Ark symbol of Yeshua?

[mosheli]

I wasn't sure which subforum to put this in as it didn't seem appropriate to post it in the why Yeshua is messiah one, or the one.

This is a list of similarities or correspondences between the Ark and Yeshua, which is the reason why I think that the Ark of the Covenant seems to be a symbol of Yeshua/Jesus.  If you think it is not right or if you see any incorrect bits in the piece then do post corrections.

Ark: is a box/chest, there were directions to make it.
Yeshua/Jesus: is a human vessel, conceived by holy spirit after angel's directions, "a body you have prepared for me".

Ark: the ark (and/or the grail) is identified by some with Mary who was called "Ark" in some sources. The ark "contained a hexagram representing the sexual union of God and Goddess". The golden ark in holy of holies "symbolised the localised presence of God on earth".
Yeshua/Jesus: conceived by the holy spirit in virgin Mary. Emmanuel "God with us". The "only begotten" "son of (the most high) God".
"No one has see God but the son". "He who has seen me has seen the Father". *

Ark: Joshua and ark pass through the Jordan river.
Yeshua/Jesus: was baptised in the Jordan.

Ark: ritual washing before approaching it.
Yeshua/Jesus: John's baptism for repentance before Yeshua/Jesus.

Ark: for tabernacle use, brought into temple by Solomon.
Yeshua/Jesus: was in the temple a number of times.
Became our (great) high priest when died on cross. Temple curtain torn when Yeshua/Jesus died. "The time will come when people will not worship here or in Jerusalem but will worship wherever in spirit and truth". Our body is the temple of the holy spirit.

Ark: Ark of the covenant (brit/berit?)
Yeshua/Jesus: Yeshua/Jesus of Nazareth, a Nazarene or Nazirite "consecrated" or Nozrei ha-Brit "Keepers of the Convenant". The New covenant/testament.

Ark: contained pot of manna
Yeshua/Jesus: Yeshua/Jesus implied that he was "the true bread from heaven". Communion bread & wine.

Ark: was in the house of Obed-Edom "servant of Edom/Adam" (Edom/Adam means "red" or "earth" or "man").
Yeshua/Jesus: was in realm of Herod who was Idumean/Edomite.
Yeshua/Jesus via David had an ancestor named Obed.
Yeshua/Jesus came to serve, the suffering servant.
Yeshua/Jesus is the "son of man", and the "new/second/last Adam".
Yeshua/Jesus is the son of David who was "ruddy/red".
Yeshua/Jesus spoke Aramaic (connected with Adam by d/r interchange).
In the second coming Yeshua/Jesus comes from Teman/Bozrah in Edom in one biblical end times prophecy.

Ark: "heavily guarded".
Yeshua/Jesus: angels protected him. Disciples protected him.

Ark: "sacred object"
Yeshua/Jesus: holy, annointed, lamb with no blemish/sin, worthy.

Ark: of such sanctity that unauthorized person touching it is an infraction.
Yeshua/Jesus: "holy", son of god.

Ark: "power"
Yeshua/Jesus: power(ful).

Ark: returned to Kiriath-jearim
Yeshua/Jesus: Nazareth? Capernaum? Emmaus? Bethlehem? Jerusalem? Resurrection?

Ark: kept at Shiloh.
Yeshua/Jesus: identified as the messiah and as Shiloh of "until Shiloh comes", prince/king of peace (Shalem/Shalom).

Ark: captured by Philistines "strangers"
Yeshua/Jesus: Jews betrayed him to Romans

Ark: taken to Jerusalem.
Yeshua/Jesus: set face to go to Jerusalem. Is in the New Jerusalem.

Ark: word aron "ark" also means "coffin".
Yeshua/Jesus: lamb of God who died on cross.

Ark: nothing known of its later history; is in temple in heaven in Revelation.
Yeshua/Jesus: resurrected Yeshua/Jesus only revealed to the disciples, ascended to heaven, seated at right hand of God, our high priest, in our hearts (body is temple).

