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Post by Questor on Feb 25, 2017 13:37:53 GMT -8
This is a difficult question to be answering, as in the About page of a Blog, one is trying to give new readers, at least in explaining what you write about, and what you think about things. So, I need informed criticism of how I say things about what I am speaking about. Please don't hesitate to tear the lines apart and tell me to say something differently!
First portion of About Page:
I am Questor. I ask questions and I answer them.
I approach my trust in YHVH through Yeshua haMashiach.
I learn about G-d, about Yeshua, about right conduct in the pages of the Scriptures, and the Apostolic Writings.
I learn about what man thinks of G-d, Yeshua, and about right conduct in the writings of men, but I take what man says about these things less seriously, seeking always to inform my mind in order to make my own decisions about YHVH, Yeshua, and right conduct, since it is I who will answer for my choices and their consequences.
I have a lot in common with many Believers in YHVH, even though we may not come from the same original viewpoint. I know that G-d created all things that we experience, and that G-d inspired all that is taught in the Scriptures and Apostolic Writings in the original language documents they were written in. Much of what has been written about YHVH and his interaction with humankind outside of the Scriptures and Apostolic Writings is sometimes badly translated; misinterpreted; or laced with man's notions of what is right and proper. This makes the myriad pages of the Christian Patristic Writings and Jewish Talmud secondary and subject to the Scriptures and Apostolic Writings.
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Post by Questor on Feb 25, 2017 13:42:04 GMT -8
Consequently I primarily use the closest renderings of the original documents of the Scriptures and Apostolic writings in their original language, and consider those things written about the G-d and man to be less important. I am not a scholar, however, and must make use of all the language helps, and all the teachings of those wiser than I that are available to me, and I carefully view what is written, and attempt to understand it. My writing flows from what I understand...and hopefully, my writing about YHVH, and his purposes in creating mankind will grow as I grow, and be more understanding as I become more understanding of Adonai Elohim and man.
Yeshua is the Son of G-d in my view; however, I do not know how to explain it in terms that everyone will accept. I tend to see Yeshua ben Elohim as the spiritual and physical expression of YHVH within our reality, even as is stated in the scriptures...actually part of the Creator before anything was made, pre-existent to our reality, and described in many ways…as G-d’s Arm, his Right Hand, his Voice, the personification of the Word, even the Angel of the Presence, and Mashiach...with a specific and appointed purpose in our reality past, present and future. He is separate from Abba to my understanding, but also always with him...a paradox of existence.
To me Yeshua is not all of Creator, but the new Adam...the anointed King over our universe, sharing the same soul as HaShem, being of the same essence, and placed into a human body specially made for the purpose that Yeshua carried out as our redeemer. Yeshua holds all the Creator’s power and has authority to act on his behalf, fulfilling G-d’s desires but within the confines of Yeshua's human experience. This is not because Adonai does not know or understand humanity, or is not able to experience all that each man and woman experiences as they experience it, but because of the need for a redeemer holding the characteristics of both G-d and man. Thus Abba has delegated the matter to Yeshua, who is wholly divine and wholly human…spiritually G-d and physically Man...a unique blend of G-d and man.
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Post by Questor on Feb 25, 2017 13:44:22 GMT -8
The Ruach haKodesh is G-d's breath, always emanating from him, and a part of him, and transferring life and power into our very beings if we allow. In the Ruach haKodesh is also the view of the Sacred Feminine, and of 'Lady' Wisdom, a somewhat interesting perspective, but noted in many of the Scriptures, however obliquely.
G-d himself is outside of our universe, and not entirely describable, so I don't try very much, except to answer honest questions about my communication with him. Like most Believers, I am guided by the hints and gentle leadings of the Ruach haKodesh, but have received more direct communication from G-d on a few occasions, mostly for my personal guidance. I speak about them freely enough, but only when describing other things...the content is mostly not for other people, except that I have the knowledge and experience of 3D waking visions and dreams, and the odd full color visual impression impressed into my mind to explain something to me in detail. These matters are very prevalent at this time, as the fulfillment of Joel's prophecy is in full swing. I do not consider myself prophetic, and sincerely hope Abba does not use me so.
YHVH as Creator, Messiah and Holy Spirit are the three known expressions of G-d in the Scriptures and Apostolic Writings, but when they are called a Trinity, I see the hatred of Judaism, a lack of knowledge of G-d's essential Unity, and the political ploy of Constantine the Great in requiring unity of thought about G-d.
Constantine forced a statement about the Creator, the Messiah, and the Holy Spirit as a 'trinity' of three co-equal persons of the godhead as a highly creative solution to the vexed question of who YHVH was, who Yeshua was in relation to YHVH, and adding in the idea of the 'Holy Ghost' as a full tertiary member of the godhead when no one was yet worried about that matter. Thus this 'trinity of gods' was handed to the Bishops of a group of Greco-Romanized churches at the Council of Nicaea that had long left the real Yeshua behind. There they attempted to explain G-d in all his permutations in man's terms, and for Constantine's use, while avoiding any hint of the original Judaism of the Nazarene movement, a mistake that Believers of all backgrounds are finally coming to admit to.
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Post by alon on Feb 25, 2017 17:37:23 GMT -8
Reply to 2nd post:I've posted this before, but it bears repeating; especially as you asked: RESPONSE TO JOE SHULAM ON THE DEITY OF THE MESSIAH AND RABBINIC TRADITION
by MICHAEL L. BROWN (from Chosen People Ministries website)
As I stated in my 2008 Oxford debate on the incarnation with Rabbi Shmuley Boteach, “Can Jews believe Jesus is God?" . . . if by the question you mean could God, who is complex in His unity, sit enthroned in heaven, filling the universe with His presence, infinite and uncontainable in His majesty, and yet at and one and same time manifest His glory among us in the tent of a human body for thirty-three years, then the answer is categorically yes, and there is nothing idolatrous about this belief at all. In fact, it is harmony with the Hebrew Scriptures, even explaining some of the mysteries of our own Bible, and on some level it has parallels with rabbinic concepts. In fact, in the midrash to Psalm 91 it is written, “At [the moment that Moses finished building the Tabernacle], a great question arose: How could a Tabernacle with walls and curtains contain the Presence of the Almighty? The Master of the Universe Himself explained, ‘The entire world cannot contain My glory, yet when I wish, I can concentrate My entire essence into one small spot. Indeed, I am Most High, yet I sit in a [limited, constricted] refuge – in the shadow of the Tabernacle.’"
