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Post by mystic on Apr 4, 2020 5:20:31 GMT -8
So I've been at this for a year or so now and it isn't getting any easier to be honest. It's extremely difficult to just lie around doing nothing all day long. There's just so much studying and praying I can do in one day. At different times during the day I put daystar tv on just to have a distraction while keeping it 'religious' in some way but I find I spend most of the day fighting against my natural tendencies to do what truly relaxes me, I think that is my main issue with Saturdays now.
Relaxation for me [at home] would be to listen to some of my fav music in the evening for an hour or two while having a couple beer and watch some movies to pass the time. With music I have to wonder if every song is line with the Sabbath day so seems I spend time worrying about that instead of enjoying the music. With watching a movie I try to watch a faith based movie but I find myself fighting my desire to watch any movie [sports or adventure e.t.c] which is not religious but one which will truly relax me.
So that's my issues guys, fighting myself most of the day to do what truly relaxes me, I wonder if that is in line with God's will, for me to truly relax or to keep fighting what relaxes me? Anyone facing the same issue, if yes how do you handle it please?
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Post by alon on Apr 4, 2020 6:55:28 GMT -8
So I've been at this for a year or so now and it isn't getting any easier to be honest. It's extremely difficult to just lie around doing nothing all day long. There's just so much studying and praying I can do in one day. At different times during the day I put daystar tv on just to have a distraction while keeping it 'religious' in some way but I find I spend most of the day fighting against my natural tendencies to do what truly relaxes me, I think that is my main issue with Saturdays now. Relaxation for me [at home] would be to listen to some of my fav music in the evening for an hour or two while having a couple beer and watch some movies to pass the time. With music I have to wonder if every song is line with the Sabbath day so seems I spend time worrying about that instead of enjoying the music. With watching a movie I try to watch a faith based movie but I find myself fighting my desire to watch any movie [sports or adventure e.t.c] which is not religious but one which will truly relax me. So that's my issues guys, fighting myself most of the day to do what truly relaxes me, I wonder if that is in line with God's will, for me to truly relax or to keep fighting what relaxes me? Anyone facing the same issue, if yes how do you handle it please?
Try structuring it. Watch a Messianic service online. Do some study, but when you reach burnout, stop. Listen to Messianic music. Prayer time and meditation on the Word. But when you've about done all the "religion" you can, listen to secular music or watch a movie. Like you, I try to filter these to at least not contain questionable lyrics or material. That can be difficult these days however. So if something slips by don't tear yourself up over it. Just pray forgiveness and move on. And there is nothing wrong with sleeping in and/or taking a nap on Shabbat. Rest.
I have medical conditions which mess with my sleep, and the meds fog my already fogged brain. So I have extra issues on Shabbat. I'm really too tired to study much today. But I'll at least get the next parashah loaded up, ready to start organizing and writing. I don't study or write up anything important like this because I miss too much. Also, when this tired too much bad doctrine can slip by. But HaShem is meciful. LOL, when I'm like this it will take me 3-5 times as long to just get it loaded up and ready to start!
Keep trying, but lighten up on yourself. Don't look at the ALmigty as an angry figure ready to hurl lightning bolts at you. He IS merciful. He'll forgive when we mess it up. And He understands our struggles.
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Post by mystic on Apr 4, 2020 7:43:53 GMT -8
Keep trying, but lighten up on yourself. Don't look at the ALmigty as an angry figure ready to hurl lightning bolts at you. He IS merciful. He'll forgive when we mess it up. And He understands our struggles.
Dan C That Dan is me in a nutshell! EVERY SINGLE THING I do and every thought I have is about thinking if it is right or wrong and seems I spend a lot of my day repenting for some wrong or bad thought which enters my mind and this is an every day thing and I so weary and tired of this. With my ADD mind, some days when I am awake at around 3 or 4am just lying on my bed looking at the ceiling waiting impatiently for daybreak, I will have gone through a million thoughts in my mind as each thought only lasts a split second before it immediately switches to another and so on. By the time I wake up I am already stressed. It seems the only thing which works is for me to be busy with my work, then I don't have to worry about bad or negative thoughts when I am idle. That is why to be doing nothing on Sabbath is very difficult for me. Whether anyone believes this or not, keeping busy is when I am most mentally relaxed! So my issue is again, does God want me to keep the Sabbath doing only Holy things or does he want me to relax and rest with what works FOR ME? That is my every Sabbath day struggle. |
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Post by alon on Apr 4, 2020 17:00:32 GMT -8
Keep trying, but lighten up on yourself. Don't look at the ALmigty as an angry figure ready to hurl lightning bolts at you. He IS merciful. He'll forgive when we mess it up. And He understands our struggles.
Dan C That Dan is me in a nutshell! EVERY SINGLE THING I do and every thought I have is about thinking if it is right or wrong and seems I spend a lot of my day repenting for some wrong or bad thought which enters my mind and this is an every day thing and I so weary and tired of this. With my ADD mind, some days when I am awake at around 3 or 4am just lying on my bed looking at the ceiling waiting impatiently for daybreak, I will have gone through a million thoughts in my mind as each thought only lasts a split second before it immediately switches to another and so on. By the time I wake up I am already stressed. It seems the only thing which works is for me to be busy with my work, then I don't have to worry about bad or negative thoughts when I am idle. That is why to be doing nothing on Sabbath is very difficult for me. Whether anyone believes this or not, keeping busy is when I am most mentally relaxed! So my issue is again, does God want me to keep the Sabbath doing only Holy things or does he want me to relax and rest with what works FOR ME? That is my every Sabbath day struggle.
Things pop into our heads all the time. Just apologize and move on. When there is a problem is when we dwell on those thoughts. There is still forgiveness if we repent, but that is still a more serious breach of the trust we have with HaShem. So repent and move on. Guilt is ha'satan's greatest tool, and he knows how to use it wel! Don't let him.
I too find it hard at times to not work, just desire to get things done. I find somewhat of an outlet for that in study. You can also help set the table, serve the food (just don't cook it), and clean up afterwards. But mostly just learn to relax.
Dan C
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Post by mystic on Apr 18, 2020 6:06:27 GMT -8
Dan, I keep hearing that the Sabbath was "given" to Adam and Eve but I am not seeing anything in Genesis 2-3 which says this so how was it given or does this mean people think it was "implied" please?
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Post by alon on Apr 18, 2020 7:44:22 GMT -8
Dan, I keep hearing that the Sabbath was "given" to Adam and Eve but I am not seeing anything in Genesis 2-3 which says this so how was it given or does this mean people think it was "implied" please?
That is one clue that the Shabbat was given to Adam and Chavah. Aother is:Exodus 20:8 (ESV) “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
We are told to remember, implying something done previously. So when was the Sabbath established?Genesis 2:2-3 (ESV) And on the seventh day God finished his work that he had done, and he rested on the seventh day from all his work that he had done. So God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it God rested from all his work that he had done in creation.
HaShem blessed the Sabbath and made it holy, set apart. If God set the day apart, then it would stand to reason that from that point on all men are supposed to observe it! That would include the newly mented first couple.
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