Ark: Koran says ark is "a sign of his kingship" and "a sign for you".
Yeshua/Jesus: king of the Jews, King of Kings, sign of Jonah.

Ark: called "ark of God", "ark of the lord"
Yeshua/Jesus: called "lord", "son of God", "lamb of God", "angel of the lord"

Ark: word for ark in Hebrew is aron or arek, while in gentile it is kibotos or cistae.
Yeshua/Jesus: Christ & Christian(s)?

Ark: The rod of Aaron (who was high priest) was inside the ark. "Ark" is 'aron' in Hebrew. Aaron means either "lofty, exalted, mountaineer" or "(a) light, enlightener" or an uncertain Egyptian origin.
Yeshua/Jesus: is our (great) high priest.
Yeshua/Jesus is the light.

Ark: contained Aaron's rod that budded.
Yeshua/Jesus: is called "sprout/shoot/branch" in the prophets. Is our high priest. Corresponds with high priest Jeshua in Haggai/Zechariah.
Yeshua/Jesus has a rod of iron in Revelation.

Ark: contained 2 or 3 items (tablets of law, jar of manna, & Aarons rod?).
Yeshua/Jesus: 3 offices (king, priest, prophet)? Trinity? "I am the way, the truth and the life"? Loaves & fishes?

Ark: organ through which God spoke.
Yeshua/Jesus: Newton etc saw Yeshua/Jesus as interpreter. Called the Word (of God) in John.

Ark: may have decayed over centuries/millenia?
Yeshua/Jesus: christianity/church decayed over millenia?

Ark: "Jewish fear of discovery".
Yeshua/Jesus: Jews have been pretty anti-Yeshua/Jesus. Jews driven to jealousy (Paul).

Ark: "unthinkable of excavating [for the ark] until the messiah comes".
Yeshua/Jesus: is the messiah. The ark is symbol of him.

Ark: recovered from Philistines.
Yeshua/Jesus: Yeshua/Jesus was cricified by Romans, but he rose again. Christianity has mainly been gentiles/Romans between the destruction of Jerusalem and the end times when a remnant third of Jews will be saved.

Ark: Babylonian conquest.
Yeshua/Jesus: Roman invasion.

Ark: carried by sons of Levi on wilderness wanderings (for 40 yrs).
Yeshua/Jesus: 40 days of temptation/fasting in wilderness.
(Yeshua/Jesus might have died at 40 years old?)
We carry Yeshua/Jesus around with us in our heart everywhere we go.

Ark: rings on side for poles for carrying, transportable, transported on ox-cart, placed in tabernacle tent.
Yeshua/Jesus: rode on colt/ass, carried his cross, bore our sin/sins/sickness. Yeshua/Jesus/God carried around in our hearts, our bodies are tabernacles & temples of the holy spirit.

Ark: stone tablet/tablets of law inside.
Yeshua/Jesus: Yeshua/Jesus kept the Mosaic law/commandments, fulfilled the law after he died on the cross, he is the Word (which includes to /Law). In the Bible skip code the name Yeshua is found in and"points to Leviticus / the Law". "The interpreter of the law" in the Dead Sea Scrolls. "The law will go forth from Zion" (Davids city)? The law is written in Messianic's/Christian's hearts. "He who loves me keeps my commandments". (We are not saved by only trying to keep the law but by dying and raising with him.)

Ark: associated with Mt Sinai/Horeb, and/or Zion/Moriah.
Yeshua/Jesus: associated with Mt Calvary/Golgotha, and Zion. (Paul compared Sinai/Hagar and Calvary/Sarah.)
Sermon on the mount? Mount of the transfiguration?

Ark: Some suggest the ark is the throne of David that the messiah will sit on?
Yeshua/Jesus: is the son of David, king of the Jews. Is the messiah.

