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Post by scrappyusn on Apr 10, 2009 16:49:04 GMT -8
I come from a Christian background and have come to the conclusion that the church of today is not what Yeshua would want. The church has a special place in my heart, because I was raised in the church and found God and values in it.
I am well versed in common theology of the church, due to the fact that my father is an ordainded minister. He has been both a pastor and a missionary, with a strong love for God. , I want to know if I have understand correctly that decision made by the Apostles, in Acts, was that while gentiles did not have to follow the Jewish kosher laws to be in fellowship. If I am thinking correctly than I have some comments to make. I know that the Jewish people are special in God's eye and that He is unchanging
Thank you for your response to a baby in the messianic movement. I have much to learn.
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Post by Mark on Apr 11, 2009 5:32:10 GMT -8
Hi Scrappy, and welcome to the forums, You are probably refering to Acts 15 at the Jerusalem Council where it was decided, "But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood." (Acts 15:20 KJV). In many Christian teachings, this is a declaration that all other commandments in should not be considered binding or pertinent to the Gentile, unfortunately, not reading the very next verse: For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day. (Acts 15:21 KJV) Since there were no Christian churches at this time, and no New Testament, the only place gentiles would be able to learn about the Jewish Messiah was at the Synagogue. Conveniently, manny also re-define the question that was being addressed in Acts 15. The question was not what was the definition of how one must live in obedience to God as a believer. It was a question of who can be accepted into the congregation as a member of the body of Christ: And certain men which came down from Judea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved. (Acts 15:1 KJV) You might look at the specific thread on Acts 15 here: theloveofgod.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=letters&action=display&thread=152&page=1But the short answer is that God defines sin and righteousness according to the same standard for both Jew and gentile. What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin... (Romans 3:9 KJV)
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