“And so, rather than being some crass religious notion that is hardly worthy of the Jewish people this is an extraordinarily rich and deep spiritual concept, explaining how the uncontainable God – the En Sof, the One without beginning or end – could walk among us in intimate fellowship, being transcendent and immanent at one and the same time, untouchable and touchable, invisible and yet, in a sense, visible.”And from a teaching by Dr. Chester of  Light Ministries:
We are made in the image of Hashem- body, soul and spirit. So does God have three parts:
Will- the Father; every decision starts with the Father who wills it.
1Pe 3:17 (KJV) For it is better, if it is the will of God, to suffer for doing good than for doing evil.
Way- the Ruach, who does the work.
Romans 8:26a (ESV) Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness.
Word- Yeshua is called the Word, and every time someone heard God or heard from God, it was the Word, Yeshua who spoke.
Revelation 19:11-13 (ESV) Then I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse! The one sitting on it is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he judges and makes war. His eyes are like a flame of fire, and on his head are many diadems, and he has a name written that no one knows but himself. He is clothed in a robe dipped in blood, and the name by which he is called is The Word of God.
Every decision starts with the Father, the Word is spoken by the Son, and the Ruach HaChodesh performs it.
Exodus 33:11a (ESV) Thus the Lord used to speak to Moses face to face, as a man speaks to his friend.
How then could Hashem tell Moshe later that to see His face was to die?
Exodus 33:20 (ESV) But,” he said, “you cannot see my face, for man shall not see me and live.”
I have heard many explanations for this from Christian pastors, but none rang true. The only answer can be that Moshe spoke with the Word, Yeshua. In what form we are not told. But if it was face to face as it says, then it was not the full glory of Elohim he saw, then or even as Hashem caused His glory to pass before Moshe. And it was not that attenuated glory either, for after he saw that Moshe's face glowed!
Exodus 33:21-23 (ESV) And the Lord said, “Behold, there is a place by me where you shall stand on the rock, and while my glory passes by I will put you in a cleft of the rock, and I will cover you with my hand until I have passed by. Then I will take away my hand, and you shall see my back, but my face shall not be seen.”
Exodus 34:29 (ESV) When Moses came down from Mount Sinai, with the two tablets of the testimony in his hand as he came down from the mountain, Moses did not know that the skin of his face shone because he had been talking with God.
Moshe saw the Glory of Hashem on the mountain, and there he was given , and his face glowed. But not before in the several times when he had talked to God. The Father willed it and Yeshua Spoke it, and it was all done through the power and work of the Ruach. Not three persons, but three aspects of One Being- Ehiyeh sh'Ehiyeh, "I Am That I Am" or "I Will Be That I Will Be." Not the Trinity that man has made Him, but One God:Devarim 6:4 (OJB) Shema Yisroel Adonoi Eloheinu Adonoi Echad.
Deuteronomy 6:4 (CJB) “Sh’ma, Yisra’el! Adonai Eloheinu, Adonai echad [Hear, Isra’el! Adonai our God, Adonai is one];
For many years I was confused by my Trinitarian upbringing. How could God be Three Persons? Why the need for more than one person of a Godhead to stand around agreeing with each other? Seriously, my view of "Three Gods" was three tall, skinny men with long grey beards and those ridiculous paper crowns spray painted gold like we used to make in Sunday School! And they just stood in a beam of light, agreeing with each other. You may laugh, but how did you see God? Were you ever confused? These d'rashot by two knowlegable men explain God better to me than all my years of Trinitarian training. You do well to acknowlege the eternal deity of Yeshua. However you do (in my opinion) need to clarify who He is and what is His role. He IS God! Not part of a Godhead, but a manifestation of the One true God. This same God has manifest Himself in many ways- a burning bush, a voice, a pillar of fire and smoke to name a few familiar ones. And as Yeshua, Imanuel- God with us. As to the many ways He is referred to, God often speaks of Himself allegoricaly so that we may better understand Him. He sits on a throne, though He is spirit and so needs no seat of any kind. Yeshua sits at His right hand, which in most people is the hand of action, our primary appendage for getting things done. Take some time to search the archives here; I seem to recall that jimmie had some good scriptural insights to this in a couple of places ... I just don't emember where. But the main thing is I'd urge you to take God at His word: Deuteronomy 6:4 (ESV) “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.Dan C
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Post by alon on Feb 25, 2017 18:03:54 GMT -8
The Ruach haKodesh is G-d's breath, always emanating from him, and a part of him, and transferring life and power into our very beings if we allow. In the Ruach haKodesh is also the view of the Sacred Feminine, and of 'Lady' Wisdom, a somewhat interesting perspective, but noted in many of the Scriptures, however obliquely.
Yes, there is a feminine side to God. "Mankind," not just "man" was made in His image. And the Ruach is our comforter, just as our mothers were.
G-d himself is outside of our universe, and not entirely describable, so I don't try very much, except to answer honest questions about my communication with him. Like most Believers, I am guided by the hints and gentle leadings of the Ruach haKodesh, but have received more direct communication from G-d on a few occasions, mostly for my personal guidance. I speak about them freely enough, but only when describing other things...the content is mostly not for other people, except that I have the knowledge and experience of 3D waking visions and dreams, and the odd full color visual impression impressed into my mind to explain something to me in detail. These matters are very prevalent at this time, as the fulfillment of Joel's prophecy is in full swing. I do not consider myself prophetic, and sincerely hope Abba does not use me so.
You might want to rethink this, as you are setting yourself up, intentionally or not, as a prophet. We all have vivid dreams and at times are inspired in ways that can only be attributed to God. But don't make too much of them (don't deny them either), as they are never meant to lift us up, but to edify us.
YHVH as Creator, Messiah and Holy Spirit are the three known expressions of G-d in the Scriptures and Apostolic Writings, but when they are called a Trinity, I see the hatred of Judaism, a lack of knowledge of G-d's essential Unity, and the political ploy of Constantine the Great in requiring unity of thought about G-d.