Ark: "mercy seat", "to purify, attone", same root word as in yom kipper "day of attonement", connected with blood in Mosaic ritual.
Yeshua/Jesus: Yeshua/Jesus died for us, symbolised by Abel's sacrifice, "I require mercy not sacrifice", covers/cleanses our sin.
Ron Wyatt claimed that he found that Yeshua/Jesus blood had dripped on the Ark's mercy seat?
The Ark has also been corresponded with the Holy Grail, and there is also a traditional theory that drops of Yeshua/Jesus blood were caught in the grail.

Ark: The ark is a most beautiful golden object. ("Bronze = judgement, Gold = purified".)
Yeshua/Jesus: Although the prophet Isaiah(?) said there was nothing special about Yeshua/Jesus physical appearance, Yeshua/Jesus is the most wonderful thing in the bible.
Stephen in Acts said Moses was a very beautiful/handsome baby/child, and Moses said the Messiah (Yeshua/Jesus) would be a prophet like himself.

Ark: was gold(en) (within and without), is treasure, a most sought for object. ("Bronze = judgement, Gold = purified".)
Yeshua/Jesus: He was sold for 30 pieces of silver. Yeshua/Jesus is the most precious treasure/pearl. "you are poor, but you are rich" (Revelation 2-3).
(He fixes us inside & out.)

Ark: "no more will people say 'the ark'" in Jeremiah 3:16.
Yeshua/Jesus: Yeshua/Jesus is more precious/wonderful than the ark.
"The time will come when people will not worship here or at Jerusalem but will worship anywhere n spirit and truth."

Ark: Ark carried 7 times around Jericho.
Yeshua/Jesus: 7 seals (Revelation)? 7 churches? 70th week of Daniel?

Ark: compasses Jericho.
Yeshua/Jesus: passed through Jericho. Ministry circuit?

Ark: 2 cherubim on top ("Michael & Lucifer"? 2 cherubim guarding in Eden?)
Yeshua/Jesus: hermaphrodite/androgyne? 2 comings/messiahs? king & priest? Alpha & Omega? full of grace & truth? father & spirit? son & holy spirit? Yeshua/Jesus & John? 2 witnesses Moses & Elijah? Israel & Church? Yeshua/Jesus & Lucifer rivals in some sources? 2 theives/crosses on either side (like the baker and cupbearer in Joseph story)?

Ark: had a cover/lid.
Yeshua/Jesus: annointed?

Ark: Hislop connected the word Archia/Architis with Ruach "spiritual". Arke is also the word for earth(s) in a Jewish legend about Cain? Archons are archangels/aeons in Gnosticism, and in Greek political/state history?
Yeshua/Jesus: had the Ruach "(holy) spirit". Was the 2nd/last Adam (earth man). Angel of the Lord.

Ark: The English word ark also used for Noah's Ark. Wyatt claimed to have found both of the 2 arks.
Yeshua/Jesus: Noah's Flood & Ark is a type of baptism and dying with Christ.
He is in us (like Ark in temple) & we are in him (like Noah's Ark).
Yeshua/Jesus in boat in storm in sea/lake of Galilee.

Ark: The kabod or shekinah (of God) was above the mercy seat. (The Islamic Arabic cognate of Shekinah means peace of reassurance or spirit of tranquility.)
Yeshua/Jesus: The spirit rested on him like a dove. Annointed. "Prince/King of Peace".
Ark: made of acacia/shittim wood, 2 ft wide & 3 ft long.
Yeshua/Jesus: was a Sethite, was a "carpenter". The cross was made of wood, thecross has long trunk & short arms. The tree of life.
(Yeshua/Jesus also symbolised by Noah's Ark which was also made of wood.)

Ark: "symbolised the localised presence of God on earth (in judgment, mercy, forgiveness, and love)".
Yeshua/Jesus: is associated with judgment, mercy, forgiveness, love.

