What Happens To The Ones Who Don't Know?

[Bat Yosef]

I agree with the scriptures that men must accept Yeshua, but I also know there are extinuating circumstances. Babies and people who are severely mentally challenged cannot make a right decision about Yeshua but His blood covers them in their infirmaty; also there are people who are brainwashed into believing a false religion at a young age. What about the Jew who has faithfully observed all his life but was never given the facts to rightfully choose for himself to believe or not to believe Yeshua is MaShiach? What happens to people who have really not been given the correct information to discern whether or not to accept Yeshua as MaShiach?

Yeshua said:
John 12:47&48 - 47 If anyone hears what I am saying and does not observe it, I don't judge him; for I did not come to judge the world, but to save the world. 48 Those who reject me and don't accept what I say have a judge -- the word which I have spoken will judge them on the Last Day.

King Shlomo said:
Ecclesiastes 12:7 - the dust returns to earth, as it was, and the spirit returns to God, who gave it!


So if the spirit returns to G-d, a spirit that has not been given the information to rightfully accept or reject Yeshua, then what happens to them? G-d says He will judge them on the Last Day but where are they until that time?

;D

[Blake]

batyosef said:

I agree with the scriptures that men must accept Yeshua, but I also know there are extinuating circumstances. Babies and people who are severely mentally challenged cannot make a right decision about Yeshua but His blood covers them in their infirmaty; also there are people who are brainwashed into believing a false religion at a young age. What about the Jew who has faithfully observed all his life but was never given the facts to rightfully choose for himself to believe or not to believe Yeshua is MaShiach? What happens to people who have really not been given the correct information to discern whether or not to accept Yeshua as MaShiach?

Yeshua said:
John 12:47&48 - 47 If anyone hears what I am saying and does not observe it, I don't judge him; for I did not come to judge the world, but to save the world. 48 Those who reject me and don't accept what I say have a judge -- the word which I have spoken will judge them on the Last Day.

King Shlomo said:
Ecclesiastes 12:7 - the dust returns to earth, as it was, and the spirit returns to God, who gave it!


So if the spirit returns to G-d, a spirit that has not been given the information to rightfully accept or reject Yeshua, then what happens to them? G-d says He will judge them on the Last Day but where are they until that time?

;D

Ecc. 9:5
For the living know that they will die, but the dead don't know anything, neither do they have any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. (WEB)

Here we are told the dead know nothing. They do not watch us from a could in heaven while playing a harp.

I Tim. 6:15-16, "which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of Kings, and Lord of Lords; who ONLY hath immortality

Humans are not inherently immortal. You do not have immortal soul that floats off into the Elysian Fields when you die. When you die, you die. You cease to exist.

"His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish." (Ps. 115:17; 146:4).

The breath of life or "spirit" the force that animates you goes back to God who made it. It doesn't contain your personality or memories, its just the essense of life itself.
The lie of inherent immortality is a lie passed down from pagan religions for thousands of years, in fact it is the first lie ever told.

Gen. 3:4 The serpent said to the woman, "You won't surely die, (WEB)

In Genesis 2:7, the Bible says: "And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." The Hebrew word for "soul" used in this text is nephesh. Besides being translated 428 times as "soul" in the Old Testament, nephesh is also translated as the following: life -- 119 times; person -- 29 times; and creature -- 19 times. "There is nothing in the words translated 'soul' or in their usage in the Bible that even remotely implies a conscious entity that survives the body after death, or that attributes immortality to it. Nephesh is not part of the person; it is the person!" (Bible Dictionary by Siegfried H. Horn, Ph.D., p. 1061).
Ah, but fret not for there is hope for the righteous dead.

Rev. 22:12"Behold, I come quickly. My reward is with me, to repay to each man according to his work. (WEB)

Dan. 12:2 Many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to and everlasting contempt. (WEB)

When the Messiah returns the dead shall rise from their graves to recieve their reward.
Eternal destruction or eternal life depending on how they are judged. We are to judge no one, for Almighty God does not tolerate those who think to sit in his seat. It is for Him to decide, not us.
When Yehoshua reigns as King of Yisra'el for 1,000 years those who died without hearing the truth will have a chance to hear it and accept it.

[R' Y'hoshua Moshe]

Shalom Blake,

The breath of life or "spirit" the force that animates you goes back to God who made it. It doesn't contain your personality or memories, its just the essense of life itself.
The lie of inherent immortality is a lie passed down from pagan religions for thousands of years, in fact it is the first lie ever told.

Of course we have already discussed the above statement (and pretty much the whole post) on other threads and have found that it is indeed a debatable subject. I would respectively disagree. If we want to discuss the subject further we can continue on it’s respective thread. But, as to the subject at hand…

The scriptures say that if we search for G’d with all our heart, mind and soul…we will find Him. No one has an excuse. I believe that each person is held accountable according to the G’d given capacity in which each is able to comprehend His Truth…For the majority of us whom have a normal mental capacity, we have no excuse. Everyone has a responsibility to know his/her Creator, and again, anyone whom truly seeks Him out in any culture, or nook and cranny on the face of this Earth –will- find Him and know Him….and, His and His son will not be hidden from such a one. Remember, what the scriptures say, the road to life in narrow and few whom find it, but the road to destruction is wide and many go in by it. So, much for the saying, “all religions lead to the same place”.

Shalom chaverim,

Reuel