There were many expressions, or manifestations of God in the TNK. Those are just the three primary manifestations given in the B'rit Chadashah- the Kethuvai Shaliachim, or Apostolic Writings. You are correct about the rest though.
Constantine forced a statement about the Creator, the Messiah, and the Holy Spirit as a 'trinity' of three co-equal persons of the godhead as a highly creative solution to the vexed question of who YHVH was, who Yeshua was in relation to YHVH, and adding in the idea of the 'Holy Ghost' as a full tertiary member of the godhead when no one was yet worried about that matter. Thus this 'trinity of gods' was handed to the Bishops of a group of Greco-Romanized churches at the Council of Nicaea that had long left the real Yeshua behind. There they attempted to explain G-d in all his permutations in man's terms, and for Constantine's use, while avoiding any hint of the original Judaism of the Nazarene movement, a mistake that Believers of all backgrounds are finally coming to admit to.
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Post by Questor on Feb 25, 2017 21:12:38 GMT -8
Like most Believers, I am guided by the hints and gentle leadings of the Ruach haKodesh, but have received more direct communication from G-d on a few occasions, mostly for my personal guidance. I speak about them freely enough, but only when describing other things...the content is mostly not for other people, except that I have the knowledge and experience of 3D waking visions and dreams, and the odd full color visual impression impressed into my mind to explain something to me in detail. These matters are very prevalent at this time, as the fulfillment of Joel's prophecy is in full swing. I do not consider myself prophetic, and sincerely hope Abba does not use me so.
You might want to rethink this, as you are setting yourself up, intentionally or not, as a prophet. We all have vivid dreams and at times are inspired in ways that can only be attributed to God. But don't make too much of them (don't deny them either), as they are never meant to lift us up, but to edify us.
Oh, I'm not talking dreams alone...I am talking long, detailed waking visions, but I don't want to be a prophet. I have seen Yeshua twice...once from a long distance in the burning bronze description as John describes, and I can be much more detailed if I need to be about how the visual is achieved... and once wrapped up in standard robes only 4 feet away and carrying a shepherds staff, which he used to lift me off my bed, and set me on my feet after ramming it into my diaphram...an interesting way to wake up at 3:00am! And I did not see his face...it was dark under the tallit...in fact, it was dark in the room for all that I could see so much. And then he 'SPOKE',and although short and to the point, was quite enlivening. I could not disobey. I wasn't scared, just overwhelmedly okay with what I was told!
Other, different kinds are when I am fully awake, a few Bat Kol's, one long video type vision for over twenty hours during the Arab Spring, and then the odd dream in which he shows me something, and then lets me wake and still talk to him about it, and finish our discussion...and all fascinating, but not prophetic so far as I could see. Just instructions and explanations of stuff, some things I ask about, and somethings I am not aware I need to know, but later I find are handy.
The Adversary's imitations in dreams are interesting, but not anywhere so technically perfect, nor pressed into my memory, and I am aware when seeing them that they are wrong in some way.
Why would you think I am setting myself up to be a prophet? I have asked Abba not to use me that way if it is possible, and I see no reason for me to be so used...I know no one, and am pretty isolated except by internet, which was purposeful in how my life was altered to get me this way and which helps me avoid the topic except to explain how it works. And seriously, I think that is what the stuff is for in my case...just another thing to be able to explain what I am trying to say, or to give me explanations of things I need to know about in general, not specifically. If this is somehow going to get me prophetically involved, how do I avoid it? I can't not talk about it because if it fits with what I am trying to say, it just rolls off my fingertips. I can censor it, but why?
I am amazed at how many people I meet that have this stuff happening. I pretty much see it as interesting info that might be useful in describing visions in a Messianically based SciFi book...which I would rather write, but am not being allowed to just yet, until I do the blog. And I didn't know I was going to do that until about two weeks ago! I just knew I was being held back from writing fiction. |
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Post by alon on Feb 25, 2017 21:32:44 GMT -8
Because of your description of seeing visions. This is one way Elohim communicated with His prophets. In saying you have had these visions you are placing yourself, whether or not you wish it, in the role of a seer- a prophet. Furthermore, your saying you don't wish it and that you are not qualified is exactly what most, if not all prophets said to their El.
That puts me in an awkward position, as before I let stand any vision, dream or theophany I (and indeed everyone here) would have to "test the spirits." You'd be on the hot-seat, so none of us come out of this unscathed. And quite frankly, none of us are really qualified for the roles you'd be forcing on us except you- and that ONLY if you are in fact a prophet! Is this the case?
Well, let's examine what we do know. The one true mark of a prophet of God is that he is, when speaking spiritually, infallible. You are not yet even settled on who and what God is. Is He One, two, or a Trinity? In that vein, I am closer to a prophet than you--- and TRUST me on this: I FAIL OFTEN, AND TOO OFTEN I DO SO SPECTACULARLY! And while I know you do not claim to be a prophet, you cannot describe yourself as one and get by with a disclaimer.
You asked for honest input, and this is mine. You'll lose good people if you do this on your blog. You will attract some though; but they will not be good. My advice, don't put that up.
Dan C
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Post by Questor on Feb 25, 2017 23:10:10 GMT -8
Because of your description of seeing visions. This is one way Elohim communicated with His prophets. In saying you have had these visions you are placing yourself, whether or not you wish it, in the role of a seer- a prophet. Furthermore, your saying you don't wish it and that you are not qualified is exactly what most, if not all prophets said to their El. That puts me in an awkward position, as before I let stand any vision, dream or theophany I (and indeed everyone here) would have to "test the spirits." You'd be on the hot-seat, so none of us come out of this unscathed. And quite frankly, none of us are really qualified for the roles you'd be forcing on us except you- and that ONLY if you are in fact a prophet! Is this the case? Well, let's examine what we do know. The one true mark of a prophet of God is that he is, when speaking spiritually, infallible. You are not yet even settled on who and what God is. Is He One, two, or a Trinity? In that vein, I am closer to a prophet than you--- and TRUST me on this: I FAIL OFTEN, AND TOO OFTEN I DO SO SPECTACULARLY! And while I know you do not claim to be a prophet, you cannot describe yourself as one and get by with a disclaimer. You asked for honest input, and this is mine. You'll lose good people if you do this on your blog. You will attract some though; but they will not be good. My advice, don't put that up. Dan C
I don't mind the confusion I am in describing G-d because I have to go through it in order to be able to explain it, but as to the Visions, you would be surprised that they are able to be differentiated. I only spoke about this in the About portion of the blog because I am bound to let it slip something that I need to describe to explain something else I am describing...why I know what I know, but I don't see that as seer ability or quality...just handy info...insight, not a 'WORD'.