Ark: was in or was the most holy place of the Tabernacle or holy of holies "or place of the three holy ones" of the Temple?
Yeshua/Jesus: is holy.
Body is temple of the holy spirit. Messianics and Christians have God/Yeshua/Jesus in our hearts. *

Ark: The Most Holy Place of the Tabernacle contained golden censor and ark of the covenant.
Yeshua/Jesus: Our body is the temple of the holy spirit. We have Yeshua/Jesus in our hearts. The golden censer might represent the holy spirit or our prayers?

Ark: Ark and Aaronic high priest in holy of holies of temple/tabenacle in 'Hebrews'. The ark stays in the temple; the high priest comes and goes (and only once a year). The ark was the central object not the high priest?
Yeshua/Jesus: Our body is the temple of the holy spirit. We have Yeshua/Jesus in our hearts. Yeshua/Jesus is our (great) hight priest of the order of Melchizedek. Yeshua/Jesus was not of Levite descent but of Judahite descent. We are also "kings and priests". Yeshua/Jesus doesn't leave our hearts.

* Compare/contrast: In Islam the Kaaba stone/rock in the house at Mecca is a bethel "house of God" of Allah/Allat.

[alon]

Nov 21, 2020 1:09:16 GMT -8 mosheli said:

I wasn't sure which subforum to put this in as it didn't seem appropriate to post it in the why Yeshua is messiah one, or the Torah one. 
This is a list of similarities or correspondences between the Ark and Yeshua, which is the reason why I think that the Ark of the Covenant seems to be a symbol of Yeshua/Jesus.  If you think it is not right or if you see any incorrect bits in the piece then do post corrections.

This one is fine. I believe you are correct, as the entire TNK in some way points to Yeshua. There are a few issues to discuss though:

Ark: the ark (and/or the grail) is identified by some with Mary who was called "Ark" in some sources. The ark "contained a hexagram representing the sexual union of God and Goddess". The golden ark in holy of holies "symbolised the localised presence of God on earth".
Yeshua/Jesus: conceived by the holy spirit in virgin Mary. Emmanuel "God with us". The "only begotten" "son of (the most high) God".
"No one has see God but the son". "He who has seen me has seen the Father". * Where is it written the Ark contains a hexagram? I don’t recall that detail. Regardless, the mythology of the “eternal goddess” is eastern, Tantric in origin. And according to this myth the goddess created God. It is a satanic perversion of the triadic hexagram (Magen Dovid/Star of David). Therefore it would fly in the face of everything Messianics, Christians, and Jews believe. And I know some ancient (so called) sages in Judaism believed in this. But you can find all kinds of beliefs in ancient Judaism. Just read the Zohar, it gets even wilder than that.

So now I have to ask, is this what you meant? Do you believe in this?

Ark: Ark of the covenant (brit/berit?)
Yeshua/Jesus: Yeshua/Jesus of Nazareth, a Nazarene or Nazirite "consecrated" or Nozrei ha-Brit "Keepers of the Convenant". The New covenant/testament.

Mat 2:23 (NASB) “And came and lived in a city called Nazareth. This was to fulfill what was spoken through the prophets: “He shall be called a Nazarene.”

Nazarene and Nazarite are different terms, with far different meanings. And while in English they sound similar, in Hebrew they don’t share the same root. 
נָזִיר nazir, “Nazarite” always means someone “consecrated” or “devoted” to God; either by the Nazarite vow or by being consecrated for life by his/her parents. Notice it’s spelled with a tzayin as the second letter. There is no record of Yeshua ever taking this vow. An argument could be made that He was consecrated by the Father, however there were specific things that set one so consecrated apart. Remember Shimshon (Samson) and his hair? Another thing is no grape products could touch the lips of a natzir.

Matthew 2:23 uses the Greek Ναζαρέτ, which in Hebrew is נְצָרֶת natzaret; and Ναζωραῖος nazoraios, an inhabitant of Nazareth- a Nazarene. These terms are connected to the Hebrew נֵצֶר netzer, branch, shoot, or sprout. Note the second letter in נֵצֶר netzer is not a Zayin, but a Tzadeh. Thy sound similar, and may even be represented by the same letters in Greek and in English, but they are entirely different. He was “Yeshua ha’notsri,” Jesus the Nazarene.

