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[Sam]

I don't recommend relying on teachings found therein in regards to observance at this point in time.

I also agree. It's tuff being stereotyped.

From the Article:

The Inner is not the Outer

No but the outer teaches us about the inner.

...[L]ove is the fulfilling of the [].

Thank G-d for Yeshua.

Shalom

[Sam]

Oh, and thanks for those links Sam.

Your Welcome.

[Sam]

What do the names of these vowels mean? I have no trouble pronouncing them when I'm reading but I'm having trouble memorizing the actual names.

Patach -
Segol -
Sh'va - Seven
Qubbuts -
Shuruq -
Chataph patach -
Chataph segol -
Qamats -
Tsere -
Chireq -
Cholam -
Cholam maley -
Chataph qamats -


Shalom Aleichem

[R' Y'hoshua Moshe]

What do the names of these vowels mean? I have no trouble pronouncing them when I'm reading but I'm having trouble memorizing the actual names.

This is a good question. I will have to research this.

In regards to John's Hebrew website, I just got the following e-mail that was sent to me and many others on his mailing list...

Dear Reuel,

Of all the Jewish holidays, the Jewish Sabbath, or Shabbat , is considered the most important of all. In fact, the Jewish sages regard Shabbat as more important than Yom Kippur or any of the other High Holidays, since it alone is explicitly commanded by the LORD in the Ten Commandments!

Celebrate Shabbat!
We must start here, then, if we are serious about observing "the times and seasons" appointed by our LORD.

To make it easier for you to begin observing Shabbat, I added an online Shabbat Seder to the Hebrew for Christians web site. Now you can download and print a guide to Shabbat for your reference and study.

Download the Shabbat Seder Guide (PDF format)

I sincerely hope you will find this material useful and that it will help you draw closer to the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob through the grace of our Lord Yeshua (Jesus) the Mashiach. Thank you for your support and prayers for this work.

b'ahavat Yeshua,

John Parsons
Hebrew for Christians

Looks like he is promoting here.

Shalom chaverim,

Reuel

[Sam]

Shalom, if anyone knows where I can find an online version of Matityahu in the original Hebrew that would be great. Thanks.

[R' Y'hoshua Moshe]

In regards to the Shem Tob version of the supposed Hebrew version of the Gospel of Matthew...It has been found that it is not what many people think it to be. It is, to the shock of many....an anti-missionary work from the Medieval time. The following is a quote from an online article for which I have provided a link...

There are no ancient fragments of any Hebrew text of Matthew, as the source of this Hebrew Matthew is Medieval in origin.

It is clearly documented that the so-called Hebrew Gospel of Matthew does not come from sources that would advocate a belief in Yeshua. It comes from a work refuting a belief in Yeshua, there is some errant theology in this text that is often not recognized by proponents of it. This may come because some proponents of a Hebrew Matthew are “blinded” out of a desire to want to have a “Hebrew New Testament,” so that they are willing to accept a text that has errant doctrine in it, and because they are not objective enough so as to test it theologically against the Greek texts of Scripture. Howard, however, is quite honest by commenting that “In regard to theology, Shem-Tob’s Hebrew Matthew is heretical according to the standard of traditional Christianity. It never identifies Jesus with the Messiah. John the Baptist is given an exalted role (even takes on messianic traits)…Shem-Tob’s text envisions the salvation of Gentiles only in the Messianic era” (p 234).

The following is a link that handles the issue:

www.tnnonline.net/faq/m.html

Also, I was going to look up the Hebrew words that you asked for information on, but I don't see the post anymore. Did you delete it?

In regards to the vowel marking question that was asked on Apr 14th, 2005, much of the meaning of the nikkudim (points) is unknown. What is known is that the Massoretes were concerned that the Jewish people started to forget the Hebrew language. The fear was that the Jewish people would forget how to add the proper vowels when reading the Hebrew texts. So, they added a system of nikkudim (vowel points). Baruch HaShem that they did as they are truly an effective aid! Although, the Massoretes did not give us instructions for the interpretation of these nikkudim. What scholars do agree on is that these markings divide the text into sections and aid in the correct interpretation of the Hebrew texts. Of course, the original Hebrew text does not have vowel markings as the ancient reader was already familiar with the language and the markings were not necessary.

Shalom chaver,

Reuel

[Sam]

Erev Tov,

In regards to the Shem Tob version of the supposed Hebrew version…It is, to the shock of many....an anti-missionary work from the Medieval time.

Wow, I didn’t know that. Does the HRV use this or do they translate Matityahu from Aramaic? If yes how different is Aramaic from Hebrew and can I get an online copy?

Also, I was going to look up the Hebrew words that you asked for information on, but I don't see the post anymore. Did you delete it?

Yeah, I decided it was probably best that I didn’t use you guys as human dictionaries. However, I have been having trouble finding a good online Hebrew dictionary. The ones I’ve found don’t go into any depth. If you have any resources I’d appreciate them.

Shalom and thanks Reuel I owe you chaver have a peaceful Shabbat.

[Chizuk Emunah]

I think some are too quick to dismiss the work of Shem Tov out of hand. Even if it was anti-missionary, he did us a great favor by translating it back into Ivrit.

As regards to your question Sam, the HRV uses these manuscripts for the "New Testament": Shem Tob, DuTillet and Munster Hebrew Matthew; Munster Hebrew Hebrews; The Old Syriac Aramaic Gospels; The Aramaic Pesh'tta NT and the Crawford Aramaic Revelation. So they never rely on one manuscript exclusively for their translation. I have an HRV, and I think it's a great Bible to have. It's actually really great to have as a study Bible.

[Rick]

theloveofgod.proboards3.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&n=1&thread=745
Notzari Y'hudi, please check this post. Thanks, Rick

[R' Y'hoshua Moshe]

It would be interesting to see how the HRV translates Mat. because of Shem Tob. How does it compare to the objections as found by visiting the following link?:

www.tnnonline.net/faq/m.html

Actually, maybe we should start a new thread to take a look at this new version and it's textual differences.

Shalom chaverim,

Reuel

[Chizuk Emunah]

Well, I would be more than happy to start up an HRV thread. Since posting the entire text of Mattiyahu would be tedious, perhaps you could give me specific references to look up, and I could post the HRV translation for them.

[R' Y'hoshua Moshe]

Shalom achi,

I will post the particular passages and their differences from other versions in the new thread started for this subject and then we can compare it to how the HRV translates them.

B'shem Yeshua HaMashiach
(In the name of Yeshua The Messiah),

Reuel

[Chizuk Emunah]

The new thread for this topic can be found here: The HRV

[Rick]

This is cool:

Jun. 30, 2006 0:47
Hebrew learning channel to air this fall
By ADINAH GREENE

The Ministry of Immigrant Absorption is launching an interactive television channel to help immigrants learn Hebrew. At a press conference this week, the ministry signed a contract with Effective X, the company that won the bidding to produce the new television channel that will air on Hot and Yes-1.

The initial investment is NIS 3 million. Each company will have a channel where families can learn Hebrew at their own pace, with show topics designed to assist people with activities such as going to the bank.

"The channel is the acme of the mass program the ministry led to strengthen the [knowledge of the] Hebrew language," said Minister of Immigrant Absorption Ze'ev Boim. "It's a 180-degree change in the known method of teaching Hebrew."

The new channels will start airing in October.

[Chizuk Emunah]

Sounds great! Wonder if it will be broadcast in the US?