I wouldn't be writing at all...G-dstuff I mean, if it were not for the initial vision that I got woken up with in 2006. That night before dawn, I had set up my first blog...thoroughly Christian, and Evangelistic, then spent years while studying arguing doctrine with people at Sermonindex.org. All of my stuff is still on Google search, which is nice, since there is a lot of great argumentation there if I need it, just like I have two years of articles on my old blog. But the vision started it all...and an order from G-d started it all, so what do I do?
The Ruach haKodesh hinders my ability to write of my own will and strength as I did before the accident...back to having my fingertips tied up in tape, and emotionally it is like trying to roll a boulder uphill...so I need the Ruach to help me write. It doesn't hurt me then.
Once, and only once have I said anything after I got out of the occult that just fell out of my mouth (Last year), and told someone something crucial that I was not told of at the time, that they felt was important. I did not feel it was anything except some accidental rudeness. I do not know how to view it now. I have no need to be used of G-d except by writing. Of all the gifts Abba gave me originally, and he gifted me plentifully, my ability to write is the one thing I walked away with intact from the accident. I have not been able to practice and work on it as I would have liked because of the physical limitations I have also had placed on me.
But Dan, I was able to receive knowledge from demons while I was in the occult 46 years ago, and I know what that is like...it's very different. It's all tied up with anger and pride and arrogance fueling it, and though I still have plenty of that, it's not mixed up in what G-d gives me...which is not often.
Abba doesn't talk directly often from what other people tell me...the Ruach haKodesh is there for regular things. The other waking visions, the discussions in dreams and out with Abba...that all seems ordinary to me...marvelous yes, like meeting your lover secretly, and having some special time together but not in the least strange or awesome.
I am unable to hide it unless I just quit writing. The part of me that was able to be secretive, discreet and diplomatic died in the car accident. Only because I work by a keyboard am I able to make sense with my thoughts...verbally I am quite a mess...scatterbrained, skipping from thought to thought. Speaking to one person is possible...two people are a trial, and three blend together to me in a blended babble of information.
Most of the time the Ruach leads me from place to place, and just shows me enough to go on with, like anyone...but you seem to be saying that this is not like what happens to others. I know someone who sees demons, and angels and spirits, and is a prophet, or so she says, and I can't tell or not. She's just as unphazed by the experience as I am. I know a three generation family that see only dark stuff, and lots of it, and they do not know why, but they hate it. I know another person that has had vivid, prophetic dreams about other places and people she does not know, and now avoids them...mine are not like that...they are just information. If they are my mind simply dreaming, or the Adversary planting things they are chaotic, and even cartoonish compared to what Abba can do.
People who describe their visions from my experience mostly are describing dreams they have had...and not even waking dreams...just dreams, or nightmares, and darned silly they sound too. I speak openly here as I do everywhere, but I am not foolish enough to actually tell anyone what I think G-d has told me, except as if told indirectly through the leading of the Ruach haKodesh, which everyone understands. But I also know that G-d has not given me special knowledge that is to be used in any way except explanation. And if he does, I probably won't write about it at all, or talk about it...and I hope it doesn't happen, because I don't want to deal with attempting to get someone special information. No one wants it, and when you give it to someone without knowing you have done so, you only find out because they are scared by what you have said.
I do know when I am to do something that G-d wants me to do...there is a dreadful awefulness about it, even a certainty...a horrible realization that I just stepped in over my head again that refuses to leave for hours, and sometimes days, and what I will find later on is mostly that it is going to be just exhausting, and perhaps uncomfortable, but not frightening, or even important in any way that I know of.
But the sheer joy that occurs when the Ruach is using my fingertips to explain something, even if it is foolishness to most people, I know I am being used to say something to someone...even if I am doing it in a rush, and need to work on it, save it, check it, like I am learning to do now...it is worth the rest of whatever happens. So I will try not to speak much of what G-d shows me directly unless it has to be used so, but otherwise I will try to avoid it. I am not interested in being another Jeremiah. I would not refuse it if G-d gave it to me to do, but G-d would have to do quite a lot of enabling to make me useful in that way, so I do not see it happening, and I am glad of that.
And don't hesitate to tell me the exact truth...it is why I come here.
Q
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Post by alon on Feb 25, 2017 23:53:46 GMT -8
proph·e·cy (prŏf′ĭ-sē)
n. pl. proph·e·cies (-sēz)
1.a. An inspired utterance of a prophet, viewed as a revelation of divine will. b. A prediction of the future, made under divine inspiration.
c. Such an inspired message or prediction transmitted orally or in writing.
2. The vocation or condition of a prophet.
Call it what you will, what you describe is in every way the things of the office of a prophet. The first thing you need to do is to test the spirits yourself. Be brutally honest, taking into account what you hear here insted of what you desire. And here we have a problem. Those influences do not go away all at once. It may take a lifetime to overcome them. So if you were into the occult, whatever visions or dreams or inspiration you might have is already clouded; suspect. I know you say later you've dealt with that issue; but you may only think you have. Demonic influences can be very subtle as well. If the anger no longer works, they may try more benign methods to bend you to their will. And they can be very seductive: I can relate. I used to be able to out-argue anyone. I could pull things from memory, parse out what they were saying and destroy their arguments on the spot. It was a gift, and one which I abused. Now, after falling ill I can barely keep up with them. So I work best from a keyboard as well (ironic, since I have NO computer skills). But at times even the simplest posts can take hours, even days. And I always have to edit, rewrite and try to make them more concise. Doesn't always work, but I think I do manage to get the point across.  Yeah, that is exactly what I am saying. And I must question the source of that information. I also wonder why you are still drawn to these kinds of people if, as you say, you have left the occult? There is no such thing as "sort of pagan." You is, or you isn't. Look, you claim to be writing by direct revelation and the influence of the Ruach. That makes what you are saying "prophetic" if it is true. So we must ask by what spirit are you writing? And frankly, your answers here are cause for concern. Concern for you, as well as for others you might influence here. Dan C
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Post by Questor on Feb 26, 2017 2:46:19 GMT -8
proph·e·cy (prŏf′ĭ-sē)
n. pl. proph·e·cies (-sēz)
1.a. An inspired utterance of a prophet, viewed as a revelation of divine will. b. A prediction of the future, made under divine inspiration.
c. Such an inspired message or prediction transmitted orally or in writing.
