Can we be under the 'New Covenant'

[Ruchamah]

..with all the 2 cents being tossed in, some charity will get a bonus check!


I dont see the animal sacrifices as purely symbolic: they were in fact efficacious in allowing a man defiled by the world around him and the evil of his own heart to *draw near* to the Most High in His House on earth without becoming toast, like Nadab and Abihu. The sacrifices represent the protocol He established for approaching Him.

To answer an earlier qwestion addressed to Reuel: If the Temple and or altar was reinstituted today, i would have my ticket to Jerusalem in hand by tomorrow to participate in the appointed worship of the Most High.

Blessings,
Ruchamah

[R' Y'hoshua Moshe]

To answer an earlier question addressed to Reuel: If the Temple and or altar was reinstituted today, i would have my ticket to Jerusalem in hand by tomorrow to participate in the appointed worship of the Most High.

As it was with Yeshua and His talmidim (disciples), so would it be with me.

The phrase "under the law" can have different applications. One is the idea of being under the authority of man-made law, which in Judaism is mixed with the Law of God. The other idea is purely focusing on God's law and it's judgment. The context makes it clear which is being addressed.

"For sin shall not have dominion over you: for you are not under the law, but under grace." - Romans 6:14

I believe Romans 6:14 is speaking about God's law. Those whom make it a regular habit and lifestyle of transgressing it are under the bondage of sin. In other words, sin has dominion in such a one's life. From the very beginning in the book of Beresheet (Genesis) Adonai instructed us to rule over sin (4:7). One of the major points of the New Covenant is that we would be empowered to rule over sin in our lives. This was the purpose of Messiah's coming...

"He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. To this end the Son of God was revealed, that he might destroy the works of the devil." - 1Yochanan (John) 3:8

And, we know from 1Yochanan 3:4 that sin is transgression of the (Law). The context of this chapter is to destroy the works of the devil in us, to get us to stop sinning. This is the reason for writing the (law) on our heart, so we would have a heart to keep it, instead of transgress it. Therefore, we are not under the law in the sense that if we have entered into the New Covenant we have become a new creation with a new heart that is not constantly transgressing our Heavenly Father's commands. We won't constantly be under the dominion of sin because of the indwelling of Adonai's Spirit. Romans 8 tells us beforehand it was not possible for us to be subject to Adonai's (law)...

"For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. For the mind of the flesh is death, but the mind of the Spirit is life and shalom; because the mind of the flesh is hostile towards God; for it is not subject to God's law, neither indeed can it be. Those who are in the flesh can't please God." - Romans 8:5-8

So, are we under the New Covenant? We need to define our terms. What does "under " in this question mean to you? According to Romans the term is used to denote one being in bondage to sin (one living a lifestyle of breaking ), as this is the context. In this light, I don't know that I would ask the question, "Are we under the New Covenant". The New Covenant empowers us and affords us the grace that enables us to rule over sin in our life. Instead of being under the Brit Chadashah (New Covenant), it clothes us in garments of salvation. It lifts us off the ground where we previously lay mortally wounded under the foot of our transgressions. But, if you are asking if we under the authority of the addition known as the "New Covenant" to the compound covenant of Elohim, I would answer in the affirmative.

Shalom,

Reuel

[darrell]

Hi Reuel,

I read the previous post and it seems you do recognize that the blessings of the New Covenant are in fact in operation today.

Did I read you right?

Concerning some of the things discussed, there were some good questions asked (thank you Matty James for raising the subject).

I have seen enough on this forum to see there is a general consensus that obedience to the Law is essential. The question is, do you see it as essential to salvation (and yes, I'm aware there are those who do not see salvation as an event in the life of a believer where they are at that time transformed), but there is a point when a "sinner" comes into a relationship with God.

Now, to try to bring this back on topic, I will just make a statement, and ask for a response:

The blessings of Ezekial 36 are apparently promises of the New Covenant, and even though the Abrahamic, Davidic, and New Covenant will not see their fulfillment until "the new Heaven and Earth", the blessings associated with those covenants have in fact found at the very least, partial fulfillment.

And I see those blessings ( espec. Ezekial 36 24-27) fulfilled in in the body of believers today. The characteristics are too similiar to deny this.

This question is presented to all.