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Post by Mpossoff on Jan 22, 2007 4:18:55 GMT -8
Hi all, Just printed out the study on Hebrews from www.bereansonline.org/I was hoping if possible that there may be some help when I need it concerning this study or if we can do this together. It looks like it's pretty intense. Marc |
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Post by Chizuk Emunah on Jan 22, 2007 6:03:07 GMT -8
Marc, If you install iTunes { iTunes}, you can download and listen to the podcasts. There's about 19 of them if I remember correctly. Very good teaching. If you have any questions along the way, feel free to drop me a line. |
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Post by Mpossoff on Jan 22, 2007 6:09:55 GMT -8
Natanel the audio lessons are the same as the pdf? I printed the pdf out this morning and it's about 185 pages! I would prefer to be able to listen to the lessons and can do so while at work. Marc Marc, If you install iTunes { iTunes}, you can download and listen to the podcasts. There's about 19 of them if I remember correctly. Very good teaching. If you have any questions along the way, feel free to drop me a line. |
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Post by Chizuk Emunah on Jan 22, 2007 7:21:29 GMT -8
The pdf accompanies the audio lessons and although helpful, it's not necessary. I actually listened to most of the audio lessons while working at one of my previous jobs.
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Post by Mpossoff on Jan 22, 2007 11:25:10 GMT -8
Hi all,
Is it me or does or did anyone else have difficulty understanding Hebrews?
Marc
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Post by Mpossoff on Jan 23, 2007 4:23:28 GMT -8
WOW!
Just getting through the Introduction and Lesson One of the Hebrews study!
I BELIEVE!!!!
I have to say that this study is becoming a "revelation" for me!
What's being revealed to me so far is that nowhere in scripture does it say that the "Judaic" ways are gone and that there are "new" ways.
That the theology and doctrine that I've been taught and believed to be honest is false.
What's apparent is that God doesn't change never has changed. The doctrine that I've been accustomed to has taught me otherwise. That there was the ways and God of the Old Testament and before the cross verus the God of the NT, a new way.
Still in the very beginning of this study and revelation and just wanted to let others know where I'm coming from so far.
Marc
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Post by Chizuk Emunah on Jan 23, 2007 4:28:19 GMT -8
Baruch HaShem for the revelation Marc! May HaShem continue to open your eyes as you learn and grow.
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Post by Mpossoff on Jan 23, 2007 14:54:55 GMT -8
Interesting in Hebrews there is nowhere in the scripture that says for the audience to stop what they are doing, the temple system.
It appears that the writer is actually encouraging the audience to press on.
Wow what an eye opener.
Marc
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Post by Mpossoff on Jan 25, 2007 15:13:12 GMT -8
Getting ALOT of understanding from this study of Hebrews.
I have to admitt the doctrine that I've been taught is false doctrine.
Not to say that it was taught to me maliciously.
First important thing I've learned so far is that nowhere in Hebrews does the writer tell the audience to stop their "Temple'ism"/Judaism in fact the writer encourages them. The Epistle is a letter of exhortation.
The Study takes us in Acts. In Acts there is alot of "Judaism" and Hebraic content. Nowhere is Acts is Judaism discouraged.
Repentance= remember the Law of Moses. "Return" to the Law of Moses. "Repent for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand". Same message in the OT and the NT. I was taught another view of repentance.
Alot of good study. I'm a Jew and although wasn't raised as a Jew I I'm still a Jew. Just a bad Jew. I sinned against what G-d has given my people to obey.
Will keep you posted on other truths.
Marc
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Post by Chizuk Emunah on Jan 25, 2007 16:14:25 GMT -8
Shalom Marc,
Glad to hear that you are progressing so well! May HaShem continue to bless you as you seek him.
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Post by Mpossoff on Jan 29, 2007 3:55:42 GMT -8
Hi all as I said before this intensive Hebrews study is taking me into Acts, looking for historical contexts and Hebraism's. Right now I'm in Acts 10:9-16. I'm getting it but not really getting it. 9 The next day, as they went on their journey and drew near the city, Peter went up on the housetop to pray, about the sixth hour. 10 Then he became very hungry and wanted to eat; but while they made ready, he fell into a trance 11 and saw heaven opened and an object like a great sheet bound at the four corners, descending to him and let down to the earth. 12 In it were all kinds of four-footed animals of the earth, wild beasts, creeping things, and birds of the air. 13 And a voice came to him, “Rise, Peter; kill and eat.”
