29 GMT -8
Shalom chaverim,
I believe that Babylon certainly has it's ring leaders, but I also believe that it is in -every- sect of churchianity and -every- sect of Synagogism... It is the system, organization, or individual that promotes Torahlessness and paganism within the lives of others, within their country, and within the world. We should not get too comfortable wherever we are. We must each individually come out of Babylon. It makes no difference if we exit an organization that could be considered a spiritual Babylon if we simply bring Babylon with us when we leave.
May Adonai lead us all in His truth,
Reuel
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