Ark: Koran says ark is "a sign of his kingship" and "a sign for you".
Yeshua/Jesus: king of the Jews, King of Kings, sign of Jonah.
The Koran, while sharing some Hebraic beliefs because Muhammad wanted to convert/assimilate them, is a pagan source and represents a particularly vile religion. Therefore even when it agrees it would not be considered a viable source.

Ark: word for ark in Hebrew is aron or arek, while in gentile it is kibotos or cistae.
Yeshua/Jesus: Christ & Christian(s)? Christians did  not exist in the time of Yeshua or his shaliachim (apostles). The confusion comes Acts 11:26 where the disciples were first called Χριστιανός Christianos, meaning followers of the Christ, a.k.a. ha’moshiach, the Messiah. That has nothing to do with Christianity, and everything to do with Yeshua HaMoshiach, the Hebrew Messiah.

Ark: may have decayed over centuries/millenia?
Yeshua/Jesus: christianity/church decayed over millenia? Christianity developed completely apart from and in opposition to the sect of the Notsarim, which flourished completely apart from both Christianity and Judaism at least well into the 7th cen CE (the last mention of them by the church fathers). As for decay relating a thing to Yeshua, His body was never to see decay (Act 13:37).

Ark: recovered from Philistines.
Yeshua/Jesus: Yeshua/Jesus was cricified by Romans, but he rose again. Christianity has mainly been gentiles/Romans between the destruction of Jerusalem and the end times when a remnant third of Jews will be saved. Actually, as a percentage more Jews believe in Yeshua as the Messiah than Gentiles. And many of those never gave up their Jewishness to become Christians. They simply became Messianics. But yes, numerically there are far more Gentiles in Christianity than Jews. However we should not confuse Messianism and Christianity, as they are two completely different belief systems.

Ark: stone tablet/tablets of law inside.
Yeshua/Jesus: Yeshua/Jesus kept the Mosaic law/commandments, fulfilled the law after he died on the cross, he is the Word (which includes to Torah/Law). In the Bible skip code the name Yeshua is found in Torah and"points to Leviticus / the Law". "The interpreter of the law" in the Dead Sea Scrolls. "The law will go forth from Zion" (Davids city)? The law is written in Messianic's/Christian's hearts. "He who loves me keeps my commandments". (We are not saved by only trying to keep the law but by dying and raising with him.) Yeshua fulfilled Torah by coming and by keeping the law perfectly. Saying He fulfilled the law by His death is Christian doctrine, as they say He “nailed the law to the Cross.” That is absurd and incorrect. What was typically nailed to the execution stake above the condemned was a list of the charges, equating to sins. It was our sins that were nailed to the Cross, not the law, as He bore the penalty for those sins in our stead.

Ark: "mercy seat", "to purify, attone", same root word as in yom kipper "day of attonement", connected with blood in Mosaic ritual.
Yeshua/Jesus: Yeshua/Jesus died for us, symbolised by Abel's sacrifice, "I require mercy not sacrifice", covers/cleanses our sin.
Ron Wyatt claimed that he found that Yeshua/Jesus blood had dripped on the Ark's mercy seat?
The Ark has also been corresponded with the Holy Grail, and there is also a traditional theory that drops of Yeshua/Jesus blood were caught in the grail. Ron Wyatt claimed to have found the Ark itself, but there has never been any confirmation. He claimed to have found many things. I believe what he really found was a way to bilk a lot of gullible people out of a lot of money. You did well to place a question mark after that statement.