2. The vocation or condition of a prophet.
Call it what you will, what you describe is in every way the things of the office of a prophet. Dreams and visions that tell a person what to do are not uncommon. Bat kol's are not unheard of, because G-d does speak to people.
I have never had a revelation from G-d that I am aware of, as the information given me was instructive for myself alone, not an opening up of future events or private information except as regards myself, and that's normal, at least to me. G-d does that a lot, but perhaps I am more willing to speak of my experience because i don't think it is weird.
I don't make predictions orally or in writing.
I don't feel particularly inspired by the Holy Spirit, but I am given insights, as are all of us. Maybe a I get a few more than other people...I can't tell, because no one talks about it.The first thing you need to do is to test the spirits yourself. Be brutally honest, taking into account what you hear here instead of what you desire. I do...it is why I am here.
I value what I hear from G-d, Yeshua, and the Ruach haKodesh, but it is different from my own inner voice, and whomever else I hear from, and I can tell which voice is which because every voice has it's reason for being. It sometimes takes a little time to figure out, so one learns not to jump at the first idea you have.
Abba is always orders, or straight info...so kind, and so illuminating, and yet so deadly and sharply brief. He never wastes words, or images, or color, and yet everything is just perfect and brilliant. He has a great sense of humor, and we laugh a lot. I do not know Yeshua's voice from Abba's, but I have heard Abba's voice from Yeshua, and Yeshua can be very stern and brief. The Ruach is all gentleness, so quiet, hardly able to be noticed, except you do hear, or you receive the enabling, and everything is just gliding, and there is no seeming suggestion, just ease. It's called grace.
My voice, and G-d's voices are not the same. I cannot always tell my voice from the Adversary, so I ignore my voice until I hear from Abba or the Ruach. My voice and the Adversary's voice always has human desire/tone/flavoring mixed up in it. In fact, the Adversary sounds like me a good deal of the time, so I don't agree with myself a lot.
Often, if I discuss an insight I receive with someone who is aware of my insights, it may be perceived as being colored or slanted in some way, and then I know it is my voice or the Adversary.
Information from G-d is not taken that way as it seems to be controlled by G-d, presumably because it is either accurate, or inoffensive. I know of no predictive insights that I have been given. To my knowledge, I don't receive anything but general insight about others from G-d, and I am learning not to mention even those insights. No one likes it.
In dreams or visions, when I examine them, I can see the differences in color, in shape, in cohesion, in storyline. The Adversary is not as capable or talented as Abba is, and he has trouble holding a moving 3D picture in my dreams at least, because I have seen better.
I have had only 3 visions - 2 with sound and one without sound, and 2 bat kols in 11 years, and they are not able to be forgotten. There are only a handful of dreams that I would claim as G-d or Yeshua and perhaps another dozen or so that are the Ruach. Dreams from G-d or Yeshua are crystal, but complete, even if difficult. Dreams from the Ruach are more pleasant, and playful. All are terrific to experience...the Adversary is interesting, but the dreams are not of much use to anyone, and have a tendency to fade quickly, and don't feel right, while my own mind in dreams is repetitive and always working out things...often surprising things, but just stuff.
The impression of information is given so briefly and so often that it is not anything but information, and thus suspect, although usually illuminating personally, but usually is within the context of a conversation with Abba, in direct reference to a question. Generally I can tell it is not me because I am not that smart. It could however be anyone. Since I don't ask 'what if' questions of G-d, I don't worry about the answers...I am just chatting, and he is chatting back.
I don't receive lottery numbers or juicy information though...just information that is without apparent use, except that I understand more than before because that I asked a question, and expected an answer. The conversation is usually not about matters temporal, but theoretical. G-d already know what is going on in my life, so I don't need to talk about it. We discuss science, sociology, creation, philosophy, and people present and past, literature, history, politics...anything I am reading or writing. I get a lot of information about these things, but they are not anything concrete, so I don't think they qualify as anything except having a really good imagination to someone skeptical...except I am not that imaginative in general.
Oddly, except that apparently other people you know do not experience these things, it seems perfectly normal. I have had 22 years of living alone...I have gotten used to being with G-d. He's a good companion, and a lot of fun.
And here we have a problem. Those influences do not go away all at once. It may take a lifetime to overcome them. So if you were into the occult, whatever visions or dreams or inspiration you might have is already clouded; suspect. I know you say later you've dealt with that issue; but you may only think you have. I don't assume that the occult ever goes away...the Adversary is there...always. It is more a matter of telling who is giving the information, and there are differences. Also, I was never deep into the occult from the Occult's point of view...I was but a mere dabbler. I presume that Abba allowed it for training purposes...because he uses everything.
I wasn't a particularly nice person, but I was not evil either, and I didn't ever want to hurt people. I presume it's why I got away more or less intact. I left the occult when I was twenty...it left me so far as I recall about 10 years later.
If you remember, I was baptized at 15...and was immediately shown everything I didn't need to know about the members of my church in a vision from the Adversary, or so I presume...but I never went back to find out.
I would hate to think I saw accurately as the Holy Spirit infilled me, and went into the occult out of fear of the reality I experienced...or disgust at the sense of evil I had in a church gathering. As if what I did didn't matter, and so why not explore?
