dave
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Post by dave on Dec 20, 2008 14:24:58 GMT -8
I realize that non-messianic Jews don't accept Yeshua as the Messiah, but why don't they just leave it at that? Why is there so much hatred? In the "spirit of the season" I decided to do a little research into the pagan origins of Christmas, just so I had a little clarification for myself. I stumbled upon a website that seemed fairly descriptive and even had some audio. So I listened to the audio and it was very clearly a Jewish speaker. He had some hateful things to say about Yeshua, and I guess the thing that bothered me the most is that they were totally untrue. Everyone has a right to believe in what they want to believe in, it's free will. But what I don't understand is hatred founded in lies. I know that there were people throughout history that have done unmentionable things to the Jewish people, however if it was in the name of Yeshua, it was misguided. Yeshua never commanded people to those unmentionable things to anyone, and He definitely never intended to abolish His own people. So where does the hatred come from? Why can't they simply not believe in Him. Maybe it's just me, but I tend to take it personally when people slander my Messiah like that. Here's the link if anyone is interested: www.simpletoremember.com/vitals/Christmas_TheRealStory.htmDave
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Post by dodi on Dec 21, 2008 14:47:46 GMT -8
I agree with you. I think one of the main reasons why there is so much hatred towards Yeshua is because to humans the truth hurts and they become defensive. Just like Yeshua said, we will be hated for his namesake.
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Post by lawrenceofisrael on Dec 31, 2008 1:33:00 GMT -8
I think one crucial point is that they believe that messiah is a hypocrite. We don´t accept Mormons either do we because they believe in something like a special prophet after the Yochanan who´s given us the revealation (may the Lord remember him)
Also they believe we are equal to christians and christianity particularly in europe, violently persecuted jews, non-catholics, alleged witches and in the holy land muslims.
They often think that Yeshua taught us to kill jews and muslims etc.
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dave
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Post by dave on Jan 2, 2009 10:54:28 GMT -8
There is a difference between acceptance and hatred. I am currently serving in Iraq with the U.S. Army. I am surrounded by Muslims. A group of people that would kill me with great pleasure if they ever caught me, seeing as I am both Jewish and American. I still don't hate them. I pray for them. There just seems to be a lot of hatred from Jews who aren't in Yeshua to those that are and to Christians.
Dave
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Post by lawrenceofisrael on Jan 3, 2009 16:43:47 GMT -8
Yeh i know. Again i´ve talked to a lot of traditional jews and they are kind of taught or told completely wrong stuff about us messianic believers. Im not trying to defend the hatred for it is surely wrong im just trying to understand them.
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veggirl
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Post by veggirl on Mar 31, 2009 18:01:08 GMT -8
I don't believe that Muslims are all that bad, from what I have been hearing is that Muslims didn't have anything to do with 9/11 and the war is a lie. There are over 10,000 AWOL in the USA today. People love to hate each other, I have found most people hating each other are christians or just believer's.. Its made me somewhat and lonely at times. Before I came to the lord I had a group of wonderful friends most in college all were vegans , most didn't believe in a God, but never ever talked down to anyone and some were just not sure. They had a special kind of love I have never seen before., We all went our own way after a while, I was looking for something new, then I became a mormon, little did I know they didn't teach the living God of Israel, so I was looking in other places.. I went to many churches learned a great deal about people and God. This is what I learned, people are human and not prefect if we were we would not need Jesus,. God showed us grace , he gave his son for us so we may live, Yeshua washed the feet of his Disciples that is love, We are to love each other like God loves us! If not then the love of God is not in us. There is a lot of hatred : *( Its very , we can pray for each other... God can change a heart.. With love Bri'gette...
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veggirl
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Post by veggirl on Mar 31, 2009 18:07:05 GMT -8
One more thing Muslims believe in Jesus, not like a christian does, but they do believe he was a good person. Jewish people really don't I have not seen Jesus in the yet.
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