Ark: 2 cherubim on top ("Michael & Lucifer"? 2 cherubim guarding in Eden?)
Yeshua/Jesus: hermaphrodite/androgyne? 2 comings/messiahs? king & priest? Alpha & Omega? full of grace & truth? father & spirit? son & holy spirit? Yeshua/Jesus & John? 2 witnesses Moses & Elijah? Israel & Church? Yeshua/Jesus & Lucifer rivals in some sources? 2 theives/crosses on either side (like the baker and cupbearer in Joseph story)? While God may have characteristics of both male and female, and many believe Adam to have originally been androgynous, we are specifically told Yeshua came to us as a man. And while Yeshua and ha’satan may be rivals in a sense, this in no way implies equality. And I don't think ha'satan would be represented on הַכַּפֹּֽרֶת‎ ha-kappōreṯ, the Mercy Seat. 

Ark: The English word ark also used for Noah's Ark. Wyatt claimed to have found both of the 2 arks.
Yeshua/Jesus: Noah's Flood & Ark is a type of baptism and dying with Christ.
He is in us (like Ark in temple) & we are in him (like Noah's Ark).
Yeshua/Jesus in boat in storm in sea/lake of Galilee. Wyatt was a liar. The probable location of Noah's Ark was found by a team of biblical archaeologists. The site Wyatt supported was determined to be a natural formation. He couldn’t tell a rock from an artifact!

* Compare/contrast: In Islam the Kaaba stone/rock in the house at Mecca is a bethel "house of God" of Allah/Allat. Allah, while meaning god or God in Arabic, in Islam specifically means the Muslim god, which by definition is a demon. It should not be equated with the Hebrew God we serve.

Hope that was of some help. Dan C

edit: cleaned up some typos, mostly deleted letters. Not sure if my keyboard or my brain is skipping, but sure can make it hard to read!

[mosheli]

Nov 21, 2020 3:37:23 GMT -8 alon said:

Nov 21, 2020 1:09:16 GMT -8 mosheli said:

Ark: the ark (and/or the grail) is identified by some with Mary who was called "Ark" in some sources. The ark "contained a hexagram representing the sexual union of God and Goddess". The golden ark in holy of holies "symbolised the localised presence of God on earth".
Yeshua/Jesus: conceived by the holy spirit in virgin Mary. Emmanuel "God with us". The "only begotten" "son of (the most high) God".
"No one has see God but the son". "He who has seen me has seen the Father". * Where is it written the Ark contains a hexagram? I don’t recall that detail. Regardless, the mythology of the “eternal goddess” is eastern, Tantric in origin. And according to this myth the goddess created God. It is a satanic perversion of the triadic hexagram (Magen Dovid/Star of David). Therefore it would fly in the face of everything Messianics, Christians, and Jews believe. And I know some ancient (so called) sages in Judaism believed in this. But you can find all kinds of beliefs in ancient Judaism. Just read the Zohar, it gets even wilder than that.

So now I have to ask, is this what you meant? Do you believe in this?


Ark: The English word ark also used for Noah's Ark. Wyatt claimed to have found both of the 2 arks.
Yeshua/Jesus: Noah's Flood & Ark is a type of baptism and dying with Christ.
He is in us (like Ark in temple) & we are in him (like Noah's Ark).
Yeshua/Jesus in boat in storm in sea/lake of Galilee. Wyatt was a liar. The probable location of Noah's Ark was found by a team of biblical archaeologists. The site Wyatt supported was determined to be a natural formation. He couldn’t tell a rock from an artifact!

Thanks Alon some good corrrections and comments as usual.

No I don't believe the goddess stuff and didn't mean that. I just meant son of god and virgin Mary, plus Jesus as considered as a hermaphrodite/androgyne (though I agree he was a man)?
I'm not sure what my source for that was but I have done a web/net search and found some results. They do seem to be pagan type sites.
One result says "Rabbinical tradition said the ark contained a hexagram representing the sexual union of God and Goddess (ref Woman's Encylcopedia of Myths and Secrets)" so it might have been a rabbinc tradition.

Can you pm me info to finding our about the location found by biblical archaeologists? I just need some detail(s) to be able to search it.