Demonic influences can be very subtle as well. If the anger no longer works, they may try more benign methods to bend you to their will. And they can be very seductive: I can relate. I used to be able to out-argue anyone. I could pull things from memory, parse out what they were saying and destroy their arguments on the spot. It was a gift, and one which I abused. Now, after falling ill I can barely keep up with them. So I work best from a keyboard as well (ironic, since I have NO computer skills). But at times even the simplest posts can take hours, even days. And I always have to edit, rewrite and try to make them more concise. Doesn't always work, but I think I do manage to get the point across. Yeah, that is exactly what I am saying. Sorry...I don't like hearing that, because frankly it never seemed necessary to take it as more than a generalized talent that I have always had...like having a good voice, or the ability to paint...neither of which are among my talents. I have always had awareness that others may not have...or may have, and just don't mention.
All that I have ever received from Abba has been information...thoughts of an abstract nature, and flashed images, unless they were in dream or vision form, or a Bat Kol, and those were orders, short and to the point...a total of five words from two different audible moments. I am quite willing to tell you those...one was the first 3D vision of Yeshua in my bedroom, and I was told, "Write." The other was simply as I walked through the living room, and heard Abba say, "Become a good householder." I keep trying, but am unable as yet to comply.
I can describe the dreams and visions in great detail, but they would mean very little to anyone but me, except the experience of receiving them. They seem to have no direct purpose, and no usable information.
Mostly my communication with Abba is a conversation I am having, that is sweet and quiet, or sometimes rowdy and silly, but simply for fun, like running down a street together in a dream. They are not of any great importance, and probably more common than people are willing to admit.
And I must question the source of that information. I also wonder why you are still drawn to these kinds of people if, as you say, you have left the occult? There is no such thing as "sort of pagan." You is, or you isn't. I can't be drawn to them, as they are all very old acquaintances, and none of them of my seeking.
The cartoonish comment is in regard to the Adversary's relative skill with images in dreams as compared to Abba's...not at all comparable.
The Adversary shows up erratically, but is able to be noticed. I have been alert dreaming my entire life, and cannot NOT participate in my dreams. However, unless they are G-d dreams, they can be directed by me if unpleasant. Just like when awake, one can fight back. It is a matter of information learned from the occult from age 15 to 20, and has to do with symbolism. I'm not all that good at it, but I remember the basics.Look, you claim to be writing by direct revelation and the influence of the Ruach. That makes what you are saying "prophetic" if it is true. So we must ask by what spirit are you writing? And frankly, your answers here are cause for concern. Concern for you, as well as for others you might influence here. Dan C Actually, no. I don't write by revelation...only by gifting and enablement. I am controlled, not controlling. I don't receive a river of information or inspiration...I am given ability to describe easily what I know and don't know...it is an easing of the way, not a presentation of power.
At most I am given the ability to understand the information I already have, and to put pieces together to clarify something. And the influence of the Ruach haKodesh is not a gift of power. I would need a complete infilling for power...even Yeshua did. Prophecy to me is foretelling of events, not understanding or insight.
I have experienced only once an enabling of power, and it was the Adversary through anger when I was about 20, and it was a short period of knowing what I could not see. It scared the people I was with, because I was proving an ability of clairvoyance...of knowing what cards would come next in a deck.
I had been good at reading Tarot cards for people. I was accurate, and my fiance of the time knew that, and bragged about it. Some friends did not believe the report, so I had them get a deck of cards, and proved the matter to them, by feeling the color of the cards of the deck by pressing them against my thigh. The red one's burned. It was very unpleasant in my opinion.
I think that experience facilitated my exit from the darker areas of some parts of my life. I also got unengaged! But then, I don't do anger well...at least, I don't enjoy it, and I avoid it...probably because power and anger to me are intertwined.
I don't see me as a prophet...just someone having a prophecy happening to them, and accepting of that fact.
Joel 2:28-29 (CJB)
28 “After this, I will pour out my Spirit on all humanity. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your old men will dream dreams, your young men will see visions;
29 and also on male and female slaves in those days I will pour out my Spirit.
It's pouring! 
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Post by Questor on Feb 26, 2017 5:11:19 GMT -8
Yes, but Who and What am I? 10 hours ago quote edit like Post Options Post by alon on 10 hours ago Reply to 2nd post: I've posted this before, but it bears repeating; especially as you asked: RESPONSE TO JOE SHULAM ON THE DEITY OF THE MESSIAH AND RABBINIC TRADITION by MICHAEL L. BROWN (from Chosen People Ministries website) As I stated in my 2008 Oxford debate on the incarnation with Rabbi Shmuley Boteach, “Can Jews believe Jesus is God?" . . . if by the question you mean could God, who is complex in His unity, sit enthroned in heaven, filling the universe with His presence, infinite and uncontainable in His majesty, and yet at and one and same time manifest His glory among us in the tent of a human body for thirty-three years, then the answer is categorically yes, and there is nothing idolatrous about this belief at all. In fact, it is harmony with the Hebrew Scriptures, even explaining some of the mysteries of our own Bible, and on some level it has parallels with rabbinic concepts. In fact, in the midrash to Psalm 91 it is written, “At [the moment that Moses finished building the Tabernacle], a great question arose: How could a Tabernacle with walls and curtains contain the Presence of the Almighty? The Master of the Universe Himself explained, ‘The entire world cannot contain My glory, yet when I wish, I can concentrate My entire essence into one small spot. Indeed, I am Most High, yet I sit in a [limited, constricted] refuge – in the shadow of the Tabernacle.’" “And so, rather than being some crass religious notion that is hardly worthy of the Jewish people this is an extraordinarily rich and deep spiritual concept, explaining how the uncontainable God – the En Sof, the One without beginning or end – could walk among us in intimate fellowship, being transcendent and immanent at one and the same time, untouchable and touchable, invisible and yet, in a sense, visible.” -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Moshe saw the Glory of Hashem on the mountain, and there he was given , and his face glowed. But not before in the several times when he had talked to God. The Father willed it and Yeshua Spoke it, and it was all done