14 But Peter said, “Not so, Lord! For I have never eaten anything common or unclean.”
15 And a voice spoke to him again the second time, “What God has cleansed you must not call common.” 16 This was done three times. And the object was taken up into heaven again.In the study the Rabbi says that this vision isn't about food, it's about the Gentiles inclusion. That culturally by MAN it was "unlawfull" to mix with Gentiles which is a man made law. In the  from what I learned G-d said to "embrace" sojourners(Gentiles). So this "business" in Acts is a man made law that is against . Another important thing that I learned about Peter's vision is "Who is the voice?" Hmmm, then I said to myself didn't G-d always say who He was? The study took us to Deuteronomy 13 you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams, for the LORD your God is testing you to know whether you love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul. Hmmm, not all voices from Heaven are Truth. WOW!!!! The Truth is wonderful!!!! Now the study is taken me to Ezekial 4 as a "cross referance" if you will to Peters vision. Peter in Acts 11 explains what the vision meant. The truth of all the above is ‘What God has cleansed you must not call common.’So what I know about all the above is that Peters vision, Ezekial has to do with including the Gentiles. And the says so to. Can someone elaborate a bit about this. What I'm not understanding is it looks like both the scriptures are referring to food, in my heart I know they are not. What I'm looking for is a better understanding of this. Marc |
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Post by Chizuk Emunah on Jan 29, 2007 6:02:32 GMT -8
Shalom Marc, We have a thread dedicated to the discussion about Acts 10. You can find it here: Acts 10 Controversy. As you will see, it has absolutely nothing to do with food. For how can HaShem, the Creator of the Universe, violate his own Word? Interesting that you bring this up right now. I am doing an in-depth study of Rabbi Y'hoshua and his halacha. What we see here, is that Shimon Kefa was following the halacha of Beit Shammai. Shammai advocated not interacting with Goyim at all, even if they were gerim (which is the case in Acts, because we see that Cornelius is called a G-d Fearer). |
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Post by R' Y'hoshua Moshe on Jan 29, 2007 11:48:04 GMT -8
Shalom Mpossoff, I am excited to see you that Adonai is peeling away the years of false teaching and are discovering the truth. Just remember as you are learning more about our Heavenly Father's to be gentle and patient with those whom are still deceived in believing has been done away. I agree with your sentiments regarding and the book of Hebrews. I haven’t got a chance to review the resource you are studying through, but it sounds like it is teaching many of the things that we have also discovered through our independent studies. It sounds like a good resource. In regards to the book of Yechezkel (Ezek.) The Temple, the sacrificial system, ect we do have a separate thread dedicated to this subject: The Temple And The PriesthoodKeep on studying. Also, be careful as there are alot of groups out there that teach some false doctrine such as "Two House" "Ephraimite", "Sacred Name", and several other groups. Test everything with the word. If you see anything that seems off or fantastic, feel free to bring it the table here at the forum to discuss and we can test the scriptures together. Organizations like First Fruits Of Zion ( wwwffoz.org ) have alot of great resources and teaching that will keep you founded. Shalom, Reuel |
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Post by Mpossoff on Jan 30, 2007 13:52:59 GMT -8
Hitting some "complicated" study now. We're now actually in Hebrews after spending alot of time in Acts to prove Hebraisms. Wow! Hebrews what the Rabbi says uses a "Hebraic" method of consciousness. I'm in Chapters one and two and what is suprisingly relevant is that the scripture referances are NOT the point as I was taught previously. The writer uses rimez if I spelled that correctly for scripture referances. In other words go back in the and look up the passage to see what it says. ALOT of cross referancing to the to see what a specific text in Hebrews means. Very complicated. As the Rabbi said Hebrews is very "refined" and technical. Marc |
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Post by Mpossoff on Feb 1, 2007 5:16:45 GMT -8
Hi all I'm at a difficult point in the Hebrews study. There is another study, Redemption in TaNaKh also available at bereansonline.org/I'm contemplating doing this study then going back to the Hebrews study. For one what's difficult is although I'm a Jew I'm not versed in the which Hebrews is mostly about. The Redemption in TaNaKh looks like it will give me a foundation to move onto New Testament scripture. Any comments? Marc |
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from what I learned G-d said to "embrace" sojourners(Gentiles). So this "business" in Acts is a man made law that is against 