through the power and work of the Ruach. Not three persons, but three aspects of One Being- Ehiyeh sh'Ehiyeh, "I Am That I Am" or "I Will Be That I Will Be." Not the Trinity that man has made Him, but One God: Devarim 6:4 (OJB) Shema Yisroel Adonoi Eloheinu Adonoi Echad. Deuteronomy 6:4 (CJB) “Sh’ma, Yisra’el! Adonai Eloheinu, Adonai echad [Hear, Isra’el! Adonai our God, Adonai is one]; For many years I was confused by my Trinitarian upbringing. How could God be Three Persons? Why the need for more than one person of a Godhead to stand around agreeing with each other? Seriously, my view of "Three Gods" was three tall, skinny men with long grey beards and those ridiculous paper crowns spray painted gold like we used to make in Sunday School! And they just stood in a beam of light, agreeing with each other. You may laugh, but how did you see God? Were you ever confused? These d'rashot by two knowlegable men explain God better to me than all my years of Trinitarian training. You do well to acknowlege the eternal deity of Yeshua. However you do (in my opinion) need to clarify who He is and what is His role. He IS God! Not part of a Godhead, but a manifestation of the One true God. This same God has manifest Himself in many ways- a burning bush, a voice, a pillar of fire and smoke to name a few familiar ones. And as Yeshua, Imanuel- God with us. As to the many ways He is referred to, God often speaks of Himself allegoricaly so that we may better understand Him. He sits on a throne, though He is spirit and so needs no seat of any kind. Yeshua sits at His right hand, which in most people is the hand of action, our primary appendage for getting things done. Take some time to search the archives here; I seem to recall that jimmie had some good scriptural insights to this in a couple of places ... I just don't emember where. But the main thing is I'd urge you to take God at His word:
Deuteronomy 6:4 (ESV) “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. Dan C Read more: theloveofgod.proboards.com/thread/4166/who?page=1#ixzz4ZnAZs7T8Yes, Abba is One, and it is a relief to get there, not that I have spent all that much time thinking separately. I have been working really hard to see Yeshua as the Christianized Gospels portray him, and I can't. I can see both, but not just one...actually, with the Ruach being added at the Baptism, to 'fulfill all righteousness', three.
In fact, it's very hard to hold the idea of Yeshua separately from Abba. It's a little easier to sense the Ruach than it is to see Yeshua as a separate part of G-d, and that only because it is described as the breath of G-d, breathing in and out, never really detached from Abba, but always pouring forth?
I understand that Abba has to make the points very clear, and fulfill every detail of a story long written, particularly to himself. He must be so sick of us...like a patient cat having to clean up her newborn offspring with her tongue! And then coughing up a hairball.
And I feel rather sick, too, thinking of what I saw and experienced my entire life, and did not see clearly the source of what I saw.
It is no wonder that I always felt protected...for all the stuff that has happened in my life, I have been watched over carefully, and never realized it. And prophecy...well Joel, certainly is happening, but at most I am a seer. I can't face the idea of prophecy, particularly when none have been given me. The gift of sight does not seem like a heavy thing, and besides, I have had it all my life.
My experience is not at all clear, or vivid...it's like having only half of a gift, if so. But I look at my entire experience and see that what I was doing was all from Abba, and only twisted to make it seem like the Adversary was involved at all.
Strangely, the occult is not what most people think it, or at least, nothing I ever saw. To me it's all fake, this idea of witches, and blood sacrifices, except as an allegory. It's like it mostly is portrayed in the Bible...people sensing things, or seeing things in their dreams, but not much more. Yes, one can have power, and it's a hot, angry feeling thing...and probably why anger and hatred is so much used to stoke the idea of power. But mostly it is the manipulation of energy, and people and things. The story of the occult is uglier than the reality I saw at the baptism, but the occult itself probably is mostly fantasy.
I do not doubt that sorcery occurs, but changing things into other things is merely a different use of energy in this technical age. When we can do it with our will, we will be sorcerors too, but it will be by the permission of the Sorcerer-in-Chief.
Since the Adversary is not a Christian idea, but a Jewish one, what are we doing with the imagery of the Beast?
I would find it easier to see the 'Beast' as the Dragon portrayed in the constellations configuaration that is about to happen, they say, above us, and yet, what...somehow also a fallen Churubim? No. Just another Kingdom represented by a Beast...because of heraldry that would one day exist, and thus be understood by the endtime generation, yet also representative of certain ruler's traits, or the kingdoms at any rate.
Abba as Yeshua speaking metaphorically of something actually falling...light falling, not a person who was a Cherubim once. I think that the Adversary still stalks around the heavens, seeing what there is to see, because that's his job.
Sorting out what is fact and what is fancy in the Bible is an incredible task, and not one I relish. I simply want Abba to bring it all to a close, and get it over with, and present us with a clean copy of the denuded Scriptures, that simply tell us how to get on with our lives, but it's never that easy.
It makes the end time prophecies much easier to understand, as soon as you take the magician out of the way...that Christian Church that the Greco-Roman's invented, under the auspices of the Adversary. But take away all that is fantastic and truly inventive in the prophecies and you have...astronomy, and mathematics, and the counting of calendars, and the passage of years, and finally it is all done, and can be tied up with a bow of ribbon, and handed over as a completed certificate of achievement.
After all, Puff the Magic Dragon was simply LSD. And prophets are simply those that actually see a dream, and can describe it, and that is what I already discovered I was...an explainer. The 'sight' is not all that interesting, otherwise. It is intermittent, and unreliable. You learn not to look. No doubt that was why Elijah was so grumpy all the time. I don't doubt his ability to see much more clearly than I do, but then, I hit my head on a steering wheel, and some allowances must be made. And of course, the Celiac Disease that bares my nerve fibers in the first place, which probably causes the 'sight' difficulty...or allows it, depending on your phrasing.
I think that having every detail of my life known ahead of time is not fun if I don't get to know it too, and can makes some arrangements. And my friend from childhood? The Prophet who see's all kinds of things is a firm Believer, but also has MS. How much of what is wrong with us is caused to make sure something else occurs?
I will rewrite my About page tomorrow, but I don't think I want to talk about prophecy anymore...at least tonight, anyway. I don't think people understand what it means at all...it's a very little gift...dream interpretation would have been a better one.
Thank you for your patience, and seeing me through all of this.
Q
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Post by alon on Feb 26, 2017 5:34:36 GMT -8
You don't see the contradiction in that statement? And you still speak of God as if He is thee persons. If you hear from Him in any way or manifestation, you've heard from God; not Abba or Yeshua or the Ruach alone, but Elohim in all His plural majesty! I still question whether some of what you describe is from God, but if it is it is from One God, not one part of God. That is a prophecy of the Olam haba. It is not one of contemporary accounting. Simply put, "We ain't there yet!" Another piece of advice, since you asked: you are back to writing really long posts which say less than those shorter, well thought out posts you started with. You need to organize your thoughts and speak more concisely. More people will read you, and they'll get more out of it. I know someone told you long posts are best on a blog; but I bet they meant longer, well organized posts with a LOT of information. Frankly, I don't see this instant gratification generation reading past the first paragraph on anything. It is the age of the short sound bite, multitasking (read that doing a lot badly), and oddly people writing lo-o-o-ong posts about everything they did in their day- like anyone is going to read them. But all their friends "like" their posts, so they get that endorphin rush just like the drug addict. You want people to actually read your blog, and maybe comment on it? My advice is short posts PACKED with solid, well researched info and backed by short references. Same here. Long posts don't get read much except by me. I have to. I do have the "Nuclear Option" of nixing long posts. But I'd rather give people, especially people who asked for help, the chance to improve on their own. Please, for the sake of my eyesight and headaches, please shorten 'em up!  Dan  C |
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Post by Questor on Feb 26, 2017 13:30:49 GMT -8
You don't see the contradiction in that statement? And you still speak of God as if He is thee persons. If you hear from Him in any way or manifestation, you've heard from God; not Abba or Yeshua or the Ruach alone, but Elohim in all His plural majesty! I still question whether some of what you describe is from God, but if it is it is from One God, not one part of God. I don't doubt that I am having great difficulty in phrasing a universal application of Adonai, merely because I can hear of the Ruach ha Kodesh somehow being separate from G-d in the Gospels. Everyone speaks of empowerment by the Ruach haKodesh. How does one describe the infilling of Adonai as Yeshua otherwise?
That is a prophecy of the Olam haba. It is not one of contemporary accounting. Simply put, "We ain't there yet!"
Why then do people even have the gifts of the Spirit then?Another piece of advice, since you asked: you are back to writing really long posts which say less than those shorter, well thought out posts you started with. You need to organize your thoughts and speak more concisely. More people will read you, and they'll get more out of it. I know someone told you long posts are best on a blog; but I bet they meant longer, well organized posts with a LOT of information. Frankly, I don't see this instant gratification generation reading past the first paragraph on anything. It is the age of the short sound bite, multitasking (read that doing a lot badly), and oddly people writing lo-o-o-ong posts about everything they did in their day- like anyone is going to read them. But all their friends "like" their posts, so they get that endorphin rush just like the drug addict. You want people to actually read your blog, and maybe comment on it? My advice is short posts PACKED with solid, well researched info and backed by short references. Same here. Long posts don't get read much except by me. I have to. I do have the "Nuclear Option" of nixing long posts. But I'd rather give people, especially people who asked for help, the chance to improve on their own. Please, for the sake of my eyesight and headaches, please shorten 'em up! Dan C
But what do I do about the so-called prophetic endowment that is pretty much useless except for a greatly facilitated ability to hear Abba. And I will be more than pleased to not speak of Abba as other than Abba AS Yeshua, except the the Apostolic writings don't put it that way, and so I have no example.
And after a third night in a row of short sleep due to some kind of 'Interesting Information' that I was not expecting (a nice euphemism for what ever I learned, and However I learned it!) I am a little puzzled by how one can have an deposit of the Ruach on one's baptism, along with a vision, and not speak of the Ruach separately? |
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Post by Questor on Feb 26, 2017 13:42:32 GMT -8
Okay, time for a rehearsal of the facts, and some questions.
Abba and Yeshua An the Ruach are one, echad. No problem, I always thought so...I was taught to speak of them as separate. That can be corrected, but are the aspects of G-d a continuing thing for those that Believe? Does one retain the deposit of the Ruach one receives on Baptism if a true G-d Fearer, and Believer in G-d the Son as my redeemer?
And then does Yeshua really redeem me, or does G-d as Yeshua? I understand that G-d as Yeshua experienced a hideous human death, and then resurrected himself, having taking all the sin debt for everone that needs to be paid by someone to those harmed, including G-d, who simply thows it into the Sea of Forgetfulness, but compensation is due those all of us harm, and Yeshua, in Abba does that.
Yet why does Yeshua speak of turning the kingdom back to the Father in Revelation at the end of the Millenium?
I don't mind the use of Allegory, but in discussion, one needs to drop that and stop talking that way, right?
Next, looking back on my Baptism, at which I was appropriated dunked, and received instantly a terrifying vision of the reality of the people I was with. How do I know whether that was the Adversary waiting to pounce, as opposed to a full gifting of the 'sight'. I don't say prophecy, because I have never given a prophecy to anyone, nor received one to give. I just hear and see things that others don't say they hear and see.
Just asking! 
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Post by alon on Feb 26, 2017 17:06:43 GMT -8
How is it so difficult to see the Ruach as a manifestation of an infinite God rather than a separate being of a Godhead? That the Ruach is a manifestation is to me the more miraculous thing. This view highlights the infinite power of Almighty God better than just One of Three.
How does a massive outpouring later preclude our having some gifts now?
I'll also ask why it is that those whose focus is on the gifts always want the easy ones? Prophecy, visions, tongues, all are easy and lift up the person rather than doing the work of God. Why do we never see the gift of giving sought or lauded but the "gifts" crowd?
You say you have the gift of writing. But that would entail more than just hammering out a bunch of words and posting it. It requires editing, organizing and reorganizing and writing so that others understand clearly what you are saying. Here's just a small example:
"Why then do people even have the gifts of the Spirit spiritual gifts then today?" Colors obviously for illustration, but this eliminates redundant verbiage and gets the point across much more succinctly and clearly. But it takes work, especially in the kind of long posts you are prone to write. Leaving this to your readers to do will lose most, and the few who do try to do this for you cannot get it all right. Even you do not seem to know what you want to say, as your thoughts are scattered and statements often contradictory. Spend some time editing. A lot more time editing than just writing.
Dan C
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